Give Jones a go

[Dutch Uncle]

Wignall or Cusack?

Not that it makes much difference 

[BobG]

Initially I was actually thinking of Arm Raise Cusack, Brian. But when I remembered Wiggy I thought, well, they both fit the bill.....

Bob

[Colemans Left Hook]

Initially I was actually thinking of Arm Raise Cusack, Brian. But when I remembered Wiggy I thought, well, they both fit the bill.....

Bob

did the police ever catch the bloke who years ago stole Cusacks suit ??   bless him

[The Red Baron]

The football served up under both was poor, but I did have some sympathy for Cusack because he had no money to work with. Also if he had anyone decent he had to sell them.

On the other hand, Wignall was allowed to sign "marquee" players  (by Conference standards, anyway) like Alford and Jackson. And then totally fail to play to their strengths.

In many ways Dickov reminds me of Wignall. They ended up replacing him with an ex-player who was running the reserve team, of course. And he didn't do too badly, did he?

[southwestexile]

What does Horton do - move him out of way for Jones

I heard that Horton hears a Who

[roversdude]

What does Horton do - move him out of way for Jones

I heard that Horton hears a Who

What he's a pinball wizard

[idler]

The football served up under both was poor, but I did have some sympathy for Cusack because he had no money to work with. Also if he had anyone decent he had to sell them.

On the other hand, Wignall was allowed to sign "marquee" players  (by Conference standards, anyway) like Alford and Jackson. And then totally fail to play to their strengths.

In many ways Dickov reminds me of Wignall. They ended up replacing him with an ex-player who was running the reserve team, of course. And he didn't do too badly, did he?

Weren't both players bought by JR though purely on their scoring record without looking at eithers off field lifestyle?
I'm not sure that they would have passed scrutiny with some of our later managers especially SOD.

[roversdude]

Penneys team was not far from the team he inherited from Wignall
Although the football was dire it was almost there

[The Red Baron]

Penneys team was not far from the team he inherited from Wignall
Although the football was dire it was almost there

I think that's a fair point. Whereas Wignall couldn't get those players to perform, Penney seemed to allow them to express themselves.

The current players have to take responsibility for their performances, of course, but I can't help thinking another manager might be able to get more out of them.

[The Red Baron]

The football served up under both was poor, but I did have some sympathy for Cusack because he had no money to work with. Also if he had anyone decent he had to sell them.

On the other hand, Wignall was allowed to sign "marquee" players  (by Conference standards, anyway) like Alford and Jackson. And then totally fail to play to their strengths.

In many ways Dickov reminds me of Wignall. They ended up replacing him with an ex-player who was running the reserve team, of course. And he didn't do too badly, did he?

Weren't both players bought by JR though purely on their scoring record without looking at eithers off field lifestyle?
I'm not sure that they would have passed scrutiny with some of our later managers especially SOD.

It's true that SO'D would have looked at the bigger picture before signing them. However for me the problem with both was the way we played them. Alford needed to be running onto crosses, but Wignall had him playing as a target man, often with his back to goal. Jackson was purely a penalty box predator, but we didn't structure the team to accommodate him.

Jackson didn't fit into Penney's way of playing strikers either, but of course Penney didn't sign him.

[DonnyOsmond]

The football served up under both was poor, but I did have some sympathy for Cusack because he had no money to work with. Also if he had anyone decent he had to sell them.

On the other hand, Wignall was allowed to sign "marquee" players  (by Conference standards, anyway) like Alford and Jackson. And then totally fail to play to their strengths.

In many ways Dickov reminds me of Wignall. They ended up replacing him with an ex-player who was running the reserve team, of course. And he didn't do too badly, did he?

Weren't both players bought by JR though purely on their scoring record without looking at eithers off field lifestyle?
I'm not sure that they would have passed scrutiny with some of our later managers especially SOD.

It's true that SO'D would have looked at the bigger picture before signing them. However for me the problem with both was the way we played them. Alford needed to be running onto crosses, but Wignall had him playing as a target man, often with his back to goal. Jackson was purely a penalty box predator, but we didn't structure the team to accommodate him.

Jackson didn't fit into Penney's way of playing strikers either, but of course Penney didn't sign him.

You can do the same with Theo. Played right he'd be our top scorer.

[Askern_reds]

why give Jones ago just because it would be a cheap option why does everything at our club have to be done on a shoestring? You don't have to spend money like a fool because there's some good footballers out there at the end of every season been released by some top clubs yet we never seem to go down that avenue the same mentions on here all the time about managers and all the old names keep popping up penny cusack for example why not go with a man who's doing well at a club simular to ours only one name that comes to mind if we sack dickon and that's alexander from fleetwood

[acko]

who or whatever happens its better done sooner rather than later,as it stands dickov will be deciding who goes and who stays apart from contracted players,the preseason signings will be up to him,if we then decide he goes could be left with players a new man don't want and nothing left for the players he does want,then we will be blaming pre seasons debacle again.if he stays they should back him in the media and also state the requirements of the position,after all hes probably achieved what the board wanted mid table nothing spent good job done.personally I feel the board see us as a mid table league 1 side nothing more.any loan signings should be kept to a minimum and its quality we should look for not so much a squad member but someone better than we have in the team.

[PDX_Rover]

I was agreeing with you Acko up until the bit about mid-table being job done for the board. No board has those aims. The aim is to finish as high as possible. Arguably the players at the club are a top six side. But the league table doesn't lie. So the disparity is down to the manager.

[acko]

pre season meeting with Baldwin said stableisation this season,promised we wouldn't be relegated

[DonnyOsmond]

pre season meeting with Baldwin said stableisation this season,promised we wouldn't be relegated

Source?

[acko]

supporters clubs meetings

[nortikorner]

the board will wait until end of seasons  and another  pre seasons in the dark

[Dare to dream!]

Malky Mckay just been sacked

[The Red Baron]

He wasn't given long, although he is a case in point for those who argue Dickov needs more time.

[wilts rover]

Never having won at home since he took over it was probably long enough for their board. Now wait for people proposing he comes to Rovers.

[The Red Baron]

Not me. He still has that FA investigation hanging over him. And we don't want a manager who can't win at home, do we?

[Copps is Magic]

Is now the time to give Jones a go? It seems perfect. Put him in care-taker charge and see how he does untill the end of the season. If it doesn't work out we can look for a permanent replacement in the summer.

Either that or the board will look to let Dickov's contract run out for the cheaper option.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Is now the time to give Jones a go? It seems perfect. Put him in care-taker charge and see how he does untill the end of the season. If it doesn't work out we can look for a permanent replacement in the summer.

Either that or the board will look to let Dickov's contract run out for the cheaper option.

That's like eating the salt coz you don't like the chips. Jones is not a manager, nor even proved as a number 2.

[Copps is Magic]

Every manager starts off not as a manager. They have to start somewhere.

Gary Monk, Pep Guardiola, Dougie freedman (virtually) - it's been done before.

[Dare to dream!]

Im not sure if im on this Jones bandwagon but one thing he would do is unite the fans and we'd get behind him. Said it before also because of his inexperience a trial period would be beneficial, thats now till the end of the season.

[Copps is Magic]

It's a strategic decision. It makes no sense to give Dickov until the end of the season because we basically know the outcome of the season already. Why not be pro-active!

[Al4475]

Acko - baldwin didn't state stabilisation as the key aim, the club were hoping to achive stability but also push the top end! He did promise we wouldn't be relegated but also said the expectations would be top 8 and above - and that the budget matched that too! He also said at at least one of the supporters clubs meetings that were incentives and rewards in pd's budget that would open up more budget if he met them!