Appleton v Dickov

[roverssam1879]

I must start by saying that i have only the upmost respect for the decisions made by JR and the club in the past when it comes to managers. I only saw positives about the choices they made before but sadly im not at all confident either Appleton or Dickov are any good for the club.

so unless JR pulls the magic wand out again and blindsides us with an unexpected appointment im affraid im dreading the 4pm announcemnet.

I really dont want dickov but still see appleton as the best of a very bad bunch 

Sorry for the negativity but im finding it somewhat hard to be excited at the thought of either of those two at the helm.

[DRFCBRADFORD]

same here

[Belle-Vue-Ghost]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

[Red wizard]

Appleton could do very well here imo. He is very highly rated in the game and with the set up we now have here I think he could prove a very good fit. Lets not forget all the clubs he's been at where in turmoil bar wba.

[rtid88]

I do agree, Rosler or Jackett for me would have been exciting appointments, and I can't believe that either would be totally out of our price range.

However having read more about Appleton over the last few days I do feel that he could be quite a promising appointment, Roy Hodgson who I do think is a good manager thinks highly of him and I think he has been very unfortunate with this previous managerial experiences and it has already been said that he will have a serious point to prove, far more excited at the prospect of Appleton then Dickov that is for sure!!

[MartinB]

Rosler, was quick to lay the blame on club captain not taking the penalty against us...not exactly great leadership[ qualities on display there. I'd say both Appleton & Dickov are due a good chairman....that's the reason they applied for our managers job.

[roverssam1879]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

Rosler, Tisdale, Boothroyd, Parkinson and Robinson to name but a few.

[roverssam1879]

Appleton could do very well here imo. He is very highly rated in the game and with the set up we now have here I think he could prove a very good fit. Lets not forget all the clubs he's been at where in turmoil bar wba.

Fair point made there, maybe he need to settle and feel part of the furniture at a club to flurish.

[DearneValleyRover]

You can only appoint people who are interested in the job. Name all the managers you like it doesn't mean any were interested. The process used to get our new man was rigorous to say the least and the best man out of those who applied will have got the job, if it is Appleton then you can say based on last season that he has a lot to prove and that should be more than enough motivation to make him succeed which only benefits us.

Who ever it is let's welcome them to the fold get behind them and the board for going through the process of getting the best person for the job, it may not be who you would have personally chosen and I count myself in this but I trust those who know more than I that this is the best way forward. Here's to a very successful Championship campaign with the new man in charge.

    


 

[Belle-Vue-Ghost]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

Rosler, Tisdale, Boothroyd, Parkinson and Robinson to name but a few.

I dont understand what any of that list could do that Appleton/Dickov couldnt though.  Remember too, a big factor will be the contacts that Appleton/Dickov would have. 

I reckon Appleton would do a good job.  Especially given the right support from the chairman, same goes for Dickov

[Sheepskin Stu]

You can only appoint people who are interested in the job.

This is the key point. Rovers in the Championship isn't an attractive proposition. Low budget, low crowds, a season of struggle.

[Wild Rover]

Paul Dikov or Michael Appleton.......Lets see.... PD did not a lot at Oldham....MA did not a lot at Pompey,or Blackpool, or Blackburn. So not a lot between them there. PD never managed in Championship, MA has, though i agree with pretty poor results, so at least MA has the edge there.
Connections wise, MA must lead the way, he is highly thought of as a coach, coached at the highest level.
Not sure PD had a coaching role prior to Oldham.
So, if the choice is as straight forward as between the two, then i guess MA is the one.
So, at 4pm when the new manager is revealed as Phil Neville, with all his coaching and managerial expertise ( he probably shades the "Contacts" requirement of the board), will i be happy, Yes, of course i will. Its not that i trust Ryan, or anyone else in power at DRFC, just seems logical to me that the best candidate will be rolled out.

I wait with baited breath,

[roverssam1879]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

Rosler, Tisdale, Boothroyd, Parkinson and Robinson to name but a few.

I dont understand what any of that list could do that Appleton/Dickov couldnt though.  Remember too, a big factor will be the contacts that Appleton/Dickov would have. 

I reckon Appleton would do a good job.  Especially given the right support from the chairman, same goes for Dickov

TISDALE took Exeter to wembley in the first season as manager losing in the final but the year after won promotion to league 2 and has a decent record there at exeter.

BOOTHROYD - got Watford into the premier league at the first time of asking and got them back in the championship playoffs after not keeping them in the prem the year after.

Didnt do much at Colchester or Coventry but then he did go get northampton to the final. Took Charlton to the playoffs.


PARKINSON - got colchester promoted to the chapionship, just got Bradford promoted and to the league cup final.ROBINSON - took MK Dons to the play offs twice


Thats a fair few wembly visits and promotions and three of them are of appleton and dickovs age....

[The L J Monk]

As a coach, Appleton has had a very good upbringing. Worked under Hodgson and alongside Dan Ashworth.

Boothroyd is awful. Keith Burkinshaw got Watford up. As soon as he left Boothroyd hadn't a clue. His brand of football might work in League Two, but you need more than "get it up to the big man" to compete in the Championship.

[DearneValleyRover]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

Rosler, Tisdale, Boothroyd, Parkinson and Robinson to name but a few.

I dont understand what any of that list could do that Appleton/Dickov couldnt though.  Remember too, a big factor will be the contacts that Appleton/Dickov would have. 

I reckon Appleton would do a good job.  Especially given the right support from the chairman, same goes for Dickov

TISDALE took Exeter to wembley in the first season as manager losing in the final but the year after won promotion to league 2 and has a decent record there at exeter.

BOOTHROYD - got Watford into the premier league at the first time of asking and got them back in the championship playoffs after not keeping them in the prem the year after.

Didnt do much at Colchester or Coventry but then he did go get northampton to the final. Took Charlton to the playoffs.


PARKINSON - got colchester promoted to the chapionship, just got Bradford promoted and to the league cup final.ROBINSON - took MK Dons to the play offs twice


Thats a fair few wembly visits and promotions and three of them are of appleton and dickovs age....

Did any of them apply for the job? Or showed interest if approached? As stated you cannot appoint people who don't want the job.

[bobjimwilly]

Appleton is supposed to be good friends with Ferguson too...

[roverssam1879]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

Rosler, Tisdale, Boothroyd, Parkinson and Robinson to name but a few.

I dont understand what any of that list could do that Appleton/Dickov couldnt though.  Remember too, a big factor will be the contacts that Appleton/Dickov would have. 

I reckon Appleton would do a good job.  Especially given the right support from the chairman, same goes for Dickov

TISDALE took Exeter to wembley in the first season as manager losing in the final but the year after won promotion to league 2 and has a decent record there at exeter.

BOOTHROYD - got Watford into the premier league at the first time of asking and got them back in the championship playoffs after not keeping them in the prem the year after.

Didnt do much at Colchester or Coventry but then he did go get northampton to the final. Took Charlton to the playoffs.


PARKINSON - got colchester promoted to the chapionship, just got Bradford promoted and to the league cup final.ROBINSON - took MK Dons to the play offs twice


Thats a fair few wembly visits and promotions and three of them are of appleton and dickovs age....

Did any of them apply for the job? Or showed interest if approached? As stated you cannot appoint people who don't want the job.

Well unless you know something the most of us don’t, then the question is irrelevant and we cannot assume that they didn’t want the job, just like we can only assume they were not contacted.

[DearneValleyRover]

Appleton is supposed to be good friends with Ferguson too...

Who is good mates with Flynn, next sponsor...................................











Name your Malt here.......?

[DearneValleyRover]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

Rosler, Tisdale, Boothroyd, Parkinson and Robinson to name but a few.

I dont understand what any of that list could do that Appleton/Dickov couldnt though.  Remember too, a big factor will be the contacts that Appleton/Dickov would have. 

I reckon Appleton would do a good job.  Especially given the right support from the chairman, same goes for Dickov

TISDALE took Exeter to wembley in the first season as manager losing in the final but the year after won promotion to league 2 and has a decent record there at exeter.

BOOTHROYD - got Watford into the premier league at the first time of asking and got them back in the championship playoffs after not keeping them in the prem the year after.

Didnt do much at Colchester or Coventry but then he did go get northampton to the final. Took Charlton to the playoffs.


PARKINSON - got colchester promoted to the chapionship, just got Bradford promoted and to the league cup final.ROBINSON - took MK Dons to the play offs twice


Thats a fair few wembly visits and promotions and three of them are of appleton and dickovs age....

Did any of them apply for the job? Or showed interest if approached? As stated you cannot appoint people who don't want the job.

Well unless you know something the most of us don’t, then the question is irrelevant and we cannot assume that they didn’t want the job, just like we can only assume they were not contacted.

It isn't a case of whether I know something or not, naming random managers based on your personal opinion doesn't mean they are better than the person who gets the job based on people who are far more qualified in making it. As stated neither Appleton or Dickov would have been my choice b ut I will get behind who ever gets it.

[roverssam1879]

I'm sorry but who would excite you all exactly?

Ferguson, Manchini, Mourhinio, Di Matteo??

Rosler, Tisdale, Boothroyd, Parkinson and Robinson to name but a few.

I dont understand what any of that list could do that Appleton/Dickov couldnt though.  Remember too, a big factor will be the contacts that Appleton/Dickov would have. 

I reckon Appleton would do a good job.  Especially given the right support from the chairman, same goes for Dickov

TISDALE took Exeter to wembley in the first season as manager losing in the final but the year after won promotion to league 2 and has a decent record there at exeter.

BOOTHROYD - got Watford into the premier league at the first time of asking and got them back in the championship playoffs after not keeping them in the prem the year after.

Didnt do much at Colchester or Coventry but then he did go get northampton to the final. Took Charlton to the playoffs.


PARKINSON - got colchester promoted to the chapionship, just got Bradford promoted and to the league cup final.ROBINSON - took MK Dons to the play offs twice


Thats a fair few wembly visits and promotions and three of them are of appleton and dickovs age....

Did any of them apply for the job? Or showed interest if approached? As stated you cannot appoint people who don't want the job.

Well unless you know something the most of us don’t, then the question is irrelevant and we cannot assume that they didn’t want the job, just like we can only assume they were not contacted.

It isn't a case of whether I know something or not, naming random managers based on your personal opinion doesn't mean they are better than the person who gets the job based on people who are far more qualified in making it. As stated neither Appleton or Dickov would have been my choice b ut I will get behind who ever gets it.

Surely stating my personal opinion is no different than you stating what seems to be more a factual comment than an opiniative one... ''you cannot appoint people who dont want the job''

without us knowing who has and who hasnt we can never actually give opinion as to who was the right man.

so me naming ''randon managers'' is no different. therfore i dont feel MA or PD are right and instead the other 78 applicants may have been more appealing to the fans.

to end this confusion and as a result of the thread and the replies i feel that out of the two id sooner see MA but please oh please JR dont let it be Dickov.

Again... i would indeed for him to appoint someone none of us would have thought of!

[Belle-Vue-Ghost]

I just hope its Jose Mourinho or I feel theres going to be hell on this board

[Herman Hessian]

good thing is that they both look like right hard bas**rds

JR should have them both in for a tear-up - sort it out man to man

also, having advocated appleton from the off, i'd obviously be more than happy to see him installed - all the better if he can get darren moore in as part of the deal; we'd also then have the meanest-looking bench crew in the championship, and would be handily placed if it all kicked off at elland road again....

[ferribyrover]

Whichever young upcoming manager we choose he will surely need and get a highly experienced no.2. Add to that the input of Flynn, Jones etc and we will have probably our strongest management set up ever?

[silent majority]

roverssam,

None of your preferred candidates applied or wanted the job. So your list of achievements by them is a complete irrelevance.

[roverssam1879]

roverssam,

None of your preferred candidates applied or wanted the job. So your list of achievements by them is a complete irrelevance.

Thats great to find out. Thanks for that.

the list was given upon questioning why i thought they were better than MA or PD.

[silent majority]

Maybe somebody from DRFC will say who did apply and who they interviewed but good business practice says they won't reveal all. What I can say is there were some very good people on that list, some excellent names and experience mixed in, but  they fell by the wayside for not being good enough for DRFC and for a club in our position we need someone with the correct set of attributes. I do believe the process we followed was very effective in weeding out the ones who were not suitable.

[roverssam1879]

No I’m sure they won’t due to professionalism which is perfectly understandable. thanks again for sharing these facts. it’s a shame you couldn’t let us know more as to who has applied. anyhow, from what you and others have said, i do hope that out of the two MA gets the post.