Lawler

[Michael Shaw]

Lawlor is just one man in what should be a five man defence. I don't  see why he alone should carry the can for goals conceded.

[Chris Black come back]

You might make the point that when it comes to goals from corners, the goalkeeper has a more responsible role than when in open play. He clearly is not particularly strong in such situations.

[Cramby10]

I wish we would leave a man on the far post for corners and some set pieces. I’m sure this would help us.
However, this end of the pitch is the very least of our worries. It’s only cos mistakes at this end cost goals. Mistakes at the business end tend to get overlooked and forgotten.
It’s the other end where we are totally toothless. Our inability to even threaten Charlton until the goal yesterday was rather alarming. And this has been a bit of a worrying trend throughout the season.
Marquis has been out of form for a chunk of it.
We have triers like May and Beestin but if you’re honest are they realistically the long term answer?
Then there’s the way the team is set up which certainly handicaps us. I’m not tactical expert but it just don’t work. The gap between our attackers and midfield yesterday was massive at times leaving a huge gap in the middle. And with the slow and ponderous way we play is inexcusable.
It’s not as if our play is down the flanks either.
The goal we scored against Bristol Rovers was perfect wing play by Blair, which is where he should always be, and provided the easiest goal you will see.
We never tried it again!!!! We kept coming inside.
Must do better and take the shackles off please.

[RedJ]

We play so f**king slowly and predictably that it's almost impossible for the strikers to get much chance of scoring as by the time the ball is with them they've been crowded out because the pass was seen about 5 minutes before it reaches them it's that obvious what they're going to do in the build up. It's all so ponderous.

None of this fast attacking football where we could tear a defence apart seemingly at will from last year - yes I know it's a tougher division but the style of play is totally different. It's been effective in stopping leaking as many goals but that's about it.

[i_ateallthepies]

Wasn't a strong header and I certainly don't disagree that he might have done better, however in Lawlors defence it can't be easy when the ball is travelling through so many bodies in the box.

I was right behind the line of the header, there were no bodies in between the header and Lawlor, he had a clear sight of it but went down on his arse expecting it to bounce right at his feet.
I'm sorry but to everybody saying he's a good keeper and the best since Sully, I haven't seen ANY of our keepers since Sully making so many basic errors which led to goals.  Time Marosi was given his chance, if for no other reason than Lawlor needs to understand he has to get his act together.

[drfchound]

Absolutely right that there was no one between the CB and the keeper.

[MachoMadness]

Lawlor leaves me scratching my head at times with some of the goals he lets in, but then he also makes top class saves that no other keeper at the club would get near. That gives me hope that he will improve and iron out the silly errors and soft goals, and then we'll have a real player on our hands.

[drfchound]

Most keepers don’t peak until their mid to late twenties.
Lawlor still has time on his side.

[Donnywolf]

I literally don't get some of our fans and what they see at times. Lawlor is for me easily the best permanent keeper we've had since Sullivan. It isn't even close, he's better than Marosi (and I really do like Marko). He makes errors but he's young and actually pretty inexperienced for a pro keeper yet he has an excellent kick on him, is a superb shot stopper and his distribution is actually very good. Fergie is the first manager we've had that insists on constant short distribution from the keeper so of course it is going to be noticeable when it goes wrong more. Lawlor will be a Championship calibre goalkeeper within a few years and will spend the majority of his career at that level in my view. I just hope it's with us.

Of all his mistakes this season, how many have been because he’s been trying to distribute it short? I like Lawlor, think he has plenty of potnential, but if you think about it he has probably averaged gifting a goal to the opposition every 2/3 games this season - at what point do you draw the line?

Does anyone else think we should mix it up a bit ? Man City and others like to play from the back (s did SOD) but Charlton knew that and pressed us all game as others have done

So instead should we now and again play it longer and risk losing possession or even more likely the ball not ending on the "green bit between the Stands" and going straight out of play ?

[RedJ]

No because when we do hoof it it still doesn't work...

[ravenrover]

Who is there capable of winning, let alone doing anything with a long ball launched forward? We don't have that type of physical target man that many other teams have, nor do we have the runners to support said target man and in my opinion, both are something we need at this level.

[bobbymax]

I literally don't get some of our fans and what they see at times. Lawlor is for me easily the best permanent keeper we've had since Sullivan. It isn't even close, he's better than Marosi (and I really do like Marko). He makes errors but he's young and actually pretty inexperienced for a pro keeper yet he has an excellent kick on him, is a superb shot stopper and his distribution is actually very good. Fergie is the first manager we've had that insists on constant short distribution from the keeper so of course it is going to be noticeable when it goes wrong more. Lawlor will be a Championship calibre goalkeeper within a few years and will spend the majority of his career at that level in my view. I just hope it's with us.

Of all his mistakes this season, how many have been because he’s been trying to distribute it short? I like Lawlor, think he has plenty of potnential, but if you think about it he has probably averaged gifting a goal to the opposition every 2/3 games this season - at what point do you draw the line?

Does anyone else think we should mix it up a bit ? Man City and others like to play from the back (s did SOD) but Charlton knew that and pressed us all game as others have done

So instead should we now and again play it longer and risk losing possession or even more likely the ball not ending on the "green bit between the Stands" and going straight out of play ?

Have been thinking the same. Turn defenders a bit more some times. Marquis and Beestin are best with balls into feet but Kiwomya's pace will trouble centre-backs in this league and getting behind more will enable us to play further up the pitch. We're too predictable sometimes.

[DonnyOsmond]

I wish we would leave a man on the far post for corners and some set pieces. I’m sure this would help us.
However, this end of the pitch is the very least of our worries. It’s only cos mistakes at this end cost goals. Mistakes at the business end tend to get overlooked and forgotten.
It’s the other end where we are totally toothless. Our inability to even threaten Charlton until the goal yesterday was rather alarming. And this has been a bit of a worrying trend throughout the season.
Marquis has been out of form for a chunk of it.
We have triers like May and Beestin but if you’re honest are they realistically the long term answer?
Then there’s the way the team is set up which certainly handicaps us. I’m not tactical expert but it just don’t work. The gap between our attackers and midfield yesterday was massive at times leaving a huge gap in the middle. And with the slow and ponderous way we play is inexcusable.
It’s not as if our play is down the flanks either.
The goal we scored against Bristol Rovers was perfect wing play by Blair, which is where he should always be, and provided the easiest goal you will see.
We never tried it again!!!! We kept coming inside.
Must do better and take the shackles off please.

Beestin is one our best technical players. He's might not be a striker but he isn't just a "trier".

[drfchound]

Beestin is becoming a very good footballer.

[Donnywolf]

He should make a good un I agree - just needs to bulk up a bit and his fast feet will do the rest !

[aussyroy]

Most keepers don’t peak until their mid to late twenties.
Lawlor still has time on his side.

So, he should be learning his trade in the seconds. Some of his efforts have been pathetic, especially not coming off his  line
from corners.

[drfchound]

Most keepers don’t peak until their mid to late twenties.
Lawlor still has time on his side.

So, he should be learning his trade in the seconds. Some of his efforts have been pathetic, especially not coming off his  line
from corners.

As I have said before, the staying on the line thing is quite common amongst modern day keepers.
It has to be the coaching.

[drfchound]

Just heard that Lawlor has nine clean sheets this season, equal sixth best.

[dickos1]

Our recent unbeaten away record is mainly down to him

I know you will disagree but how many goals has he given away at home where we havent won this year?

How can I disagree?
Youve asked a question, I've no idea