Scream of the Season?

[Wiltshire Exile]

Perfect, Kato! For me that just about sums up the difference between footballers and rugby players: no respect for the opposition, match officials but, more importantly, the laws of the the games. Most of this cheating could be stopped if the managers and coaches issued appropriate instructions. Methinks that I’m being too naive, surely? Can you imagine dinosaurs like Morinho, Allardyce, Pulis and Sheridan insisting on this?...me neither!

Mind you, Rugby Union will have to live with Bloodgate for many years to come: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/47882458

Absolutely right Wilts.  Mind you, Rugby Union has been 'sanitised' and is no longer the game it was when I played. Ball thrown straight into the Second Row at every scrum, (riles me most about the modern game as I was a, (rather good), Hooker back then, (was carried off playing against Hilmians following a deliberate kick in the nuts by one of their Props because, in his words after the game, I was winning too much ball against the head!). I'd have been penalised if I didn't release the ball immediately on being tackled to the ground - now it de requer to role over, face backwards and hold the ball out for the Scrum Half, (or whoever), to put their foot in front of it; and the opposition are no longer allowed to try to hook the ball back! The game is now more about kicking and penalties than it is about scoring tries - and don't get me started on that kicking contraption kickers use these days just to make their job easier!
 
Bloodgate was an absolute disgrace!
 
I guess all sports get sanitised over time, which IMO makes games less of a spectacle to both watch and play!. 

Nice one, Kato. I’ve learned more about rugby from this posting than I ever have by listening to Eddie Jones. Before that I struggled to tell the difference between a scrum and a line-out! 

I used to love the game.  Started playing senior rugby at the ripe old age of 15.  I used to play for the school team on a Saturday Morning and, initially, Don Valley Old Boys on a Saturday Afternoon, (and footballers complain about playing two games a week?). I then went on to be a founder member of Adwick-le-Street RUFC before moving to Coventry. When I started work, (in Leeds), I used to train four nights a week for Saturday's game.  Now I hardly watch the game! 

Sadly, Kato, that’s how I feel about football...hardly watched the game over the last couple of years. (Nothing to do with COVID). In the early ‘60’s I played for Branton Utd. in the Bentley and District League, before making the obvious decision that I was crap at playing the sport, so I took up refereeing! I got as far as the Alliance League line, (National League now), before I was told that my services were no longer required! I regularly watched/refereed 3 or more matches a week - mainly non-league- but the birth of Premier League football in 1992 was the start of my falling out of love with the game...beautiful game? Not now. I still follow the Rovers with a passion, though, and look forward to 3 points tonight!

[BobG]

I think the falling out of love is also linked to the Sky empire Wilts. For me at least it is too hyperbolic, too domineering and too often. it focusses on goals, not football, and it seeks to make drama out of nothing. And, worst of all, it pays so much money to the PL and FA that it owns them body and soul. The results of that are that neither control their own destiny, neither can set the date and times of matches as they wish so we are forced to endure a never ending procession of stupidly timed matches just to satisfy Sky's lust for advertisers dollars. The money has allowd the creation of first, second,  third and fourth classes of football, with very little real sustained movement between them and sod all attention paid to any outside the elite. The days of Coventry City and Sunderland winning the FA Cup, of another Leicester City winning the PL, of QPR finishing a very close second, are but memories. Money dominates, and it is a self perpetuating force. Over time that destroys faith in the game, it destroys competition, it destroys romance, and, worst of all, it destroys hope.

This isnt football. It's a money making scheme and an exercise in power and ego.

BobG

[Wiltshire Exile]

I think the falling out of love is also linked to the Sky empire Wilts. For me at least it is too hyperbolic, too domineering and too often. it focusses on goals, not football, and it seeks to make drama out of nothing. And, worst of all, it pays so much money to the PL and FA that it owns them body and soul. The results of that are that neither control their own destiny, neither can set the date and times of matches as they wish so we are forced to endure a never ending procession of stupidly timed matches just to satisfy Sky's lust for advertisers dollars. The money has allowd the creation of first, second,  third and fourth classes of football, with very little real sustained movement between them and sod all attention paid to any outside the elite. The days of Coventry City and Sunderland winning the FA Cup, of another Leicester City winning the PL, of QPR finishing a very close second, are but memories. Money dominates, and it is a self perpetuating force. Over time that destroys faith in the game, it destroys competition, it destroys romance, and, worst of all, it destroys hope.

This isnt football. It's a money making scheme and an exercise in power and ego.

BobG

Very well summed up, Bob. The last sentence says it all!

[RobTheRover]

Also, why do players limp when their suffering from a hand or an arm injury?

I smacked the point of my elbow on the corner of the oven door last night. Was curled up in a foetal position for 5 mins waiting for the pain to go away.

I'm glad you said that. Billy.  I dont feel quite so bad about sharing the absolute agony I was in this morning when scratching my back between the shoulder blades.  I thought I'd torn a deltoid!

[Not Now Kato]

Also, why do players limp when their suffering from a hand or an arm injury?

I smacked the point of my elbow on the corner of the oven door last night. Was curled up in a foetal position for 5 mins waiting for the pain to go away.

I'm glad you said that. Billy.  I dont feel quite so bad about sharing the absolute agony I was in this morning when scratching my back between the shoulder blades.  I thought I'd torn a deltoid!

Pha! Softies the pair of you.  I had a full knee replacement in 2019 and walked out of hospital the same day!

[drfchound]

Also, why do players limp when their suffering from a hand or an arm injury?

I smacked the point of my elbow on the corner of the oven door last night. Was curled up in a foetal position for 5 mins waiting for the pain to go away.

I'm glad you said that. Billy.  I dont feel quite so bad about sharing the absolute agony I was in this morning when scratching my back between the shoulder blades.  I thought I'd torn a deltoid!

Pha! Softies the pair of you.  I had a full knee replacement in 2019 and walked out of hospital the same day!

Pha. ‘Twas nothing but a scratch.

[Not Now Kato]

Also, why do players limp when their suffering from a hand or an arm injury?

I smacked the point of my elbow on the corner of the oven door last night. Was curled up in a foetal position for 5 mins waiting for the pain to go away.

I'm glad you said that. Billy.  I dont feel quite so bad about sharing the absolute agony I was in this morning when scratching my back between the shoulder blades.  I thought I'd torn a deltoid!

Pha! Softies the pair of you.  I had a full knee replacement in 2019 and walked out of hospital the same day!

Pha. ‘Twas nothing but a scratch.

Yep, a mere graze, didn't even need stitches, they just put some sticky tape over it....
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[idler]

That looks a bit poor NNK.
After my first full replacement it just looked as though someone had drawn a line down my leg with a red ball pen.
Two weeks later,  after my infection and second replacement it was more like yours with 20 odd staples in for good measure.

[Not Now Kato]

It was a new technique, pioneered by a hospital just outside Chesterfield, op in the morning and out the same evening.  Op was at 7 am and they had me standing on it within 2 hours and walking on it, (albeit only a few yards), within 4. Lots of physio and walking and by six o'clock in the evening I could walk twice the length of the ward with just wrist crutches so they sent for Lynn to come and take me home.  Looks worse in the photo than it was, and is now just a feint line.
 
Sorry to hear you got an infection in yours and had to have it redone, that couldn't have been any fun at all!

[idler]

It happens. I was lucky to keep my leg in the end so could have been much worse.
It was 2004 so I did miss Rovers away games at Oxford, Rochdale and Boston plus the Cambridge promotion clinching home game.