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BVB

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Butler’s tactics / formation
« on March 01, 2021, 10:36:16 am by BVB »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.



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Dare to dream!

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« Reply #1 on March 01, 2021, 10:40:23 am by Dare to dream! »
Would imagine the best strategy would be to get through the end of the season by motivating them and keeping things the same.

He can then build his own team next season.

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« Reply #2 on March 01, 2021, 10:41:44 am by DonnyOsmond »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.

To be fair a 4-4-1-1 is very similar to the 4-2-3-1 we play. Doesn't sound like he'll make too many changes, maybe like Ranieri with Leicester.

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« Reply #3 on March 01, 2021, 11:53:56 am by Arsenal Of The North »
I’d imagine he will assess what best formation he has with the team at his disposal, it’s easy to say he will mimic what he does at belles but if the belles strongest asset is fast wingers he will
Utilise that, it would be pointless to have that formation if we have lads that aren’t fast on wings.

Not saying we don’t, but what I’m trying to say is, it will be based upon the ability of his squad how he wants to set his teams up, until he had the chance to build his own team. 

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« Reply #4 on March 01, 2021, 12:03:19 pm by Campsall rover »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.

To be fair a 4-4-1-1 is very similar to the 4-2-3-1 we play. Doesn't sound like he'll make too many changes, maybe like Ranieri with Leicester.
Hope Butts gets Taylor running towards the byline with the ball. Now that would be a good start.

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« Reply #5 on March 01, 2021, 12:29:34 pm by swintonrover »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.

That is a formation that takes me back to the late 90s early 00s, and I am very much in favour of it.

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« Reply #6 on March 01, 2021, 12:35:21 pm by phil o sophical »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.

To be fair a 4-4-1-1 is very similar to the 4-2-3-1 we play. Doesn't sound like he'll make too many changes, maybe like Ranieri with Leicester.
Hope Butts gets Taylor running towards the byline with the ball. Now that would be a good start.

and hopefully the net phase after that would be to get the ball into the box to give the strikers a bit of service

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« Reply #7 on March 01, 2021, 01:00:41 pm by ravenrover »
4-1-3-2 with Bostock the 1 in front of the back 4. We surely don't need two holding players. Let's put some pressure on opposition defences with a 2 up front

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« Reply #8 on March 01, 2021, 02:09:36 pm by Bailey Vickerage »
4-1-3-2 with Bostock the 1 in front of the back 4. We surely don't need two holding players. Let's put some pressure on opposition defences with a 2 up front
doesn’t matter who the manager I don’t think anyone would play 2 up front with the team we have. Only have 2 strikers fit and got too many midfielders.

Don’t think it will be too different formation wise tbf

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« Reply #9 on March 01, 2021, 02:25:14 pm by Superspy »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.

To be fair a 4-4-1-1 is very similar to the 4-2-3-1 we play. Doesn't sound like he'll make too many changes, maybe like Ranieri with Leicester.
Hope Butts gets Taylor running towards the byline with the ball. Now that would be a good start.

and hopefully the net phase after that would be to get the ball into the box to give the strikers a bit of service

You had me at "net phase".

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« Reply #10 on March 01, 2021, 03:28:05 pm by Lesonthewest »
If his tactics include pass it to the strikers, that'll do for me.

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« Reply #11 on March 01, 2021, 03:48:00 pm by phil o sophical »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.

To be fair a 4-4-1-1 is very similar to the 4-2-3-1 we play. Doesn't sound like he'll make too many changes, maybe like Ranieri with Leicester.
Hope Butts gets Taylor running towards the byline with the ball. Now that would be a good start.

and hopefully the net phase after that would be to get the ball into the box to give the strikers a bit of service

You had me at "net phase".

Good old sausage fingers. :facepalm: I think after the NEXT phase the "back of the net phase" would do nicely

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« Reply #12 on March 01, 2021, 05:06:28 pm by donnievic »
One good thing I think he will be giving copps more game time which we need,he hasn’t played a lot really and think that’s why he hasn’t shown more of what we know he can do like against hull

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« Reply #13 on March 01, 2021, 05:30:06 pm by since-1969 »
Will he pick himself?

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« Reply #14 on March 01, 2021, 05:31:12 pm by Superspy »
He's already announced retirement from playing.

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« Reply #15 on March 01, 2021, 07:05:31 pm by Getridorit »
From what I’ve seen with the Belles, AB used a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 system, with fast wingers / overlapping full backs getting to the byline. In midfield a cultured holding and passing cool head, an ankle-snapping tiger breaking up opp play, and two skilful and powerful attacking midfielders to support a constantly moving forward who played off the opp back line. Two towering centre backs.

In this way AB and NB worked with the players’ strengths. Be interesting to see what approach he now takes with Rovers.
Great insight, thanks.

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« Reply #16 on March 01, 2021, 07:12:14 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Fingers crossed AB can do a Penney and make a successful transition.

Would make a pleasant change and my oh my, do we deserve a change of luck!

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« Reply #17 on March 01, 2021, 07:59:03 pm by rover-n-out »
I'd like to see Butts push Bostock further forward, he's a bit to deep for my liking, I'd like to see him playing quick accurate balls into Bogle and Fej.

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« Reply #18 on March 01, 2021, 08:05:06 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Not so much about formation for me he probably won't want to change that too much. It's all about how we play. Need to be more flexible and play forward quicker. Also attacking and defending set plays need to be taken seriously we're very low on the list for both in the division. Easy improvements there to keep us in the playoffs

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« Reply #19 on March 01, 2021, 08:07:53 pm by Bessie Red »
From what I've been told he will be looking to press higher up the pitch and to look to move the ball forward alot quicker!


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« Reply #21 on March 02, 2021, 08:03:08 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
From what I've been told he will be looking to press higher up the pitch and to look to move the ball forward alot quicker!

Hope so.  Much less likely to concede from crosses etc with that method.

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« Reply #22 on March 02, 2021, 09:03:19 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
Good to hear but we have to be prepared for us to lose the ball when trying to execute getting the ball forward quicker. We've played that way on several occasions, with high energy but sometimes frustrating when balls go astray when we think we could be smarter and a bit more patient. It's a balance, but I think most of us will approve of a high energy game.

There's a couple of areas of the game that Butler has a chance to improve on very quickly. Get those more right than wrong and results can turn around very quickly.

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« Reply #23 on March 02, 2021, 09:17:09 am by EasyforDennis »
Well a start would be to stop the constant fannying about passing the ball back to the keeper and across the back four. How many times have we seem our full backs passing the ball back to the keeper from the half way line?

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« Reply #24 on March 02, 2021, 09:40:56 am by DonnyOsmond »
Well a start would be to stop the constant fannying about passing the ball back to the keeper and across the back four. How many times have we seem our full backs passing the ball back to the keeper from the half way line?

That's to get the other team to come forward and open up gaps to pass through when not much is on. It's a lot easier to pass through an open pitch than two banks of 4.

We just need to be quicker at getting from A to B so they don't have as long to get back in shape.

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« Reply #25 on March 02, 2021, 10:08:24 am by owen7 »
Can't see Butts changing the formation too much to be honest, the players know the formation. We've played it for the last season and a half, I just can't see him coming in and changing that with the best part of 20 games to go. He will have his own ideas on how to play in and out of possession which will be interesting to see.

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« Reply #26 on March 02, 2021, 04:40:44 pm by i_ateallthepies »
Well a start would be to stop the constant fannying about passing the ball back to the keeper and across the back four. How many times have we seem our full backs passing the ball back to the keeper from the half way line?

That's to get the other team to come forward and open up gaps to pass through when not much is on. It's a lot easier to pass through an open pitch than two banks of 4.

We just need to be quicker at getting from A to B so they don't have as long to get back in shape.

DO, that's been explained innumerable times it doesn't need saying again, the problem with it thought is that we weren't good at executing it.  Besides, we didn't need it before when we had Copps playing neat one-twos out on the wing to play around the opposition.

There's more ways to open up the opposition than fannying around playing 'to me to you' across the back line.

 

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