It is vital that Wrexham don't get promotion this season for obvious reasons

[Colemans Left Hook]

Assuming Stockport think they have already purchased a one way ticket to Division One  and if the above team make it into league football - then we will "presumably" have 2 serious contenders
and it could be target play offs for Rovers.

In that case it might be a good idea to check the play off and final dates before any amorous  "red jay" proposes to his fellow bird, or the wedding cake could end up in tears  (tiers !)

[since-1969]

Assuming Stockport think they have already purchased a one way ticket to Division One  and if the above team make it into league football - then we will "presumably" have 2 serious contenders
and it could be target play offs for Rovers.

In that case it might be a good idea to check the play off and final dates before any amorous  "red jay" proposes to his fellow bird, or the wedding cake could end up in tears  (tiers !)

. We first have to stay in L2 before we think again about L1 . Not looking to good with this set up !!

[PDX_Rover]

Assuming Stockport think they have already purchased a one way ticket to Division One  and if the above team make it into league football - then we will "presumably" have 2 serious contenders
and it could be target play offs for Rovers.

In that case it might be a good idea to check the play off and final dates before any amorous  "red jay" proposes to his fellow bird, or the wedding cake could end up in tears  (tiers !)

. We first have to stay in L2 before we think again about L1 . Not looking to good with this set up !!

Cretin. As usual.

[colincramb]

There’s 3 auto places in L2 as we all know. Zero reason to think 2 clubs that haven’t played league football for some time would have a better chance of promotion over a team that’s played league football at L1 level or above for most of the last 20 years. Ludicrous thinking really.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Non league sides build a momentum, we know that from our promotion. No reason why we can’t be better than them though.

[wilts rover]

Forest Green's owner is worth over £100m - how long has it taken them to get out of League 2?

A little bit of money spent wisely is much better than £millions wasted.

[since-1969]

Assuming Stockport think they have already purchased a one way ticket to Division One  and if the above team make it into league football - then we will "presumably" have 2 serious contenders
and it could be target play offs for Rovers.

In that case it might be a good idea to check the play off and final dates before any amorous  "red jay" proposes to his fellow bird, or the wedding cake could end up in tears  (tiers !)

. We first have to stay in L2 before we think again about L1 . Not looking to good with this set up !!

Cretin. As usual.

Just making a point .. let’s face it when we lost in the Playoffs a while ago I  now but the signs still seemed that were on forward momentum . Doh! 

[Campsall rover]

Assuming Stockport think they have already purchased a one way ticket to Division One  and if the above team make it into league football - then we will "presumably" have 2 serious contenders
and it could be target play offs for Rovers.

In that case it might be a good idea to check the play off and final dates before any amorous  "red jay" proposes to his fellow bird, or the wedding cake could end up in tears  (tiers !)

. We first have to stay in L2 before we think again about L1 . Not looking to good with this set up !!

Give it a rest 1969. 

Go support Scunny. You would be really happy there. Something seriously worth moaning about.
Right up your street. Marriage made in heaven.

[Campsall rover]

I do think both Stockport and Wrexham would be potentially at least top 7 next season if both do go up.

[RoversAlias]

There’s 3 auto places in L2 as we all know. Zero reason to think 2 clubs that haven’t played league football for some time would have a better chance of promotion over a team that’s played league football at L1 level or above for most of the last 20 years. Ludicrous thinking really.

The quality "gap" between League Two and the top teams in the National League is such that I'd say the best NL clubs are better than quite a few of the L2 bottom half, at least.

Wrexham and, to a lesser extent, Stockport are both very well financed clubs who will come up and immediately outspend the majority of League Two clubs, so CLH is right to suggest they will be contenders if they do come up.

We may be well resourced ourselves foe that level, but we cannot compete with Wrexham's financial clout that's for sure. Crewe and Wimbledon coming down will also not automatically be at the top end of the budgetary scale for the division either.

[VivaRovers]

Speak for yourself... I'm desperate for them to go up as it's my nearest ground in the English leagues. I've enjoyed Tranmere's loss of form for the same reason.

Fully aware I'm just jinxed this.

[Campsall rover]

Speak for yourself... I'm desperate for them to go up as it's my nearest ground in the English leagues. I've enjoyed Tranmere's loss of form for the same reason.

Fully aware I'm just jinxed this.

Really looking forward to going to both Edgeley Park and the Racecourse ground as it’s been a long time.
2 proper old fashioned football rounds.
So yes I hope they both go up.
If not Chesterfield, Notts county or Halifax will do nicely thank you.
Forgot Grimsby. They have a chance also.

[DRCraig]

7th gets a play off place. Surely we can at least target that.

[Campsall rover]

7th gets a play off place. Surely we can at least target that.

Target has to be top 3
If we look like doing that then Div 2 champions has to be the aim.

If we are champions we will be the only club ever to be champions of 3rd and 4th tier combined 8 times.
That is why I was particularly pee’d off with blowing the title under Fergie.

[Bristol Red Rover]

The target has to be building a squad that has some heart, ethos, strength and positiveness to go forward in higher leagues. If that takes a few years, so be it.

[since-1969]

Assuming Stockport think they have already purchased a one way ticket to Division One  and if the above team make it into league football - then we will "presumably" have 2 serious contenders
and it could be target play offs for Rovers.

In that case it might be a good idea to check the play off and final dates before any amorous  "red jay" proposes to his fellow bird, or the wedding cake could end up in tears  (tiers !)

. We first have to stay in L2 before we think again about L1 . Not looking to good with this set up !!

Give it a rest 1969. 

Go support Scunny. You would be really happy there. Something seriously worth moaning about.
Right up your street. Marriage made in heaven.

We’ll playing soon enough I suppose .

[Sammy Chung was King]

We need to build a squad that will serve us next season, and with a few additions also the league above-IF we are good enough to be promoted. We need minimal changes, a squad that knows each other inside out. That’s what we need to build towards.

[normal rules]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

[Campsall rover]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

We are not going any where near the National League. So don’t let it scare you.

But yes it is a very tough league. Don’t see Scunny coming out of it in the right direction any time soon.

The National league North is a tough league also.
Contains ex league clubs,  York, Chester, Darlington, Kidderminster, Hereford, Southport, Boston & Bradford P.A.
Not one of those has managed to get promoted in recent years.

[Campsall rover]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

11 ex league clubs.
Stockport, Wrexham, Halifax, Chesterfield, Notts C, Grimsby, Torquay, Yeovil, Southend, Barnet & Aldershot.

[normal rules]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

11 ex league clubs.
Stockport, Wrexham, Halifax, Chesterfield, Notts C, Grimsby, Torquay, Yeovil, Southend, Barnet & Aldershot.

I stand corrected. Scunny now added and possibly Oldham to boot.
They should call it league three. And have the same promotion/ relegation numbers.

Oh hang on, maybe not…….

[Campsall rover]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

11 ex league clubs.
Stockport, Wrexham, Halifax, Chesterfield, Notts C, Grimsby, Torquay, Yeovil, Southend, Barnet & Aldershot.

I stand corrected. Scunny now added and possibly Oldham to boot.
They should call it league three. And have the same promotion/ relegation numbers.

Oh hang on, maybe not…….

Oldham are relegated.

[DRCraig]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

11 ex league clubs.
Stockport, Wrexham, Halifax, Chesterfield, Notts C, Grimsby, Torquay, Yeovil, Southend, Barnet & Aldershot.

I stand corrected. Scunny now added and possibly Oldham to boot.
They should call it league three. And have the same promotion/ relegation numbers.

Oh hang on, maybe not…….

Oldham are relegated.

I don't think everybody knows they completed the game eventually.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Really sad to see Oldham go down. I remember as a kid the cup run they had, eventually Man Utd stopping them getting to the cup final.
Andy Ritchie, Frankie Bunn, Denis Irwin and our own Andy Rhodes. Whose mam got me all the autographs of that Oldham team when I was a kid. Andy didn’t play in many of them, Jon Hallworth replaced him.

Very strong non league scene. Definitely right to get the problems sorted out so we don’t drop into there. Though I loved the conference years, more enjoyable at times, but wouldn’t want to go back there.

Scunny face something they’ve never had before. Also a shame to see them struggling.
The premier league with Man City etc might be boring, but the lower leagues haven’t  been as strong for many a year.

[DRCraig]

Really sad to see Oldham go down. I remember as a kid the cup run they had, eventually Man Utd stopping them getting to the cup final.
Andy Ritchie, Frankie Bunn, Denis Irwin and our own Andy Rhodes. Whose mam got me all the autographs of that Oldham team when I was a kid. Andy didn’t play in many of them, Jon Hallworth replaced him.

Very strong non league scene. Definitely right to get the problems sorted out so we don’t drop into there. Though I loved the conference years, more enjoyable at times, but wouldn’t want to go back there.

Scunny face something they’ve never had before. Also a shame to see them struggling.
The premier league with Man City etc might be boring, but the lower leagues haven’t  been as strong for many a year.

Back then they were so unlucky to be relegated from the PL. So many matches crammed in because they were still the cup kings. They should have had their season extended. Did well for them 3 seasons in that division. I really, really admired them tbh.

[drfchound]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

We are not going any where near the National League. So don’t let it scare you.

But yes it is a very tough league. Don’t see Scunny coming out of it in the right direction any time soon.

The National league North is a tough league also.
Contains ex league clubs,  York, Chester, Darlington, Kidderminster, Hereford, Southport, Boston & Bradford P.A.
Not one of those has managed to get promoted in recent years.

You have missed Gateshead off that list too Camps.
They look like they might be promoted this year though.

[Campsall rover]

 

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

We are not going any where near the National League. So don’t let it scare you.

But yes it is a very tough league. Don’t see Scunny coming out of it in the right direction any time soon.

The National league North is a tough league also.
Contains ex league clubs,  York, Chester, Darlington, Kidderminster, Hereford, Southport, Boston & Bradford P.A.
Not one of those has managed to get promoted in recent years.

You have missed Gateshead off that list too Camps.
They look like they might be promoted this year though.

Yes forget they were a league club. You over 70 guys hound will remember better than me.
I was only about 6 when they went out of the league you were probably over 26 

[drfchound]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

We are not going any where near the National League. So don’t let it scare you.

But yes it is a very tough league. Don’t see Scunny coming out of it in the right direction any time soon.

The National league North is a tough league also.
Contains ex league clubs,  York, Chester, Darlington, Kidderminster, Hereford, Southport, Boston & Bradford P.A.
Not one of those has managed to get promoted in recent years.

You have missed Gateshead off that list too Camps.
They look like they might be promoted this year though.

Yes forget they were a league club. You over 70 guys hound will remember better than me.
I was only about 6 when they went out of the league you were probably over 26 

Good comeback mate but just so you know, I am not quite 70.

[Colemans Left Hook]

The national league is a scary place these days . 8 ex established league clubs in there.

We are not going any where near the National League. So don’t let it scare you.

But yes it is a very tough league. Don’t see Scunny coming out of it in the right direction any time soon.

The National league North is a tough league also.
Contains ex league clubs,  York, Chester, Darlington, Kidderminster, Hereford, Southport, Boston & Bradford P.A.
Not one of those has managed to get promoted in recent years.

You have missed Gateshead off that list too Camps.
They look like they might be promoted this year though.

Yes forget they were a league club. You over 70 guys hound will remember better than me.
I was only about 6 when they went out of the league you were probably over 26 

just found out when and WHY   ...... they got the same treatment as the Doncaster Belles

"Despite having a reasonable record in the Football League the club were voted out at the end of the 1959/60 season, being replaced by Peterborough United, although finishing above two other teams. After Gateshead were voted out of the League in 1960 they applied, unsuccessfully, to join the Scottish League." 

Berwick anyone ??

[Sammy Chung was King]

Really sad to see Oldham go down. I remember as a kid the cup run they had, eventually Man Utd stopping them getting to the cup final.
Andy Ritchie, Frankie Bunn, Denis Irwin and our own Andy Rhodes. Whose mam got me all the autographs of that Oldham team when I was a kid. Andy didn’t play in many of them, Jon Hallworth replaced him.

Very strong non league scene. Definitely right to get the problems sorted out so we don’t drop into there. Though I loved the conference years, more enjoyable at times, but wouldn’t want to go back there.

Scunny face something they’ve never had before. Also a shame to see them struggling.
The premier league with Man City etc might be boring, but the lower leagues haven’t  been as strong for many a year.

Back then they were so unlucky to be relegated from the PL. So many matches crammed in because they were still the cup kings. They should have had their season extended. Did well for them 3 seasons in that division. I really, really admired them tbh.

Yes I remember mate. They had a good side but the squad wasn’t big enough to deal with the extra games they had in a short space of time. Joe Royle was a good manager as well.