Paul Taylor

[ravenrover]

Not sure why some are saying we have a top six budget when we don't.
In fairness nobody from the club has said that.
The ambition is to challenge for the top six - but we don't have a top six budget.
That's why Fergie left.
End of.
Let's move on.

That's right, but we did have a top 7 budget last season, and this years budget is bigger.

But that's not why he left, and in fairness to quote you, nobody from the club has said that nor has DF himself.

SM, you may be reasonably well respected and trusted to quote you, but surely you are stretching your credibility to the limit by implying the budget was nothing to do with Fergie's departure.
I thought everyone generally accepted that it was at least a contributory factor, if not the main reason.
Nobody knows, of course, except Fergie himself.
That is, unless you have even more privileged information along with that LG1 SCMP Benchmarking list in your possession. 

Misquoting me again Dave?

You can do better than that!

The contradiction in your posts is remarkable. You've gone from saying the budget was the reason he left, end of, lets move on, to now saying it was a contributory factor. All I did was point out that neither the club or DF himself has said anything of the sort.

Keep up!

Here we go with the old Dave jokes again.
Don't think it works as a smokescreen as much as it used to though.
It's laughable that you should claim a contradiction in my posts when it actually applies to yours.
I DID say Fergie left because the ambition was to challenge for top six - but we didn't have a top six budget.
You said, and I quote, 'that's not why he left'!
Obviously my understanding of English is not as good as yours but I would have thought that implied it was nothing to do with the budget. 
When I later mentioned 'contributory factor' I said I thought 'everyone' generally accepted it was at least a contributory factor.
Clearly you don't.

Neither do as it happens, until either the club or DF give us the actual reason/s of him leaving then, and only then will I accept it. I doubt very much than anyone on this forum knows the real reason despite them saying they have insider information to the contrary.

[no eyed deer]

Michael, with respect, you have been posting on here for a year and a half so you should have seen enough posts from SM to have a decent understanding of his position with the VSC and the club.

It's just that he's never critical of the board and always seems to defend them.

If correcting other's ludicrous assumptions about what's going on is classed as defending them, then I for one am glad he's doing it.

Are all ludicrous or is it that you believe everything your told.

[Bessie Red]

SM, can you possibly update your profile in Silent Majority to say "Dep Chair of the FSF" to give a clue? Anyone can come on here making outlandish claims but it's not clear that you have genuine authority and respect of the VSC. I could say David Blunt is my brother and he tells me everything and I know why Fergie resigned and I'm going to tell everyone. But it would all be a lie.

It’s very clear who sm is, he doesn’t hide it nor does he need to put his name in lights

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

Or he could have been an out of work manager looking for a team.

Yes he was fact. However that is not my point.

[no eyed deer]

SM, can you possibly update your profile in Silent Majority to say "Dep Chair of the FSF" to give a clue? Anyone can come on here making outlandish claims but it's not clear that you have genuine authority and respect of the VSC. I could say David Blunt is my brother and he tells me everything and I know why Fergie resigned and I'm going to tell everyone. But it would all be a lie.

It’s very clear who sm is, he doesn’t hide it nor does he need to put his name in lights

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

Or he could have been an out of work manager looking for a team.

Yes he was fact. However that is not my point.

No, but it's my point and who's right.

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Caution WUM alert

[Bessie Red]

SM, can you possibly update your profile in Silent Majority to say "Dep Chair of the FSF" to give a clue? Anyone can come on here making outlandish claims but it's not clear that you have genuine authority and respect of the VSC. I could say David Blunt is my brother and he tells me everything and I know why Fergie resigned and I'm going to tell everyone. But it would all be a lie.

It’s very clear who sm is, he doesn’t hide it nor does he need to put his name in lights

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

Or he could have been an out of work manager looking for a team.

Yes he was fact. However that is not my point.

No, but it's my point and who's right.

Oh yeah you are right of course, sorry to have the temerity to question you, sorry.

[no eyed deer]

SM, can you possibly update your profile in Silent Majority to say "Dep Chair of the FSF" to give a clue? Anyone can come on here making outlandish claims but it's not clear that you have genuine authority and respect of the VSC. I could say David Blunt is my brother and he tells me everything and I know why Fergie resigned and I'm going to tell everyone. But it would all be a lie.

It’s very clear who sm is, he doesn’t hide it nor does he need to put his name in lights

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

When I was working I was on a salary above my pay grade. My manager probably thought I should be grateful, but when I didn’t know any of my other team member’s salaries I had no idea that I was anything above average. Having all the information changes perspectives immensely.

As a grunt supporter, possibly like raggytash, all I want is to see more quality players come in before the season starts for real. Without insider info how can we be expected to know what is still in the pot. It could all be spent already or the board are holding back on us. We keep being told not to bring up the budget so fine give us loads of new players then.. If we are to believe the budget is not an issue,  then can GM please get on with constructive recruitment?

Have you not considered that our new Manager may be content with the players he already has & feels that he can get more out of them than DF could & therefore is saving the budget for loans, January transfers etc. If you think about it even a modest improvement on individual performances would see us in and around the Play Offs.

Or he could have been an out of work manager looking for a team.

Yes he was fact. However that is not my point.

No, but it's my point and who's right.

Oh yeah you are right of course, sorry to have the temerity to question you, sorry.

I never said I was right and that's my point !

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