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[Sod This For a Laugh]

It was said that the board decided RW fate after our defeat to Crewe. I doubt we will get a result away at Wycombe. Which then brings Crewe to the Eco power. If Crewe beat Fleetwood at home this weekend and then turn us over we would be bottom of the league. Could the board have another rethink following this scenario.

[BigKeif]

For me, leave it with him until the end of the season now. There’s no point relieving him of his duties now because of our process in finding a new manager.

That said, the board need to start the process now for a new manager to be appointed when the season finishes, so they can look at the squad and get started on new players.

Just my opinion btw. I really wanted it to work for GMac but it’s just not working and there’s no identity other than hoofing the ball forward hopelessly. Something us fans don’t want but also the board said they don’t want.

[drfchound]

For me, leave it with him until the end of the season now. There’s no point relieving him of his duties now because of our process in finding a new manager.

That said, the board need to start the process now for a new manager to be appointed when the season finishes, so they can look at the squad and get started on new players.

Just my opinion btw. I really wanted it to work for GMac but it’s just not working and there’s no identity other than hoofing the ball forward hopelessly. Something us fans don’t want but also the board said they don’t want.

  Apart from the first paragraph.   I suggested this a few days ago.

[steve@dcfd]

Looking at the games left I can only see us getting three points against Crewe and no others. If we fail to do that then there’s no justification in GMC remaining as manager at the end of the season.

[Draytonian III]

If you look at the league table it would be better if Crewe did actually win this coming Saturday vs Fleetwood

[DonnyOsmond]

For me, leave it with him until the end of the season now. There’s no point relieving him of his duties now because of our process in finding a new manager.

That said, the board need to start the process now for a new manager to be appointed when the season finishes, so they can look at the squad and get started on new players.

Just my opinion btw. I really wanted it to work for GMac but it’s just not working and there’s no identity other than hoofing the ball forward hopelessly. Something us fans don’t want but also the board said they don’t want.

But on the other hand surely we'd want any new manager to be able to see what the players are like as early as possible, otherwise we'll have similar to Wellens being surprised that Cam John is a decent player midway into the new season.

[Canadian Rover]

But on the other hand surely we'd want any new manager to be able to see what the players are like as early as possible, otherwise we'll have similar to Wellens being surprised that Cam John is a decent player midway into the new season.
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Really good point.

[BigKeif]

For me, leave it with him until the end of the season now. There’s no point relieving him of his duties now because of our process in finding a new manager.

That said, the board need to start the process now for a new manager to be appointed when the season finishes, so they can look at the squad and get started on new players.

Just my opinion btw. I really wanted it to work for GMac but it’s just not working and there’s no identity other than hoofing the ball forward hopelessly. Something us fans don’t want but also the board said they don’t want.

But on the other hand surely we'd want any new manager to be able to see what the players are like as early as possible, otherwise we'll have similar to Wellens being surprised that Cam John is a decent player midway into the new season.

Good point DO but what could happen is, any prospective new manager could watch the final games and get to know the squad possibly?

I get your point though but we all know that even if we started the process now, we wouldn’t have a manager in place until the end of the season.

[DearneValleyRover]

My personal view is nothing will happen until the end of the season. For me it’s time we ditched the long laborious process of finding a manager and identify the one we want and go get them. Personally I would love Spike to get the job, proven he has the ability with what he’s done at Hartlepool and a strong character

[elmsallrover]

What's he done at hartlepool like

[DearneValleyRover]

What's he done at hartlepool like

Dragged them from near the bottom of League 2 to close to the playoffs, if he’d got the job earlier, Hartlepool would more than likely have made them. Clearly has the ability to turn things around

[drfchound]

For me, leave it with him until the end of the season now. There’s no point relieving him of his duties now because of our process in finding a new manager.

That said, the board need to start the process now for a new manager to be appointed when the season finishes, so they can look at the squad and get started on new players.

Just my opinion btw. I really wanted it to work for GMac but it’s just not working and there’s no identity other than hoofing the ball forward hopelessly. Something us fans don’t want but also the board said they don’t want.

But on the other hand surely we'd want any new manager to be able to see what the players are like as early as possible, otherwise we'll have similar to Wellens being surprised that Cam John is a decent player midway into the new season.

Good point DO but what could happen is, any prospective new manager could watch the final games and get to know the squad possibly?

I get your point though but we all know that even if we started the process now, we wouldn’t have a manager in place until the end of the season.

Keith, I can’t imagine that the 200 or so applicants that we always get would watch our games.
Although it might boost the attendances.
As I said previously, maybe Copps or Tommy Rowe could take over for the last few games.

[graingrover]

If we go down then we have yet another big squad rebuild as players like Cam John Anderson , Bostock would no doubt find league one clubs and perhaps Rowe would be transfered to a League one or Championship club .I can’t help comparing our lack of momentum to the head of steam of Stockport County and Wrexham whose squads will be raring to go in League two .

[BigKeif]

For me, leave it with him until the end of the season now. There’s no point relieving him of his duties now because of our process in finding a new manager.

That said, the board need to start the process now for a new manager to be appointed when the season finishes, so they can look at the squad and get started on new players.

Just my opinion btw. I really wanted it to work for GMac but it’s just not working and there’s no identity other than hoofing the ball forward hopelessly. Something us fans don’t want but also the board said they don’t want.

But on the other hand surely we'd want any new manager to be able to see what the players are like as early as possible, otherwise we'll have similar to Wellens being surprised that Cam John is a decent player midway into the new season.

Good point DO but what could happen is, any prospective new manager could watch the final games and get to know the squad possibly?

I get your point though but we all know that even if we started the process now, we wouldn’t have a manager in place until the end of the season.

Keith, I can’t imagine that the 200 or so applicants that we always get would watch our games.
Although it might boost the attendances.
As I said previously, maybe Copps or Tommy Rowe could take over for the last few games.

I get that Hound, like I said at first, just my opinion to keep GMac in till the end of the season. I’ll be honest, I can’t see a way out of the mess we’re in. It’s deep rooted and shown now for well over a year. Not sure who could turn things round at the minute.

[steve@dcfd]

If we go down then we have yet another big squad rebuild as players like Cam John Anderson , Bostock would no doubt find league one clubs and perhaps Rowe would be transfered to a League one or Championship club .I can’t help comparing our lack of momentum to the head of steam of Stockport County and Wrexham whose squads will be raring to go in League two .

Bothe will have more money to spend in players if they required.

[ravenrover]

Do you think a change of manager would make the players better overnight?

[Sammy Chung was King]

Our board take months to make a decision on a manager, the season would be over by the time they appointed someone, then it would be the physio or cleaner or something.
In my opinion with any other board I would say get someone in now. Coppinger as good a player as he was if he was appointed he would need more than Lee Carsley to help him. He would need a ROK or Sean at the side of him.

[scawsby steve]

If we go down then we have yet another big squad rebuild as players like Cam John Anderson , Bostock would no doubt find league one clubs and perhaps Rowe would be transfered to a League one or Championship club .I can’t help comparing our lack of momentum to the head of steam of Stockport County and Wrexham whose squads will be raring to go in League two .

As I said in another thread, Graing, Wrexham will probably still have a lot of work to do in the play-offs before they make League 2.

They might still not get there.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Unless we have a person in mind to go get then we should just get rid once it’s mathematically done and start taking applications then. Need someone in ahead of preseason.

Think Younger needs to go too so ideally we bring a new recruitment person in before end of the season too. Not likely to happed though. For what it’s worth we had a better record with signings before this role so maybe it’s not so crucial?

[ChrisBx]

Unless we have a person in mind to go get then we should just get rid once it’s mathematically done and start taking applications then. Need someone in ahead of preseason.

We'll piss about with an elongated application process rather than ever proactively headhunt someone.

[i_ateallthepies]

Unless we have a person in mind to go get then we should just get rid once it’s mathematically done and start taking applications then. Need someone in ahead of preseason.

We'll piss about with an elongated application process rather than ever proactively headhunt someone.

This I fear is exactly what will happen.

[Filo]

Our last four men in charge are all former players at the club, three have failed in spectacular fashion, the other shit on us from a great height, we need to stop sentiment getting in the way of rational decisions

[NickDRFC]

Our last four men in charge are all former players at the club, three have failed in spectacular fashion, the other shit on us from a great height, we need to stop sentiment getting in the way of rational decisions

They did, but I wouldn’t say that any of them got the job because of their standing as a player. Moore was the outstanding candidate with Premier League & Championship experience, Wellens had a decent amount of experience (albeit at League Two) and Butler & McSheffrey both held coaching positions already. Not saying any of them were the right choice but at least there was rationale behind the decisions beyond being former players. It’s also very easy to forget that McSheffrey even played for us.

[ravenrover]

Wasn't DM response as to why he took the job
I'm out of work and needed a job
Or something along those lines, perhaps the writing was on the wall then but no body read it

[Drover]

What's he done at hartlepool like

I agree with DearneValleyRover,He's done extremely well so far,aswell as climbing the table,he has extended 2 cup runs since taking the reins,beating 4 league one teams,including beating the Wendies 3-0 away in his first game and beating championship side Blackpool,the good cup runs only ended with losing on pens in EFL semi-final to Rotherham and 4th round of FA cup to Premier league Palace,2 teams who would probably hammer us at the moment.And he has got Omar Bogle playing in his team too.
Only thing is,I would not want to leave them to join us at the moment if I was him,plus Hartlepool close to his birthplace.

[Sammy Chung was King]

As a club we have to accept we are a stepping stone, for managers or players who do well, we’re we need to improve is having a list of managers or alternative players ,when they do leave. The other thing stop all this committee malarkey, and find one person who can pick a manager, preferably the guy who pays the wages. England used to have committees years ago to pick their sides, they worked so well that sometimes guys like Stanley Matthews couldn’t get in the side. Too many opinions lead to bad decisions.

The time for the manager and team talking about it has gone. Action is needed now, results. If we are going to go down, go down in guts and glory. Be the person that changes the game. Nobody thought we could beat Sunderland and a few others. It’s all in the players hands do they want to be failures or success stories?.