Olivier Giroud

[BillyStubbsTears]

That chance of his on 41 mins.

I've just seen an international striker accelerate slower than Clownshoes carrying Carl Alford and Nev Southall on his back.

[RobTheRover]

He must have had a fiver on 0-0 at 90 mins.  Its the only answer.

[The Red Baron]

He must have had a fiver on 0-0 at 90 mins.  Its the only answer.

The French ref has buggered that up for him.

[RobTheRover]

Well and truly, mate.  He must have had a fiver on 1-0 to France

[drfchound]

Giroud isn't known for his pace is he.
He has plenty of other attributes though that make him a very good player.

[BillyStubbsTears]

That's one way of putting it Hound.

Empires have risen and fallen faster than Giroud got from the halfway line to the box.

[boro_rover]

He was horrendously slow. It's a poor show when your caught up by a centre half when you have a five yard head start. He must have known he was that slow, all he had to do was look right and square it to Griezmann

[Sammy Chung was King]

Giroud will get there, but in instalments, he is the 'direct debit of football'!.

[southwestexile]

Giroud isn't known for his pace is he.
He has plenty of other attributes though that make him a very good player.

Just like our strikers are typically not known for their goal scoring. They do have many other abilities though, principally getting tattoos

[Sammy Chung was King]

If England played a big man up front on his own, it would be seen as a throwback to the eighties, the french do it and nothing is said.

[RedJ]

Because they don't f**king lump it up to him with no other game plan.

[drfchound]

Because they don't f**king lump it up to him with no other game plan.

As slow as he is though he is their first choice front man.
Not all players are blessed with pace are they.
Very obviously the french value what he bring to the team and he will be playing in the Final tomorrow.

[RedJ]

Read what I'm saying that in response to, hound.

My point is that they don't use him as a battering ram the way we would if we played a big man up front like Sammy suggests.

[andyst79]

Giroud is no mug & the perfect foil for Griezmann

[Colemans Left Hook]

 I remember arsenal playing at home in Europe and some rookie kid playing in attack 2014 ? I think it was against a top european team - giroud having been suspended for disciplinary reasons by "arsenic winger"

took me a while to work out the sp 


the question is do some footballers prefer "playing at home" or "playing away"

[Red wizard]

He gets ni on 20 goals a seaaon. I like him he's a rich mans chris Brown. Lol.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Because they don't f**king lump it up to him with no other game plan.

True, but whoever the manager is for england, put say Andy Carroll up front, and no matter how much good football was played, if he scored the one goal from a long ball, the rest of the football would be forgotten!.
I love a team that plays great, passing football to feet or in space, but i see aimless passing for no reason, as bad as playing long ball all the time. The spanish played the style they do, and a lot of teams, ours included copied, or tried to!.
It's embarrassing to say, but our international players can't pass a ball, when under pressure. If you have a poor team, and long ball is the way to win, then do it.

 Sam Allardyce sides are the perfect example. When he has had limited sides he has played to they're strengths. When he had a bit more money to get better players at west ham, he tried to get his side playing with more variation. But he will always be known as a 'long ball manager', no matter what he does.
Our country has become snobbish about what type of goals we score!, yes i don't want to watch eighties throwback football, but neither do i want endless passing sideways, backwards, the back again. There is no 'right and wrong way' to win and game, only just to make sure you win!.

[drfchound]

Sammy, i saw a stat recently about one of the Spanish games, the writer was drooling ( i was going to put salivating but i cant spell it) over the number of successful passes the Spain player had put together.
There was no mention though that loads of them were by players knocking five and ten yard passes back and forth around the halfway line.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Sammy, i saw a stat recently about one of the Spanish games, the writer was drooling ( i was going to put salivating but i cant spell it) over the number of successful passes the Spain player had put together.
There was no mention though that loads of them were by players knocking five and ten yard passes back and forth around the halfway line.

Lack of concentration, when they do this, causes most of the problems for teams. They pass it around five and ten yards, like you say, then the change direction all of a sudden, and up the speed they are playing at, and it catches teams out.
Our side when we try play that way, are too methodical, slow and don't have another speed to up it to. We have good players, but we need to play the way it suits our players.
Our style is something between the dutch and germany, only we aren't technically as good, or as confident on the ball, control is a given for those countries, our players have to think 'if' they will control it.

[drfchound]

Sammy, i understand why they do it mate but the point i was making is that the completed pass stats are very misleading and people who crow on about how many completed passes they make make a really big deal out of it.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Sammy, i understand why they do it mate but the point i was making is that the completed pass stats are very misleading and people who crow on about how many completed passes they make make a really big deal out of it.

Yes the simple passes do bump up the passes made successfully. Our game has gone away from it being a simple game, to overcomplicating things.
Our country with football, always see others ways of doing things, are the right ways. The trick is to get our players mentally stronger, better at passing a ball, and finishing chances under pressure.
The right footed winger, who plays wide right, has become a left winger cutting in, leading the player into the middle of the field, the most occupied area on the field. The teams that realise this and play wingers in the old way, will gain an advantage.

[ravenrover]

Just Gerrit forrard!
The shout that never goes away