Lets talk about the Rochdale F.A. cup match

[drfchound]

Back on topic, we will need a strong and competent ref tomorrow because for sure, as others have said, Rochdale will almost certainly re introduce themselves with strong arm tactics.

[selby]

  Yes back on subject Hound, Hill is expecting a reaction to the league fixture scoreline, and has analysed the game, and has openly stated that they will try and recreate their second half showing, when he thought they were the better side.
  Rafferty should be back from injury, but Davies will miss the tie with a groin injury he picked up in the game at Doncaster.
  They have a far better recent cup record than ourselves, in recent years getting to the 4th round 3yrs out of the last 4yrs, one of their scalps being Weeds 4yrs ago he he.
  So recent history is in their favour, and they fancy it against us., and I think we can expect a few feathers to fly.
 

[Alan Southstand]

The thing is though, we had half our team struggling with some sort of bug.

It won’t be easy and we have lost a goal scoring midfielder, which doesn’t help.

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If you are attending tomorrow please don't forget the foodbank collection, all contributions are welcome!

[Campsall rover]

Good ref in Andy Woolmer. He won’t stand any nonesence.
Expecting a very tough game tomorrow. Can’t believe Rochdale are 2nd to bottom. They are losing most games by 1 goal only.
One of the better teams to visit the Moat this season.

[selby]

  One for the statoes, is this tie between the least successful league team (Rochdale) and the least successful F,A. cup side (us) who have played in the competitions since the war?
   I don't know if the teams  hold those unwanted records, but they cannot be far off.

[Campsall rover]

Brian as you will know Rovers got to Round 5 last 16 three years on the trot in the 50’s
Surely there must be clubs with a worst FA Cup record.
I know ours is pretty appalling but worst ???

[selby]

  Paul, that was pathetic in front of goal, how we can dominate the second half like that and one of our front two strikers not threaten their goal at all, is beyond me.
  And that miss by Beestin, its all right people thinking May and Beestin are good enough, but with Mason once again proving he cannot play left back , its like taking the field with eight men.
 Well it has cost us £67,500 and counting, I hope they draw Man Utd away, they deserve to., and it might just open some peoples eyes.

[mushRTID]

Good ref in Andy Woolmer. He won’t stand any nonesence.

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[DonnyBazR0ver]

Being cynical, you can't turn up for a game of football and only play 45 minutes of the 90 and expect to get away with it.

Tommy Rowe should hang his head in shame as he ambled and hid for most of the first half. The effort he put in in the second half just highlights what a lazy sod he can be. He's a senior pro who should be leading by example. His role in our relatively inexperienced team is pivotal but he cheated a wage in that first half.

Overall, we had enough chances to win comfortably and it's likely Beestin and Mason won't sleep very well tonight but at least they gave their best.

As much as we'd like May to succeed, he's not showing enough to convince me he's going to be good enough at this level.

It's a shame as it's a great opportunity missed to get through to the next round.

[selby]

  Paul, I can remember coming on here five or six weeks ago and saying if Fergie continued to  play Alfie, his lack of goals could cost him his job.
  Hopefully it will not, but has gone a long way to probably costing him a couple of players in the window, with the chance of a big draw in the next round and the money it would have generated.
   Everything I thought would happen did, we knew they would be physical, we Knew they would  attack our wide backs, we are, and have been poor there in our other games against them. We are poor in front of goal, and when May plays with Marquis both dry up.
  We have been fortunate in the last few weeks that midfielders, Butler, and Whiteman have scored, and masked the fact that the strikers are not functioning together.
  Well barring a fantastic run of results that is not likely, that is season over, the chance of financial gains in two cups handed over to Rochdale, a team that have not beaten a league team away until today this season, and who must have been laughing their heads off when they saw our team sheet before kick off.
  All week Fergie has said he would pick his strongest side, if he thinks that is it, we are in for a long drawn out battle against going down, Square pegs in round holes,and players not up to  the standard required never gets a team anywhere.
  If we let it go on, all the good work off the field this season,will be thrown away with the home crowd reducing as the season goes on.
  And stand by for the same Physical and spoiling tactics against Plymouth, in fact they  have built their away game reputation doing it in the last few seasons, and pulled our teeth out at the Keepmoat last season.

[ravenrover]

And let me guess what or more likely who is your answer

[Campsall rover]

Brian you have started your last 2 posts Paul.
Is that me or another Paul. As I have said to you I agree about Alfie May 100%
He is still very much work in progress and should be on the bench and used as an impact player. He just was out muscled today and looked knackered 2nd half.
Big mistake as you said playing Mason at left back. It worked last week as he was ear marked to keep Maddison quiet.
He is a right back nothing else full stop.
The misses today were shocking particularly Beestin and Rowe. Tommy should have scored he is better than that. He was brill 2nd half apart from the miss.
4 penalty shouts 2 definitely, 2 not pens imo.
Foul on Marquis in first min red card all day long. Ref bottled it big time.
I thought Woolmer was a decent strong ref. How wrong can i be.
Absolute Joke he let Rochdale do what they liked.
One major positive today though was performance of Rodney.
Looked like a proper footballer today. A few poor crosses from him but what an improvement. We will need that from him now Whiteman has gone.
Think DF is just trying to manage Copps hence not starting and playing Beestin.
Possibly several hundred thousand pounds gone to Rochdale and not us unfortunately and that will have a serious impact this season and possibly the summer budget also.
Positive thinking though as anything else just drags you down.
Onwards and upwards.

[eastender]

I don't blame DF , I blame his dad  , we've never won when he's been to watch.

[selby]

  That first tackle set the tone of the game, it does not take much for players to realise they can get away with the rough stuff.
   Rochdale were given licence to push it to the limit after that tackle. The stiff arm elbow enacted on Coppinger is a six to eight match ban at rugby league and a player put on report.

[Campsall rover]

100% agreed. Yes we did need a strong ref. I thought Woolmer was when I heard yesterday he was doing our match.
I must have been thinking he was someone else.

[RoversAlias]

  Paul, I can remember coming on here five or six weeks ago and saying if Fergie continued to  play Alfie, his lack of goals could cost him his job.
  Hopefully it will not, but has gone a long way to probably costing him a couple of players in the window, with the chance of a big draw in the next round and the money it would have generated.
   Everything I thought would happen did, we knew they would be physical, we Knew they would  attack our wide backs, we are, and have been poor there in our other games against them. We are poor in front of goal, and when May plays with Marquis both dry up.
  We have been fortunate in the last few weeks that midfielders, Butler, and Whiteman have scored, and masked the fact that the strikers are not functioning together.
  Well barring a fantastic run of results that is not likely, that is season over, the chance of financial gains in two cups handed over to Rochdale, a team that have not beaten a league team away until today this season, and who must have been laughing their heads off when they saw our team sheet before kick off.
  All week Fergie has said he would pick his strongest side, if he thinks that is it, we are in for a long drawn out battle against going down, Square pegs in round holes,and players not up to  the standard required never gets a team anywhere.
  If we let it go on, all the good work off the field this season,will be thrown away with the home crowd reducing as the season goes on.
  And stand by for the same Physical and spoiling tactics against Plymouth, in fact they  have built their away game reputation doing it in the last few seasons, and pulled our teeth out at the Keepmoat last season.

So selby you are saying Alfie May was the reason we lost today? Not Beestin or Rowe for missing excellent chances? Nor whichever defender didn't stop Andrew heading in the winning goal, or the keeper? Or, you know, the entire team for their collective part in losing the football match, since rarely are results down to just one player out of 22 on a pitch?

This is starting to look like a vendetta and I simply don't think it's justified.

[selby]

  Of course I think that Beestin and Rowe are at fault for missing them two chances, of course I think that the referee played a big part in our demise, You cannot blame May for missing chances today,he never got near the goal to miss any, and was not in the game in the second half, a part of the game we dominated.
   If you think he had a good game R.A. you definitely see a different game to me. You seem to want me to comment on how I thought May played, well as a matter of fact I thought he was s***e.

[The Red Baron]

I actually think that is the poorest game I've seen May have since he joined us. His conversion rate is poor but he usually manages to either get a chance or make something happen by harrassing defenders. I thought he should have come off much earlier than he did.

Although the biggest error was not playing Coppinger from the start. Something I don't understand because he was rested on Monday and we clearly wanted to win this game. I understand his workload needs to be managed but with no midweek game next week it seemed madness not to start him.

[RoversAlias]

Selby I've said in other threads that May was poor yesterday, but he certainly wasn't the only one nor can he take the blame for our defeat.

[selby]

 R.B. I agree entirely with your comments, the biggest mistake was made  before a ball was kicked, and Coppinger not starting was not the only one made before the game.
 What the bloody hell is going off with Wright. or is his situation another case of Fergie managing the situation.
 I think he is out of contract at the end of the season, but I am not certain of that, but he must think why am I not playing after the way he has played this season, and could think I am getting away from this, if he is.