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grayx

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #30 on May 07, 2017, 07:56:47 pm by grayx »
IMHO the substitution of Luke cost us a lot more than Copps did. Had no one in midfield at all, lost all service to the strikers and allowed Pools to dictate the game from that moment on. Final point Grant yet again offered nothing, and id like to have a look at Rodney if I was Fergie, he looked quality.

Luke was having a stinker yesterday and was rightly taken off. He was that far off the pace and was a red card waiting to happen.



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DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #31 on May 07, 2017, 09:02:12 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I was standing in the check-in at Malaga airport on 70 mins. As it stands were Champions. I said to my mate, this is where managers earn their corn as so many times they make subs for the wrong reasons.

At the point my mate read out the sub from text commentary. Copps on, ATS on.

That's us fcuked I said.

drfc1951

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #32 on May 07, 2017, 10:30:14 pm by drfc1951 »
We can play without Copps,as proved when he was suspended for 3 games.7points out of 9

drfchound

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #33 on May 07, 2017, 10:44:07 pm by drfchound »
It's about time this was ironed out.

1) Copps does get knackered towards the end, so him staying on means a rapidly decreasing positive input, and more likely to pick up a career ending injury

2) Old crocs need to not push themselves to stand a chance of staying in the game. It'll have been a decision by Copps to ask to be taken off early to prolong his career. Note how it's almost exactly the same time each match.

If you disagree, go ask him.




It seems very obvious from the words you have used (it'll have been a decision by Copps) that you are guessing your assumptions.
Did you ask him if it is true?

dickos1

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #34 on May 07, 2017, 11:52:16 pm by dickos1 »
We won 5-1 against Grimsby without him,

wing commander

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #35 on May 08, 2017, 10:15:19 am by wing commander »
Regardless it has to be a priority in this summers dealings....DF obviously believes Copps only has 70 mins in him now and that's at league 2 level...So we have to find a replacement this close season as I can only see Copps playing a bit part role next year...I think this one year contract he's just got will sadly be his last...

ballysbackin

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #36 on May 08, 2017, 11:19:19 am by ballysbackin »
He will be akin to Mc Sheffrey I think

steve@dcfd

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #37 on May 08, 2017, 11:30:30 am by steve@dcfd »
Me personally, I would have taken Marquis off, just like he should have been taken off in the last game against Exeter, ineffective and looked bored, I could be wrong here but I don't think he's had a shot on target in his last 3/4 games.

No because apart from Coppinger the rest of the players, apart from cameos from Tommy Rowe we have had no midfield the strikers haven't had a chance.

Herman Hessian

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #38 on May 08, 2017, 11:33:48 am by Herman Hessian »
He will be akin to Mc Sheffrey I think

that bad - shame for his career to end in such an ignominious fashion....

drfchound

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #39 on May 08, 2017, 11:49:54 am by drfchound »
Me personally, I would have taken Marquis off, just like he should have been taken off in the last game against Exeter, ineffective and looked bored, I could be wrong here but I don't think he's had a shot on target in his last 3/4 games.

No because apart from Coppinger the rest of the players, apart from cameos from Tommy Rowe we have had no midfield the strikers haven't had a chance.




I can remember at least two in the last home game, both saved by the keeper.

Donnyjim

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #40 on May 08, 2017, 11:59:35 am by Donnyjim »
Have to agree on Marquis. He has been poor since Mansfield. You wonder whether his head has been turned by his agent or something?

ballysbackin

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #41 on May 08, 2017, 12:16:45 pm by ballysbackin »
More like pissed off at what is happening in midfield and having to carry Williams and May, in the Mansfield game he was as far back as half way line to get the ball and then had to go up with it and expected to score, there certainly been a different team out there since Grimsby 5 - 1 mauling without a doubt. He is here for another year and says he wants to stay.

MrFrost

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #42 on May 08, 2017, 01:09:26 pm by MrFrost »
More like pissed off at what is happening in midfield and having to carry Williams and May, in the Mansfield game he was as far back as half way line to get the ball and then had to go up with it and expected to score, there certainly been a different team out there since Grimsby 5 - 1 mauling without a doubt. He is here for another year and says he wants to stay.

In the games Williams has played since then, he has been the better player.

ballysbackin

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #43 on May 08, 2017, 01:12:03 pm by ballysbackin »
I wish he had scored a lot more goals too

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #44 on May 08, 2017, 02:04:50 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
It's about time this was ironed out.

1) Copps does get knackered towards the end, so him staying on means a rapidly decreasing positive input, and more likely to pick up a career ending injury

2) Old crocs need to not push themselves to stand a chance of staying in the game. It'll have been a decision by Copps to ask to be taken off early to prolong his career. Note how it's almost exactly the same time each match.

If you disagree, go ask him.


It seems very obvious from the words you have used (it'll have been a decision by Copps) that you are guessing your assumptions.
Did you ask him if it is true?

Guessing or deduction? ;) I'm putting together all the clues that many are ignoring. Within that, I recall him saying close to it, and DonnyOsmond refers to an interview further up this thread where Copps said he can't play so well when he tightens up.

Going back through the season's league games, here's the times of Copp's substitutions, or not. You can see a pattern consistent with adapting to his fitness, and an increasing vulnerability as the season progresses to which you can draw your own conclusions or put the question to the man or manager.
May
Hartlepool 73m
April
Exeter 71
Wycombe 67
Blackpool Inj
Colchester Inj
Mansfield Sub on at 59
March
Plymouth full 90
Orient 78
Notts 79
Cheltenham 76
Crawley 73
Feb
Cambridge 76
Accrington 79
Luton full 90
Carlisle full 90
Newport rested
Morecambe full 90
Jan
Yeovil 73
Crewe full 90
Barnet 87
Portsmouth 67
Stevenage 92/96
December
Mansfield susp
Notts susp
Grimsby susp
Plymouth sent off
Stevenage 84
November
Orient 90/94
Hartlepool 93/94
Exeter full 90
October
Wycombe full 90
Blackpool 79
Colchester full 90
Barnet 74
Portsmouth 75
September
Carlisle 78
Luton full 90
Newport 77
Morecombe 86
Crewe full 90
August
Yeovil 85
Cheltenham 87
Cambridge full 90
Crawley full 90
Accrington 66
« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 02:07:25 pm by Bristol Red Rover »

GazLaz

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Re: Coppinger substitution
« Reply #45 on May 08, 2017, 03:27:16 pm by GazLaz »
No coincidence that after he played 90mins against Plymouth he didn't start the next game then was out injured.

 

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