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5 on Tour

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Re: Bully
« Reply #30 on October 31, 2019, 04:08:55 pm by 5 on Tour »
5 on Tour had someone else reported the guy to SLO
The more I read this the it winds me up having started last season taking my young un

I think Dean was only sat 2 rows in front. Once it reached the point of being loud enough he was straight to the guy.



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redarmy82

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Re: Bully
« Reply #31 on October 31, 2019, 04:37:26 pm by redarmy82 »
So, what was said exactly?

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Re: Bully
« Reply #32 on October 31, 2019, 04:51:11 pm by IDM »
Why does that matter.?

The SLO was there and dealt with it, so what was said clearly warranted some intervention.

What the words were, is not relevant..

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Re: Bully
« Reply #33 on October 31, 2019, 05:17:59 pm by knockers »
So if the SLO dealt with it why have we had this thread?

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Re: Bully
« Reply #34 on October 31, 2019, 05:28:39 pm by IDM »
My guess is exasperation and disbelief that it happened in the first place.?

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Re: Bully
« Reply #35 on October 31, 2019, 06:35:34 pm by 5 on Tour »
So, what was said exactly?

What difference does it make to you? You’re just looking for something else to argue about. Bore off.

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Re: Bully
« Reply #36 on October 31, 2019, 06:36:51 pm by 5 on Tour »
So if the SLO dealt with it why have we had this thread?

The SLO dealt with the incident. Not the attitude or personality of the individual.

I swear people just look for something to argue about rather than actually reading a thread.

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« Reply #37 on October 31, 2019, 07:18:37 pm by sheffield exile1 »
So if the SLO dealt with it why have we had this thread?

The SLO dealt with the incident. Not the attitude or personality of the individual.

I swear people just look for something to argue about rather than actually reading a thread.

Allelujeah! My EXACT point on Satdi....too many doing this as a repeat I fear to get it solved...

redarmy82

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Re: Bully
« Reply #38 on October 31, 2019, 07:36:09 pm by redarmy82 »
So, what was said exactly?

What difference does it make to you? You’re just looking for something else to argue about. Bore off.

Makes a difference as there's clearly only one side of the events being discussed. And the fact you're not willing to to say what this guy has actually said, only makes the whole story seem more questionable.


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Re: Bully
« Reply #39 on October 31, 2019, 07:43:00 pm by IDM »
No it doesn’t..

Only in your eyes maybe..

If someone has behaved in a way reported to have been having a go at young children, and which was dealt with at the time by the SLO, why do you think you need to question it.?

Do you advocate grown men having a pop at kids, regardless of any provocation.?

I expect you think it was OK not to act against the idiot who gozzed on a young ball boy at Bristol last season, because he may have been provoked into it.?

Maybe you should go watch Frozen..

redarmy82

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Re: Bully
« Reply #40 on October 31, 2019, 07:49:05 pm by redarmy82 »
No it doesn’t..

Only in your eyes maybe..

If someone has behaved in a way reported to have been having a go at young children, and which was dealt with at the time by the SLO, why do you think you need to question it.?

Do you advocate grown men having a pop at kids, regardless of any provocation.?

I expect you think it was OK not to act against the idiot who gozzed on a young ball boy at Bristol last season, because he may have been provoked into it.?

Maybe you should go watch Frozen..

Like I said, I've seen young kids hurl abuse at an older man, who was probably not mentally capable of restraining his reactions. Who's to say the same didn't happen here?

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Re: Bully
« Reply #41 on October 31, 2019, 07:55:28 pm by IDM »
Keep digging..

It has been said on this thread that the kid may have been with his grandad perhaps.  If a kid was teasing an adult who according to you may be lacking in mental capabilities, then his grandad would have intervened.

Had a group of teenagers trying to be “hard” by mocking an adult, then other adults nearby may have acted or at least ushered the adult to a different area.

None of that is reported to have happened here..

What can’t you accept what happened as reported.?

redarmy82

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Re: Bully
« Reply #42 on October 31, 2019, 08:20:17 pm by redarmy82 »
Keep digging..

It has been said on this thread that the kid may have been with his grandad perhaps.  If a kid was teasing an adult who according to you may be lacking in mental capabilities, then his grandad would have intervened.

Had a group of teenagers trying to be “hard” by mocking an adult, then other adults nearby may have acted or at least ushered the adult to a different area.

None of that is reported to have happened here..

What can’t you accept what happened as reported.?

What has been reported is that an elderly guy towards the end of the game has started hurling abuse at a youngster randomly and fir no reason, with the poster saying he'd have used physical violence as a means to combat this.

I don't buy it. There's more to it.

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« Reply #43 on October 31, 2019, 08:23:37 pm by IDM »
Wasn’t it also said that the kid was about 8 years old.?

There is no excuse for an adult to have a go at a child that age.

Let it go.

Unless it was you.?

redarmy82

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Re: Bully
« Reply #44 on October 31, 2019, 08:25:17 pm by redarmy82 »
Was it one child or several? The original posts refers to them as plural, so more than one child.


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Re: Bully
« Reply #45 on October 31, 2019, 08:28:16 pm by roversdude »
Oh that makes it ok then ......not

redarmy82

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Re: Bully
« Reply #46 on October 31, 2019, 08:30:49 pm by redarmy82 »
Agai, it depends on the circumstances of all parties involved, and what was said. We know neither.

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« Reply #47 on October 31, 2019, 08:31:37 pm by keith79 »
Redarmy don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. The old man was wrong. End off

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« Reply #48 on October 31, 2019, 08:35:28 pm by redarmy82 »
Redarmy don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. The old man was wrong. End off

People on here are laughable.
As I said I saw an old bloke insulted and abused by young kids for a whole game, in the end he flipped and lost his shit with them.
try being an old gent, probably suffering with various illnesses and putting up with that.

The original poster has said he'd have made sure the guy would never speak again. I bet that makes him feel proper hard.

He cannot bsck up his story with any actual evidence, or a verbatim of what was said. I think that explains it all.

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« Reply #49 on October 31, 2019, 08:41:05 pm by IDM »
And still you have nothing, absolutely noting to support a CHILD.

Why should he give you any more evidence, he was there, you weren’t.. unless it was you.  And the SLO dealt with it.

What’s the other incident got to do with it.?

And anyway, assuming all the people were sat there all game, then if there had been any kids abusing the old man, then the OP would have witnessed that too, and said so..

Looks like you’re on your own with your bizarre opinions.

What was your previous user name on here.?

redarmy82

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« Reply #50 on October 31, 2019, 08:45:41 pm by redarmy82 »
And still you have nothing, absolutely noting to support a CHILD.

Why should he give you any more evidence, he was there, you weren’t.. unless it was you.  And the SLO dealt with it.

What’s the other incident got to do with it.?

And anyway, assuming all the people were sat there all game, then if there had been any kids abusing the old man, then the OP would have witnessed that too, and said so..

Looks like you’re on your own with your bizarre opinions.

What was your previous user name on here.?

I've never had a previous username.

If the incident was as bad as being made out, then it would have required more than an SLO dealing with it.

Still, begs the question why the threats of physical violence are necessary. And if the OP had been true to his threat and carried out said act, he'd have wound up with a criminal record and a court appearance!
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Re: Bully
« Reply #51 on October 31, 2019, 08:49:32 pm by IDM »
If you actually read the OP that was only related  to if it had been his child.  Whether he would have gone through with it is something only he will know, and yes he would have had to face the consequences.

Why isn’t it reasonable for the SLO to deal with it.?

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« Reply #52 on October 31, 2019, 08:52:13 pm by redarmy82 »
If you actually read the OP that was only related  to if it had been his child.  Whether he would have gone through with it is something only he will know, and yes he would have had to face the consequences.

Why isn’t it reasonable for the SLO to deal with it.?

Because if it played out as suggested, I'd expect the bloke to be escorted out by a steward and never to return.

As said countless times, I've witnessed a similar scenario and I'm interested as to whh the bloke has kicked off the way he has, if he has.

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« Reply #53 on October 31, 2019, 08:58:21 pm by IDM »
Why add “if he has” at the end?

Now you are doubting this even happened..

You have no consideration for a child being verbally attacked by a stranger.  As someone else said, that says more about you..

Forum readers can make of this what they will, I’m out, before I say something that will get me banned..

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Re: Bully
« Reply #54 on October 31, 2019, 09:24:03 pm by redarmy82 »
Aye, let's leave it there shall we.

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« Reply #55 on October 31, 2019, 10:36:15 pm by 5 on Tour »
If you actually read the OP that was only related  to if it had been his child.  Whether he would have gone through with it is something only he will know, and yes he would have had to face the consequences.

Why isn’t it reasonable for the SLO to deal with it.?

Because if it played out as suggested, I'd expect the bloke to be escorted out by a steward and never to return.

As said countless times, I've witnessed a similar scenario and I'm interested as to whh the bloke has kicked off the way he has, if he has.

“If he has”... really? So I got home on Tuesday night and thought hey, I know what would be an utterly hilarious thread?! Are you for real?

If you read what was written - something apparently beyond you - I said if it had been my child. I think most people would do whatever they had to protect their own children from any form of intimidation from an adult. Or do you think the only protection should be afforded to the adult? As apparently you have no understanding or comprehension of the behaviour adults should display towards children. I assume that if a child mouths off at you then you have the right to say or do whatever you wish yes? Yet an adult defending their own children should be given a criminal record?

Every statement you had made completely sums you up as a grown male. I’m not using the term man for a very good reason here and that’s because you don’t know what makes one. You quite clearly think any aggressive behaviour towards a minor is acceptable.

You do not need to know what was said. Or why it was said. You know why? Because you didn’t read the original post. Do you know this guy? Are you this guy? If the answer to both is no then go away as you can’t help with the point of this thread. Instead you have used this as an attempted opportunity to try and defend the indefensible. In the process you have shown yourself to be what you really are and that is a narrow minded fool. You have shown concern only for the adult here and not the child - regardless of the situation you don’t seem to be able to grasp what is acceptable behaviour for an adult.

You evidently don’t have kids and based on your lack of both empathy and sympathy here I sincerely hope that if/when you do you have done some serious growing up!

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« Reply #56 on November 01, 2019, 07:12:34 am by redarmy82 »
If you actually read the OP that was only related  to if it had been his child.  Whether he would have gone through with it is something only he will know, and yes he would have had to face the consequences.

Why isn’t it reasonable for the SLO to deal with it.?

Because if it played out as suggested, I'd expect the bloke to be escorted out by a steward and never to return.

As said countless times, I've witnessed a similar scenario and I'm interested as to whh the bloke has kicked off the way he has, if he has.

“If he has”... really? So I got home on Tuesday night and thought hey, I know what would be an utterly hilarious thread?! Are you for real?

If you read what was written - something apparently beyond you - I said if it had been my child. I think most people would do whatever they had to protect their own children from any form of intimidation from an adult. Or do you think the only protection should be afforded to the adult? As apparently you have no understanding or comprehension of the behaviour adults should display towards children. I assume that if a child mouths off at you then you have the right to say or do whatever you wish yes? Yet an adult defending their own children should be given a criminal record?

Every statement you had made completely sums you up as a grown male. I’m not using the term man for a very good reason here and that’s because you don’t know what makes one. You quite clearly think any aggressive behaviour towards a minor is acceptable.

You do not need to know what was said. Or why it was said. You know why? Because you didn’t read the original post. Do you know this guy? Are you this guy? If the answer to both is no then go away as you can’t help with the point of this thread. Instead you have used this as an attempted opportunity to try and defend the indefensible. In the process you have shown yourself to be what you really are and that is a narrow minded fool. You have shown concern only for the adult here and not the child - regardless of the situation you don’t seem to be able to grasp what is acceptable behaviour for an adult.

You evidently don’t have kids and based on your lack of both empathy and sympathy here I sincerely hope that if/when you do you have done some serious growing up!

You seem very highly strung. Go and chil out for a bit. You're clearly incapable of seeing the point I was making, or unwilling to tell the full story, so resort to personal insults.

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Re: Bully
« Reply #57 on November 01, 2019, 08:22:27 am by 5 on Tour »
If you actually read the OP that was only related  to if it had been his child.  Whether he would have gone through with it is something only he will know, and yes he would have had to face the consequences.

Why isn’t it reasonable for the SLO to deal with it.?

Because if it played out as suggested, I'd expect the bloke to be escorted out by a steward and never to return.

As said countless times, I've witnessed a similar scenario and I'm interested as to whh the bloke has kicked off the way he has, if he has.

“If he has”... really? So I got home on Tuesday night and thought hey, I know what would be an utterly hilarious thread?! Are you for real?

If you read what was written - something apparently beyond you - I said if it had been my child. I think most people would do whatever they had to protect their own children from any form of intimidation from an adult. Or do you think the only protection should be afforded to the adult? As apparently you have no understanding or comprehension of the behaviour adults should display towards children. I assume that if a child mouths off at you then you have the right to say or do whatever you wish yes? Yet an adult defending their own children should be given a criminal record?

Every statement you had made completely sums you up as a grown male. I’m not using the term man for a very good reason here and that’s because you don’t know what makes one. You quite clearly think any aggressive behaviour towards a minor is acceptable.

You do not need to know what was said. Or why it was said. You know why? Because you didn’t read the original post. Do you know this guy? Are you this guy? If the answer to both is no then go away as you can’t help with the point of this thread. Instead you have used this as an attempted opportunity to try and defend the indefensible. In the process you have shown yourself to be what you really are and that is a narrow minded fool. You have shown concern only for the adult here and not the child - regardless of the situation you don’t seem to be able to grasp what is acceptable behaviour for an adult.

You evidently don’t have kids and based on your lack of both empathy and sympathy here I sincerely hope that if/when you do you have done some serious growing up!

You seem very highly strung. Go and chil out for a bit. You're clearly incapable of seeing the point I was making, or unwilling to tell the full story, so resort to personal insults.

Haha. Yes I should chill. You are aware you haven’t made any points right?

Lastly, as I’m done talking to you, I didn’t insult you. Not one thing I said was insulting. I may have stated the obvious a few too many times for your liking but such is life. Have a wonderful day. Don’t forget to ignore any injustices you see.

redarmy82

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Re: Bully
« Reply #58 on November 01, 2019, 09:04:08 am by redarmy82 »
Look, let’s draw a line under this, I feel it has been blown out of proportion, and if the way I’ve posted has been taken out of context then I apologise.

The only point I was trying to make is that I’ve seen a similar situation before, and what had happened throughout the game had caused someone to react a certain way, rightly or wrongly.


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Re: Bully
« Reply #59 on November 01, 2019, 09:20:22 am by IDM »
Accepted..

There’s football tomorrow.!

 

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