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steve@dcfd

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Kiwomya and Blaney
« on February 07, 2020, 07:09:51 pm by steve@dcfd »
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Alan Southstand

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #1 on February 07, 2020, 08:04:28 pm by Alan Southstand »
I think that maybe the last we see of both. Although, if Chorley deem Kiwomya not good enough, he may return, if only to empty his locker!

Blaney has improved this year and was given the captain’s armband for the u23’s, but I wonder if DM has others in mind.

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« Reply #2 on February 07, 2020, 08:06:25 pm by anton123 »
Could be a good move for Blaney get some first team football could do him good

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« Reply #3 on February 07, 2020, 08:08:56 pm by Campsall rover »
I think that maybe the last we see of both. Although, if Chorley deem Kiwomya not good enough, he may return, if only to empty his locker!

Blaney has improved this year and was given the captain’s armband for the u23’s, but I wonder if DM has others in mind.
I think we should hold on to Blaney. Going to be a good player. Just gone to get regular game time i suspect & i do think DM will want him as part of the 1st team squad next season.
Don’t forget we may not have Cameron John next season.

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #4 on February 07, 2020, 08:16:57 pm by drfchound »
We might not have any of the loans next season.

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #5 on February 07, 2020, 08:20:48 pm by Alan Southstand »
We might not have any of our existing loans, hound, but that’s not the impression I’ve got from Liam Hoden’s thoughts in his recent Q&A piece.

I think loans will be part of our squad for a few seasons yet.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #6 on February 07, 2020, 08:25:21 pm by steve@dcfd »
I can’t see Blaney or Kiwomya being here next season neither will be offered a contract along with a few more. Like our team they will be moving on.

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« Reply #7 on February 07, 2020, 08:30:17 pm by IDM »
What makes you think Blaney will be moving on, he’s still a development player isn’t he.?

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« Reply #8 on February 07, 2020, 08:34:31 pm by NickDRFC »
We might not have any of our existing loans, hound, but that’s not the impression I’ve got from Liam Hoden’s thoughts in his recent Q&A piece.

I think loans will be part of our squad for a few seasons yet.

Just like every other club in the football league then!

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« Reply #9 on February 07, 2020, 08:47:39 pm by Campsall rover »
We might not have any of our existing loans, hound, but that’s not the impression I’ve got from Liam Hoden’s thoughts in his recent Q&A piece.

I think loans will be part of our squad for a few seasons yet.

Just like every other club in the football league then!
Exactly. What people have against loans is beyond me. Part of modern day football.
Financially sense for both clubs and beneficial to the players. It’s a win win as far as i can see.

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #10 on February 07, 2020, 08:52:47 pm by drfchound »
We might not have any of our existing loans, hound, but that’s not the impression I’ve got from Liam Hoden’s thoughts in his recent Q&A piece.

I think loans will be part of our squad for a few seasons yet.





Alan,I think it is obvious that I was speaking about our existing loans when I said we might not have any of THE loans following the post that said we might not have Cameron John next season.
I have said often enough on here that clubs in the lower divisions rely heavily on loan players.

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« Reply #11 on February 08, 2020, 09:22:43 am by ravenrover »
I have no problems sending players out on loan however the one I do have issues with is loans to teams in the same league, particularly in the Prem. Henderson at the Blades is one that really annoys, me on loan from Man Utd

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« Reply #12 on February 08, 2020, 09:32:01 am by IDM »
Why is that a problem, just curious to know.?  There’s only two games in the season that such a loanee won’t be able to play against his parent club.

Maybe in the case of Henderson,  perhaps Manchester Utd didn’t think that the Blades would be a close rival in the league, but that by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals and as such be a win win for both clubs and for the player.?

To me it’s no different to transfers between same division clubs..

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #13 on February 08, 2020, 10:01:11 am by NickDRFC »
Why is that a problem, just curious to know.?  There’s only two games in the season that such a loanee won’t be able to play against his parent club.

Maybe in the case of Henderson,  perhaps Manchester Utd didn’t think that the Blades would be a close rival in the league, but that by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals and as such be a win win for both clubs and for the player.?

To me it’s no different to transfers between same division clubs..

“ by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals”

That’s the bit I don’t like. Man Utd can afford to stockpile players and then loan them out to further benefit themselves where someone like Henderson can play against every other club but not themselves. I don’t think that’s fair.

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #14 on February 08, 2020, 10:05:36 am by Chris Black come back »
Think it is all a relative question. Our strategy is to build up 23s squad to push on first team. A load of those will be loaned out (as now) just that most of our loanees will go to non league. Most of Man Utd loanees will not be to EPL.

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« Reply #15 on February 08, 2020, 10:06:43 am by IDM »
Have to agree to disagree Nick - might be a stronger argument if one club loans 4 or 5 players to the same team and therefore has a far greater influence on the division through the season by doing so, but not the odd player here and there.?

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« Reply #16 on February 08, 2020, 11:50:29 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Why is that a problem, just curious to know.?  There’s only two games in the season that such a loanee won’t be able to play against his parent club.

Maybe in the case of Henderson,  perhaps Manchester Utd didn’t think that the Blades would be a close rival in the league, but that by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals and as such be a win win for both clubs and for the player.?

To me it’s no different to transfers between same division clubs..

“ by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals”

That’s the bit I don’t like. Man Utd can afford to stockpile players and then loan them out to further benefit themselves where someone like Henderson can play against every other club but not themselves. I don’t think that’s fair.

But if that was the big nefarious plan, it's backfired spectacularly, given that Sheff Utd are one of two or three rivals that Man U have for a European spot.

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #17 on February 08, 2020, 12:07:51 pm by ravenrover »
Why is that a problem, just curious to know.?  There’s only two games in the season that such a loanee won’t be able to play against his parent club.

Maybe in the case of Henderson,  perhaps Manchester Utd didn’t think that the Blades would be a close rival in the league, but that by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals and as such be a win win for both clubs and for the player.?

To me it’s no different to transfers between same division clubs..
Apart from the mistake against Liverpool Henderson has proved himself to be a top quality keeper. How many points in a season could be attributed to a keeper making consistently good saves, rather than a player in any other position,  keeping their team in the game be it in a winning or drawing position?
He cannot play against his own parent club, wrong in any case in my opinion, but can play against every other team. Henderson would probably be 1st choice at any number of Prem teams but not Man Utd. The goal keeping position is vital, as we have seen at DRFC, in a defence and can consistently save and win points.
I use Henderson as my pet hate but I disagree with any loans in the same division, by all means sell players to other teams in same league but not loan

IDM

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« Reply #18 on February 08, 2020, 12:16:23 pm by IDM »
Fair enough but I still disagree..

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« Reply #19 on February 08, 2020, 05:21:55 pm by albie »
Blaney sent off playing for Blyth at Chester today.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #20 on February 08, 2020, 11:43:10 pm by steve@dcfd »
Blaney sent off playing for Blyth at Chester today.
I bet he dived in and went to the floor.

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Re: Kiwomya and Blaney
« Reply #21 on February 09, 2020, 08:39:51 am by DRNaith »
Why is that a problem, just curious to know.?  There’s only two games in the season that such a loanee won’t be able to play against his parent club.

Maybe in the case of Henderson,  perhaps Manchester Utd didn’t think that the Blades would be a close rival in the league, but that by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals and as such be a win win for both clubs and for the player.?

To me it’s no different to transfers between same division clubs..

“ by loaning him to Sheffield then potentially Sheffield could get better results against Man Utd’s closer rivals”

That’s the bit I don’t like. Man Utd can afford to stockpile players and then loan them out to further benefit themselves where someone like Henderson can play against every other club but not themselves. I don’t think that’s fair.

But if that was the big nefarious plan, it's backfired spectacularly, given that Sheff Utd are one of two or three rivals that Man U have for a European spot.

It hasn't necessarily backfired if at the end of the season there are teams behind Man Utd, who are within 6 points of them, who Sheffield United beat home and away, for example.

 

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