Defence

[Yorkiered]

What I cannot figure out is why send Mackenzie to Notts County for a month to get him match fit and then bring him back to sit on the bench?

[ravenrover]

Because he's not very good?

[Yorkiered]

Because he's not very good?

So why send him out to get him match fit?

[idler]

Probably to get him off the wage bill for a month whilst he was upping his fitness levels.

[The Red Baron]

My take on Mackenzie is that we were happy for him to stay at Notts County for the duration. Then we picked up a bunch of injuries, especially in defence, so he was recalled. Unlike Main he didn't have an "I can stay here if I want" clause in his deal.

Noticeable that since he's been back he's only been used as an emergency battering ram up front.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him go out again this week.

[Yorkiered]

My take on Mackenzie is that we were happy for him to stay at Notts County for the duration. Then we picked up a bunch of injuries, especially in defence, so he was recalled. Unlike Main he didn't have an "I can stay here if I want" clause in his deal.

Noticeable that since he's been back he's only been used as an emergency battering ram up front.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him go out again this week.

So we play a left back at right back (ok he played very well on Saturday) then one of our smallest players at right CB when we have a 6 foot centre back on the bench. Granted he might not be that good (Although he played really well last season for Blackpool and Bradford). I just wonder is DF picking the best options at the back?

[DearneValleyRover]

I think we have to concede that we aren't going to get another defender and given Fergies track record at previous clubs he doesn't appear to know what a good defence is.

[idler]

My take on Mackenzie is that we were happy for him to stay at Notts County for the duration. Then we picked up a bunch of injuries, especially in defence, so he was recalled. Unlike Main he didn't have an "I can stay here if I want" clause in his deal.

Noticeable that since he's been back he's only been used as an emergency battering ram up front.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him go out again this week.

So we play a left back at right back (ok he played very well on Saturday) then one of our smallest players at right CB when we have a 6 foot centre back on the bench. Granted he might not be that good (Although he played really well last season for Blackpool and Bradford). I just wonder is DF picking the best options at the back?

According to City fans he was crap for them and a liability.

[Sammy Chung was King]

If you haven't got pace at the back, the next best thing is players who win a lot of headers, then you have to protect them on the ground.
I see no point in playing Evina as a right back, if you want solidity you could play Taylor-Sinclair left back and Evina wide left, but then you haven't the crossing quality consistently.
 You could go something like the side below, and maybe play Rowe instead of Chaplow, but does that give impetus to a side also struggling to build confidence, for me you have to have a solid side, but one that has threat going forward.

                           Stuckmann

                      McKenzie     Butler

                 Alcock                        Taylor-Sinclair

                          Keegan       Chaplow

                  Stewart                              Evina

                            Williams       Tyson   

[NickDRFC]

I can't believe you wouldn't play Coppinger.

[Yorkiered]

If you haven't got pace at the back, the next best thing is players who win a lot of headers, then you have to protect them on the ground.
I see no point in playing Evina as a right back, if you want solidity you could play Taylor-Sinclair left back and Evina wide left, but then you haven't the crossing quality consistently.
 You could go something like the side below, and maybe play Rowe instead of Chaplow, but does that give impetus to a side also struggling to build confidence, for me you have to have a solid side, but one that has threat going forward.

                           Stuckmann

                      McKenzie     Butler

                 Alcock                        Taylor-Sinclair

                          Keegan       Chaplow

                  Stewart                              Evina

                            Williams       Tyson

McCullough instead of Keegan
Edina instead of Chaplow
Coppinger instead of Stewart
Rowe instead of Evina.
Mandeville instead of Williams.

[The Red Baron]

McCullough probably won't be available unless NI release him.

[Sammy Chung was King]

I can't believe you wouldn't play Coppinger.

We need him to be fit for all the games, just back from injury, i would start him on the bench. If you put him in for a full game, it's a big risk.

[drfc1951]

Rowe instead of Chaplow

[The Red Baron]

I can't believe you wouldn't play Coppinger.

We need him to be fit for all the games, just back from injury, i would start him on the bench. If you put him in for a full game, it's a big risk.

Neither of us know how he pulled up after Saturday's game, but so long as he's not struggling I would start him, but be ready to bring him off late in the game.

[BillyStubbsTears]

" as he's not struggling I would start him, but be ready to bring him off late in the game."

Steady on. I'm as grateful as the next fan for the wonderful times he's given us, but there are limits.

Edit: mind, on second thoughts, if he gets us a win...

[The Red Baron]

I deliberately avoided saying  "pull him off." But if he keeps us in League one...

[bpoolrover]

Yorkie he was awful at blackpool

[mrfrostsdad]

How many goals has tryson got so far this season

The only stat that matters is League goals. None of the cups matter now, we're out of them.
Williams 10 and Tyson about 5 maybe 6. And I think Williams got 5 or 6 of those in one month and his record has been dogshite the rest of the season

Am i right in thinking it's either seven or eight, and Williams is on about fourteen?.

[mrfrostsdad]

If you haven't got pace at the back, the next best thing is players who win a lot of headers, then you have to protect them on the ground.
I see no point in playing Evina as a right back, if you want solidity you could play Taylor-Sinclair left back and Evina wide left, but then you haven't the crossing quality consistently.
 You could go something like the side below, and maybe play Rowe instead of Chaplow, but does that give impetus to a side also struggling to build confidence, for me you have to have a solid side, but one that has threat going forward.

                           Stuckmann

                      McKenzie     Butler

                 Alcock                        Taylor-Sinclair

                          Keegan       Chaplow

                  Stewart                              Evina

                            Williams       Tyson   

Keegan and Chaplow in midfield? Do you actually want us to get relegated Sammy?

[Chris Black come back]

Keegan is like a hugely volatile and unstable chemical compound. If you mix him with the wrong elements he immediately evaporates into thin air, not to be seen for 90 minutes. Problem is that science hasn't sufficiently evolved to identify what compound he can be safely paired with for any useful length of time.

[drfchound]

If you haven't got pace at the back, the next best thing is players who win a lot of headers, then you have to protect them on the ground.
I see no point in playing Evina as a right back, if you want solidity you could play Taylor-Sinclair left back and Evina wide left, but then you haven't the crossing quality consistently.
 You could go something like the side below, and maybe play Rowe instead of Chaplow, but does that give impetus to a side also struggling to build confidence, for me you have to hamve a solid side, but one that has threat going forward.

                           Stuckmann

                      McKenzie     Butler

                 Alcock                        Taylor-Sinclair

                          Keegan       Chaplow

                  Stewart                              Evina

                            Williams       Tyson

McCullough instead of Keegan
Edina instead of Chaplow
Coppinger instead of Stewart
Rowe instead of Evina.
Mandeville instead of Williams.

Edina instead of chaplow(I assume you meant Evina) then Rowe instead of Evina.
Why not just put Rowe instead of Chaplow?

As for Mandeville instead if Williams!!!!

[Canadian Rover]

People are taking about pace at centre half...we won this league with Jones and McCombe playing centre back most weeks.

[Sammy Chung was King]

I would change the team i picked with the new signings coming for their full debut. Matthews in goal, McSheffrey left wing, Rowe central midfield alongside Keegan.
 I would put ATS in at left back before Evina, with a McKenzie/Butler centre half partnership, the rest would be the same.
I've thought it over and Coppinger we really can't afford not to start him, ATS deserves a place after the last game, McKenzie would give us an aerial presence.
 Get Rowe and Keegan in the centre of midfield, hopefully Rowe will create chances and also add some much needed energy,McSheffrey would ensure both wing are filled with players who know what's needed, he could be a very shrewd signing.

[Yorkiered]

If you haven't got pace at the back, the next best thing is players who win a lot of headers, then you have to protect them on the ground.
I see no point in playing Evina as a right back, if you want solidity you could play Taylor-Sinclair left back and Evina wide left, but then you haven't the crossing quality consistently.
 You could go something like the side below, and maybe play Rowe instead of Chaplow, but does that give impetus to a side also struggling to build confidence, for me you have to hamve a solid side, but one that has threat going forward.

                           Stuckmann

                      McKenzie     Butler

                 Alcock                        Taylor-Sinclair

                          Keegan       Chaplow

                  Stewart                              Evina

                            Williams       Tyson

McCullough instead of Keegan
Edina instead of Chaplow
Coppinger instead of Stewart
Rowe instead of Evina.
Mandeville instead of Williams.

Edina instead of chaplow(I assume you meant Evina) then Rowe instead of Evina.
Why not just put Rowe instead of Chaplow?

As for Mandeville instead if Williams!!!!

Apart from the cross for Coppingers goal on Saturday, what has he done for some time? Does he deserve to be in the starting eleven on current form?
He is only starting because we have no other options other than Mandeville.

[i_ateallthepies]

Yorkie, working from memory here, always a bit dangerous with the few cells I have left but in addition to the cross for Copps' goal, wasn't it Williams' back heel that put Tyson in for the last goal previous we scored?  and, and... some good work on the right for the cross that Chaplow scored from?  I can't remember any other goals we've scored in that time and all of them set up by Williams.

[Yorkiered]

Yorkie, working from memory here, always a bit dangerous with the few cells I have left but in addition to the cross for Copps' goal, wasn't it Williams' back heel that put Tyson in for the last goal previous we scored?  and, and... some good work on the right for the cross that Chaplow scored from?  I can't remember any other goals we've scored in that time and all of them set up by Williams.

He is in the side to score goals. Something he isn't doing at the moment.

[i_ateallthepies]

Of course he's in the side to score goals but you asked 'apart from the cross for Coppinger's goal what has he done for some time?', I gave you an example.

[Sammy Chung was King]

When you are not scoring, you put in a shift for the team, and while trying to score goals, you also look to create things for your team mates.
I have seen much poorer players than Williams lauded by our fans as something special!.
 Don't undervalue when you have a quality striker in the side. He is in double figures in a team that hasn't created half the chances he got at Swindon.
 Look at the wide range of different goals he has scored this season, look at the ability he has shown in them, and realise he is a player that if we are to do well, we need to keep!.