Retained List..

[Dare to dream!]

I think Statton might just be assuming Tamas and Miete are not being offered deals, no where does it say they aren't being offered deals, we can only release details of players contracted to us up to 30th June, Tams and Miete are already free agents, we may well be talking to them now

If that were the case surely they would have been on the list with Cotts and Copps?

[IDM]

I think Statton might just be assuming Tamas and Miete are not being offered deals, no where does it say they aren't being offered deals, we can only release details of players contracted to us up to 30th June, Tams and Miete are already free agents, we may well be talking to them now

If that were the case surely they would have been on the list with Cotts and Copps?

No, Cotts and Copps and the rest of the 8 will have contracts due to expire this summer.  Meite's and Tamas's contracts will have already expired, hence the difference in current status.

[walter the red]

Does anyone believe that ,as contracted players staying with Rovers in the new season in League 1 ,that such as -Kyle Bennett ,Mark De Val and Luke McCollough will get a fair crack of the whip from PD ?

[Red wizard]

Luke Will and should imo.

[bpoolrover]

They might have clauses but does not mean anyone will buy them

[PDX_Rover]

The Star understands "some of the contracted players have activated a release clause in their contract." Speculation to sell papers perhaps?  And if it is true, frankly I would not want players here who would jump ship like that.

[IDM]

I don't have a big issue with release clauses.  It can work both ways, if we need to reduce the wage bill.  I would still rather keep Wellens, Quinn etc but I don't have a real issue if they go - it would be disappointing but understandable.

[ravenrover]

Could it be that because DRFC knew the wages/demands when they signed Tamas and Meite, that they knew they couldn't offer them similar terms this term? hence no contract offer, can't see them playing for £2k a week can you?

[Chris Black come back]

Could it be that because DRFC knew the wages/demands when they signed Tamas and Meite, that they knew they couldn't offer them similar terms this term? hence no contract offer, can't see them playing for £2k a week can you?

Sounds about right to me. Tamas especially and perhaps also Meite as well will be looking for a proper contract length and decent money, as well as not having lumps kicked out of them in League One.

[The Red Baron]

I don't have a big issue with release clauses.  It can work both ways, if we need to reduce the wage bill.  I would still rather keep Wellens, Quinn etc but I don't have a real issue if they go - it would be disappointing but understandable.

My only issue is when they can exercise them. We don't want to find that on the eve of the season that three or four players suddenly accept offers from other clubs and we're left fielding a scratch side in the opening game.

If there's a cut-off of the end of June, when the out-of-contract players contracts will also expire, then at least we'll know where we are before the season starts.

[since-1969]

I hope they get the situation sorted quickly as season tickets could be dependant on a settled preseason.

[IDM]

I don't have a big issue with release clauses.  It can work both ways, if we need to reduce the wage bill.  I would still rather keep Wellens, Quinn etc but I don't have a real issue if they go - it would be disappointing but understandable.

My only issue is when they can exercise them. We don't want to find that on the eve of the season that three or four players suddenly accept offers from other clubs and we're left fielding a scratch side in the opening game.

If there's a cut-off of the end of June, when the out-of-contract players contracts will also expire, then at least we'll know where we are before the season starts.

No idea about cut offs, at worse it will be right up to the end of the transfer window.

[steve@dcfd]

I don't have a big issue with release clauses.  It can work both ways, if we need to reduce the wage bill.  I would still rather keep Wellens, Quinn etc but I don't have a real issue if they go - it would be disappointing but understandable.

If said players went is it because of their clauses or because they believe staying with Dickov will mean bouncing straight back is a none starter. It will be interesting how many non-contracted players and the release clause players will sign for Mr Dickov. His track record in league 1 is poor and the way his tactics in the last seven games especially got us relegated does not bode well.

[graingrover]

Why on earth would players NOT try to use a release clause and try to get a better deal elsewhere. You can't expect any particular loyalty to a club ....even  from the local born lads . Fans are fickle and so why not players. Morever all have agents .

[DonnyBazR0ver]

No brainer for players to have release clauses. Whilst players are free agents or free to leave, pre-season will always see late departures and arrivals. Last season all the talk was about whether Wellens would sign, right up to last minute. And there was the Mvoto and Spurr affairs.

[The Red Baron]

I don't have a big issue with release clauses.  It can work both ways, if we need to reduce the wage bill.  I would still rather keep Wellens, Quinn etc but I don't have a real issue if they go - it would be disappointing but understandable.

If said players went is it because of their clauses or because they believe staying with Dickov will mean bouncing straight back is a none starter. It will be interesting how many non-contracted players and the release clause players will sign for Mr Dickov. His track record in league 1 is poor and the way his tactics in the last seven games especially got us relegated does not bode well.

If they go I doubt it will be to do with the manager's abilities. More likely because they are offered more money and/or a higher level of football.

[steve@dcfd]

I don't have a big issue with release clauses.  It can work both ways, if we need to reduce the wage bill.  I would still rather keep Wellens, Quinn etc but I don't have a real issue if they go - it would be disappointing but understandable.

If said players went is it because of their clauses or because they believe staying with Dickov will mean bouncing straight back is a none starter. It will be interesting how many non-contracted players and the release clause players will sign for Mr Dickov. His track record in league 1 is poor and the way his tactics in the last seven games especially got us relegated does not bode well.

If they go I doubt it will be to do with the manager's abilities. More likely because they are offered more money and/or a higher level of football.

Money and Higher level of football will attract the players I agree, but we would have still been at that level if the manager had used all the abilities of the players we had available in the last seven games.
So can those players trust he as the ability to bounce straight back.
The board believe he can, yet they gave him all the resources they could afford and slightly more and he failed to deliver.
I have my doubts on him and also worried that our best players will leave the club and we will be back to rebuilding a starting eleven not just a squad.

[graingrover]

I think PD did remakably well to get the players in he did last season and don't doubt he will get others to replace Johnstone , Tamas, Meite ..

[Alan Southstand]

I don't think anyone is questioning the managers ability at getting the right players, rather his ability to fit them into a system that works and, further more, is flexible enough to change to the circumstances or game scenarios. I, personally, have no doubts about his lack of ability in this area. The Club have chosen to stick by him, so that's that, as ever we will have to wait and see what transpires.

On another note, as discussed above, if there are so many players who are contracted, yet are activating release clauses.....what the hell is the manager playing at when claiming he is 'happy with the core of players he has for the start'? The mind boggles.

[steve@dcfd]

I think PD did remakably well to get the players in he did last season and don't doubt he will get others to replace Johnstone , Tamas, Meite ..

Yes he did as I said above he was given the resources to do that. Yet having said he was happy where we were and it was in our hands, he failed. I hope he is happy with the core he will have, but with eight players out of contract and rumoured eight players with release clauses he will have to show all his ability to resign, hold on to and obtain players. If he does then he will have to show he CAN get the best out of them to bounce straight back.

[wilts rover]

I think PD did remakably well to get the players in he did last season and don't doubt he will get others to replace Johnstone , Tamas, Meite ..

Yes he did as I said above he was given the resources to do that. Yet having said he was happy where we were and it was in our hands, he failed. I hope he is happy with the core he will have, but with eight players out of contract and rumoured eight players with release clauses he will have to show all his ability to resign, hold on to and obtain players. If he does then he will have to show he CAN get the best out of them to bounce straight back.

Isn't that the Chief Exectutives' job? If it isn't, what is the Chief Exectutive's job?

We lost the last seven games when the only player we had who could pass a ball straight over 5 yards was injured. Get over it. The run we had in March demonstrated to me that Dickov knows a good player and how to gell a team together - and if the players who took us down dont want to take us back up, away with 'em.

[Alan Southstand]

But its the manager who picks the team Wilts, and has the responsibility of getting them organised. Anyway, all water under the bridge now and like I've said decisions have been made, so we shall have to see what happens. I'll not be holding my breath for next season, though.

[Rios]

I'm not totally convinced Dickov has the tactical nouse to take us forward, but player recruitment is one area he has hugely impressed me.  When you consider the loan signings and the frees that he's brought in compared to some of the squad filling dross that SOD brought in I've every confidence that he'll replace any that are lured away by money.  League one is a division he knows well and as he showed in his time with Oldham he knows how to shop around on a (much more) limited budget.

[DRNaith]

But its the manager who picks the team Wilts, and has the responsibility of getting them organised. Anyway, all water under the bridge now and like I've said decisions have been made, so we shall have to see what happens. I'll not be holding my breath for next season, though.

How many managers last the length of a player's contract these days?

[les@donr]

According to the Star there are several clubs including Hull and Wolves looking to make a bid for Husband, who doesn't have a get out clause in his contract.