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For me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.
Quote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 02:45:12 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.
Quote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.
Quote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 03:07:43 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 03:00:41 pmQuote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 02:45:12 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.How we set up and how the game panned out are two very different things Wabtec. For me Ipswich were very disappointing yesterday, I expected more from them to be honest. Norwood was isolated upfront on his own and the speed down the flanks that they play with normally was non existent, very long ball which Anderson & John were able to pick off.Two ways to look at what you are saying Wabtec, although I don't disagree with you, but yes what might have happened? We might have converted those missed chances and come away with three points, on the other hand we might have opened the game up fro them to get in behind us more, we won't ever know will we? I predicted a draw and was quite happy with that prior to the game but like a lot of people have already said both on here and on other social media, we should have taken our chances and come away from there with 3 points and I feel the same way tbh as does the manager if you listen to his interviews.we did not allow Ipswich to play our passing and pressing stopped them for most of the game,thats why they they looked disappointingyes we missed chances but that was nothing to do with how we set up,you said we set up not to concede goals,I hope we set up to do that way every matchfrom what I,ve seen and that is every game this season,Darren moore is improving this team week by week we have a great chance of top six and maybe more,
Quote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 03:00:41 pmQuote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 02:45:12 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.How we set up and how the game panned out are two very different things Wabtec. For me Ipswich were very disappointing yesterday, I expected more from them to be honest. Norwood was isolated upfront on his own and the speed down the flanks that they play with normally was non existent, very long ball which Anderson & John were able to pick off.Two ways to look at what you are saying Wabtec, although I don't disagree with you, but yes what might have happened? We might have converted those missed chances and come away with three points, on the other hand we might have opened the game up fro them to get in behind us more, we won't ever know will we? I predicted a draw and was quite happy with that prior to the game but like a lot of people have already said both on here and on other social media, we should have taken our chances and come away from there with 3 points and I feel the same way tbh as does the manager if you listen to his interviews.we did not allow Ipswich to play our passing and pressing stopped them for most of the game,thats why they they looked disappointingyes we missed chances but that was nothing to do with how we set up,you said we set up not to concede goals,I hope we set up to do that way every matchfrom what I,ve seen and that is every game this season,Darren moore is improving this team week by week we have a great chance of top six and maybe more,
Quote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 02:45:12 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.How we set up and how the game panned out are two very different things Wabtec. For me Ipswich were very disappointing yesterday, I expected more from them to be honest. Norwood was isolated upfront on his own and the speed down the flanks that they play with normally was non existent, very long ball which Anderson & John were able to pick off.Two ways to look at what you are saying Wabtec, although I don't disagree with you, but yes what might have happened? We might have converted those missed chances and come away with three points, on the other hand we might have opened the game up fro them to get in behind us more, we won't ever know will we? I predicted a draw and was quite happy with that prior to the game but like a lot of people have already said both on here and on other social media, we should have taken our chances and come away from there with 3 points and I feel the same way tbh as does the manager if you listen to his interviews.we did not allow Ipswich to play our passing and pressing stopped them for most of the game,thats why they they looked disappointingyes we missed chances but that was nothing to do with how we set up,you said we set up not to concede goals,I hope we set up to do that way every matchfrom what I,ve seen and that is every game this season,Darren moore is improving this team week by week we have a great chance of top six and maybe more,
For me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.You can't get 2 points from a game it's 1 or 3.
Quote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 03:17:42 pmQuote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 03:07:43 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 03:00:41 pmQuote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 02:45:12 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.How we set up and how the game panned out are two very different things Wabtec. For me Ipswich were very disappointing yesterday, I expected more from them to be honest. Norwood was isolated upfront on his own and the speed down the flanks that they play with normally was non existent, very long ball which Anderson & John were able to pick off.Two ways to look at what you are saying Wabtec, although I don't disagree with you, but yes what might have happened? We might have converted those missed chances and come away with three points, on the other hand we might have opened the game up fro them to get in behind us more, we won't ever know will we? I predicted a draw and was quite happy with that prior to the game but like a lot of people have already said both on here and on other social media, we should have taken our chances and come away from there with 3 points and I feel the same way tbh as does the manager if you listen to his interviews.we did not allow Ipswich to play our passing and pressing stopped them for most of the game,thats why they they looked disappointingyes we missed chances but that was nothing to do with how we set up,you said we set up not to concede goals,I hope we set up to do that way every matchfrom what I,ve seen and that is every game this season,Darren moore is improving this team week by week we have a great chance of top six and maybe more,That awkward moment when two people keep trying to quote each other in a discussion and neither of them have a f-ing clue how to do it
Quote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 03:07:43 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 03:00:41 pmQuote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 02:45:12 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.How we set up and how the game panned out are two very different things Wabtec. For me Ipswich were very disappointing yesterday, I expected more from them to be honest. Norwood was isolated upfront on his own and the speed down the flanks that they play with normally was non existent, very long ball which Anderson & John were able to pick off.Two ways to look at what you are saying Wabtec, although I don't disagree with you, but yes what might have happened? We might have converted those missed chances and come away with three points, on the other hand we might have opened the game up fro them to get in behind us more, we won't ever know will we? I predicted a draw and was quite happy with that prior to the game but like a lot of people have already said both on here and on other social media, we should have taken our chances and come away from there with 3 points and I feel the same way tbh as does the manager if you listen to his interviews.we did not allow Ipswich to play our passing and pressing stopped them for most of the game,thats why they they looked disappointingyes we missed chances but that was nothing to do with how we set up,you said we set up not to concede goals,I hope we set up to do that way every matchfrom what I,ve seen and that is every game this season,Darren moore is improving this team week by week we have a great chance of top six and maybe more,That awkward moment when two people keep trying to quote each other in a discussion and neither of them have a f-ing clue how to do it
Quote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 03:00:41 pmQuote from: wabtec on September 15, 2019, 02:45:12 pmQuote from: NewDonny on September 15, 2019, 02:30:46 pmFor me we picked a team to do a job at Ipswich which they did, although I cannot help thinking that having set our stall out to nor conceded and getting at least a point, we should have come away with two points and that our finishing on this occasion let us down. Then side for me was I think picked with an eye on the Blackpool game which is just as important, they lost yesterday so will be looking for a reaction on Tuesday night so another big performance will be needed and I would hope that we would go out at home to take the game to Blackpool so would expect changes.Newdonny Darren Moore did not set out not to concede he set out to win it,if you were there yesterday you would know that we played them off the park in the first half with quality football and matched them in the second half.Then we saw the game differently Wabtec as I saw a different game in front of me up there yesterday to you. I am not disputing we were the better team on the day but we did not play them off the park and the team we set up with was done with protecting the point and nicking the win if we could. We started very well moving the ball around but they came back into it into second half of the 1st half and could have gone in a goal up. That said we too should have taken our earlier chances, Taylors glaring miss being the obvious one.I agree we matched them in the first 15 minutes of the second half but then we started to fade and needed to make changes as we were running out of air and ideas and the ball was coming back at our defence regularly. The changes added fresh impetus and we created a good number of chances but then in the last 10 minutes the game became a bit ragged and a lot of long ball was evident and the game went from end to end.But did we play defensibly like you said we were set up to do?Imo not at all we outplayed a top team for most of the game,just think what would have happened if we had set up to attack in your way of thinking.How we set up and how the game panned out are two very different things Wabtec. For me Ipswich were very disappointing yesterday, I expected more from them to be honest. Norwood was isolated upfront on his own and the speed down the flanks that they play with normally was non existent, very long ball which Anderson & John were able to pick off.Two ways to look at what you are saying Wabtec, although I don't disagree with you, but yes what might have happened? We might have converted those missed chances and come away with three points, on the other hand we might have opened the game up fro them to get in behind us more, we won't ever know will we? I predicted a draw and was quite happy with that prior to the game but like a lot of people have already said both on here and on other social media, we should have taken our chances and come away from there with 3 points and I feel the same way tbh as does the manager if you listen to his interviews.we did not allow Ipswich to play our passing and pressing stopped them for most of the game,thats why they they looked disappointingyes we missed chances but that was nothing to do with how we set up,you said we set up not to concede goals,I hope we set up to do that way every matchfrom what I,ve seen and that is every game this season,Darren moore is improving this team week by week we have a great chance of top six and maybe more,That awkward moment when two people keep trying to quote each other in a discussion and neither of them have a f-ing clue how to do it
You would have thought, by now, that we’d all know better than question what the manager is doing and why he is not selecting a, b or c!We’ve played 6 games and some have been against (so-called) fancied teams in this league and guess what - we are unbeaten! Thank goodness the manager is picking who he thinks is right for a particular game.I fully appreciate this forum is for us to discuss players and tactics, etc, etc, but nobody can fault what the main man has achieved so far, despite us not acquiring all the ‘tools’ that DM wanted to complete his squad. With the 3 points that the EFL should be awarding us, coupled with (what could have been) an away win at Bury, we’d be sat proudly on top of the league. Whilst we don’t get anything for being top midway through September, it would have put some perspective on what Darren Moore has done, in such a relatively short period of time. I sincerely hope this is an indicator of what is yet to come, given the upwardly mobile form our performance curve is looking right now.