Out of contract players

[Draytonian III]

There’s certain players in the Championship like Taylor at Charlton and Ayala at Middlesbrough refusing to play in their respective clubs fixtures until the end of June when there contracts run out. If you refused to work in the “normal “ way of life you break your contract and get sacked, I know this is what certain players want to do but there must be a way taking the players to court. I seem to remember a Premiership player saying if they make me play “I’ll score an own goal and not try” .

[NewDonny]

There’s certain players in the Championship like Taylor at Charlton and Ayala at Middlesbrough refusing to play in their respective clubs fixtures until the end of June when there contracts run out. If you refused to work in the “normal “ way of life you break your contract and get sacked, I know this is what certain players want to do but there must be a way taking the players to court. I seem to remember a Premiership player saying if they make me play “I’ll score an own goal and not try” .

Whilst I agree to a certain extent with your points of view, your post does not give the complete picture. Yes these players are under contract still, however in any other season the league fixtures and playoffs would be long finished and these players would effectively be winding down from their existing contract. These guys have literally less than 2 weeks left on their contract. Personally, if it was me, I would want to play, but it's not me but I do have sympathy for players in this predicament.

Your post also raises another interesting point. You raise the fact, quite rightly as well, that in any other walk of like you would be in breach of contract were you to refuse to work whilst still under contract. Surely the same attitude should apply to Grant McCann, stay with me I will explain. There are far too many people on here eager for him to fail because he left and went to Hull. However as with your analogy about comparing players not wanting to play, what would happen were the likes of you or I to do that in our jobs of work. Should the same logic apply.

Most of us are in jobs of work and are under contract to our employers. If we get approached by a competitor or an other company that gives us the opportunity to better our selves financially and or challenge ourselves to see how far we can go, we WOULD ALL seriously consider it and doubtless be tempted or take up the offer. So my question is, why is it any different for Grant McCann, why should he not see how high he can go, why should he not take a better wage packet if its on the table?

Personally I have absolutely no interest in Hull City or what Grant McCann does, but equally I do get a little bit exasperated with some of the comments towards him on here and on twitter at times.

[NickDRFC]

Surely it’ll be pretty straightforward, they just won’t be paid for the last 2-3 weeks or whatever it is of their contract.

[Alan Southstand]

I don’t think anyone has an issue with any manager/coach wanting to better themselves, but there’s a way to do it and then there’s the GM way!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I think Taylor changed his mind didn't he?

Whatever mitigating stances you come up with, it's a terrible indictment on footballers these days and a big two fingers up to the clubs and the fans who have supported the players to get to the position they're in, particularly at their time of need.

If I was from the club who were in for said players, I'd withdraw the offers on the basis that I don't want players like that at my club, I want players who are willing to give everything for the club no matter what.

[Draytonian III]

I agree totally with people leaving their jobs to better themselves but if you put your notice in to leave you have to work until the employer says not to ie gardening leave, but if you refuse to work don’t expect to get paid or any other bonuses

[NewDonny]

I agree totally with people leaving their jobs to better themselves but if you put your notice in to leave you have to work until the employer says not to ie gardening leave, but if you refuse to work don’t expect to get paid or any other bonuses

Agreed, I guess my points were two fold though - a player refusing to play now with less than two weeks left on his contract is trying to a case of self preservation in the event that should the get injured, even seriously injured, then no club is then likely to sign him and then he has no income stream and despite what everyone on here thinks, players in Div 1 & 2 are on a wage just like you and I, a lot of them being on wages very similar to the average man on the street. The other point about bettering yourself was a point about McCann and him moving up to test himself and improve his earnings, nothing about contracts. As I understand it DRFC gave permission for him to speak with Hull so no contract conflicts there.

[RoversAlias]

McCann preached loyalty about his players then turned around and left us less than a month later for the first job that came his way. He proved himself a hypocrite and treated us with contempt. Pretty much nobody from the club had a good word to say about him when he went.

For all that and more, he will be disliked by the majority of Rovers fans for a long time I imagine.

[IDM]

He said players who didn’t want to be here could leave.  He left us when Hull came knocking, within days.  In my opinion he only practiced what he preached.

However what irks was the timing of his departure having disposed of several leading players with little recruitment.

[Draytonian III]

I started this thread about issues that in the news at the minute not something that happened a year ago, but if you want to hijack it and drag something up again from a year feel free .

[NewDonny]

I started this thread about issues that in the news at the minute not something that happened a year ago, but if you want to hijack it and drag something up again from a year feel free .

Actually my responses have been on topic if you read them properly, even the McCann reference, as that's contract related which you originally responded to.

Back to players refusing to play then, personally I can understand them doing it. However, if I was I was player now and in their position though I would want to play, but I'm not them am I.

[NewDonny]

McCann preached loyalty about his players then turned around and left us less than a month later for the first job that came his way. He proved himself a hypocrite and treated us with contempt. Pretty much nobody from the club had a good word to say about him when he went.

For all that and more, he will be disliked by the majority of Rovers fans for a long time I imagine.

I understand entirely what you are saying and agree it looks bad, however when you break it down I am not sure its as bad as it sounds or looks. He was under pressure to reduce a significant wage bill and was trying to retain players who's contracts were up on lower wages to fit his new budget for the coming season without impacting the quality of the squad. I am not sure that leaving DRFC was on his radar tbh, I might be wrong. The approach from Hull City came later.

[IDM]

I started this thread about issues that in the news at the minute not something that happened a year ago, but if you want to hijack it and drag something up again from a year feel free .

I didn’t bring GM into the thread, just followed a previous point raised.  Threads do wander whether we want them to or not.