Tonights Game

[scunny rover]

To be honest I'd written Anderson off,but he's back and nearing his best,if we can keep the spine of Mitchell,the whole back four really, clayton ,tomlin,Miller who knows how far we can go,even with inevitable  injuries / loss of form we have good cover in all positions .
Biggins had his best game last night

[drfchound]

I haven’t yet seen anyone give credit to Tom for the through ball that lead to the first goal.

[Reg of the Rovers]

Just hope that all those who questioned Gary’s appointment are reading this and holding their hand up.

Bloody hell we're 4 games into the season mate. Don't you think it's a bit soon for these gloating posts of the true faithful who never had any doubts. I think questioning his appointment was pretty reasonable when we were actually relegated!

FWIW I don't think we've seen enough of this season yet to give a true judgement on GM. What we've seen so far has been pretty hopeful and a breath of fresh air compared to last season. But we are still 4 games in. There will be plenty of twists and turns in this season to come. Let's give it a bit longer before we start forming judgements.

I think that's fair - it's too early to tell. But last year we had seeds of doubt under GMc - pretty poor results, pretty spineless performances, lack of identity, strange team selections and stranger changes in-game. This year we have much more seeds of optimism - strongest selections with positive changes, pretty decent results, improving performances, fight, intensity, character and perseverance - and the intangible quality of luck! I think GMc has earned the benefit of the doubt for now.

[Jonathan]

Just hope that all those who questioned Gary’s appointment are reading this and holding their hand up.

Bloody hell we're 4 games into the season mate. Don't you think it's a bit soon for these gloating posts of the true faithful who never had any doubts. I think questioning his appointment was pretty reasonable when we were actually relegated!

FWIW I don't think we've seen enough of this season yet to give a true judgement on GM. What we've seen so far has been pretty hopeful and a breath of fresh air compared to last season. But we are still 4 games in. There will be plenty of twists and turns in this season to come. Let's give it a bit longer before we start forming judgements.

We need some rationality on both sides of the fence. And I say that as someone that, by my own admission, is sometimes prone to ill-advisedly rising to the bait and (for want of a better word) gloating when things go well. It stems from the frustration at witnessing the extreme cases of those that relentlessly seek to drag down everything that the club (and McSheffrey) do. They are probably in a minority, but they have been vocal and some just never let up. As with too many things in life at the moment, there seems to be little room for the sensible middle ground that I’m sure most of us probably occupy before allowing ourselves to get dragged into arguments.

In any case, I agree that four games is too soon to be passing judgements. Equally, when we hit a sticky patch (which we will at some point) we need to all stick together. We could all do with demonstrating a bit more balance, rationality and consistent support for the good of the club, whether you’re someone that wanted McSheffrey appointed or not. A week ago the boards and social media in particular were full of ”he’s got no gameplan / get him sacked” because we lost in the Carabao Cup to Lincoln. A week later and it’s totally different. Fact is, we shouldn’t have had that ridiculous reaction last week, but also if people want more time to form a more positive judgement then of course that’s understandable. Meanwhile if we could all channel our energies into getting behind the manager and team (as was the case last night) irrespective of our personal preferences, then we’d have a much better chance of succeeding.

[Chris Black come back]

Caveat being that we had a budget easily sufficient to keep us up last season and we still failed, but bear in mind we are playing in the lowest level of the professional game and we have one of the largest budgets in this league. We should be expecting to be in the play off places all being equal. And, yes, of course budget doesn’t guarantee success but we all know it is the major determinant.

[Bessie Red]

Can I just add a word of warning on the antics of Mitchell - he had 2 warnings tonight that if you stray too far out your goal, you leave the net totally exposed to a sucker punch from distance! Stop it, for goodness sake - the edge of your 18 yard area is sufficient - you’re not a sweeper!

Other than that, ok, apart from not allowing the ball to go between your legs!

 

I appreciate your last comment was probably tongue in cheek but there was little he could have done to stop being megged as it was a  instinctive toe poke and he didnt have time to set himself properly. Agree with your 1st point though he needs to be more aware of his positioning on the pitch when we are in possession because a quick turnover can lead to problems for him.

[RoversAlias]

I haven’t yet seen anyone give credit to Tom for the through ball that lead to the first goal.

Abbey was singing Tom's praises after the goal mate, led to us debating that "secondary assists" should perhaps be a recorded stat in football because that set the goal up brilliantly.

[Bessie Red]

Even before the red card, Biggins also looked much more comfortable in midfield.

I like Olowu but I just feel a bit more at ease with Tom at the back.

With Tom back, Olowu now has the time to develop in a more structured way instead of being thrust into battle. We have to remember he is still very young and although he hasnt really let us down in any way he should not have been auto 1st choice at this stage in his career.

[Bessie Red]

Just hope that all those who questioned Gary’s appointment are reading this and holding their hand up.

Bloody hell we're 4 games into the season mate. Don't you think it's a bit soon for these gloating posts of the true faithful who never had any doubts. I think questioning his appointment was pretty reasonable when we were actually relegated!

FWIW I don't think we've seen enough of this season yet to give a true judgement on GM. What we've seen so far has been pretty hopeful and a breath of fresh air compared to last season. But we are still 4 games in. There will be plenty of twists and turns in this season to come. Let's give it a bit longer before we start forming judgements.

I agree that 4 games in isnt the time to start counting your chickens, so to speak. However what I think we can give him credit for is that the team look much, much fitter, have a much better attitude, have the look of a team that are all on the same page and prepared to dig in and fight for each other. Also, whether or not it is solely down to him, he must get some credit for changing the model of recruitment ie. giving permanent 2/3 year contracts to young talented hungry players who will shape OUR future rather than relying on 5/6 young Prem loanees as first team starters that do not benefit us in the long term strategy.

[ditch_drfc]

All I'm saying is let's wait a bit longer before we start handing out the accolades. And tbf, the only reason I'm so hesitant is because after last year's mess I had such little faith in GM. So it's gonna take a few more good performances for me to be fully accepting that our 2022/3 side has nothing in common with the 2021/22 shambles.

But so far, so good. I'm really enjoying football again and can't wait to go to the next game. After watching a season where we give up so easily t's so refreshing to see us consistently attacking when we go a goal behind. Late goals are usually the sign of a good side.

But as I say let's wait and see if it really is that.

[RugbyRover]

Even before the red card, Biggins also looked much more comfortable in midfield.

I like Olowu but I just feel a bit more at ease with Tom at the back.

With Tom back, Olowu now has the time to develop in a more structured way instead of being thrust into battle. We have to remember he is still very young and although he hasnt really let us down in any way he should not have been auto 1st choice at this stage in his career.

Olowu is 22 years old. If he's not ready to be thrust into battle now he never will be.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Just hope that all those who questioned Gary’s appointment are reading this and holding their hand up.

Bloody hell we're 4 games into the season mate. Don't you think it's a bit soon for these gloating posts of the true faithful who never had any doubts. I think questioning his appointment was pretty reasonable when we were actually relegated!

FWIW I don't think we've seen enough of this season yet to give a true judgement on GM. What we've seen so far has been pretty hopeful and a breath of fresh air compared to last season. But we are still 4 games in. There will be plenty of twists and turns in this season to come. Let's give it a bit longer before we start forming judgements.

Nobody minds questioning but you know the attacks on him and the decision to appoint him have gone much further than 'questioning'.

Nobody's daft enough to call him the new messiah but level headed enough to realise he's an intelligent fella who's keen to learn. He wouldn't have thrown his hat in blindly and the board recognised his willingness to learn and learn quickly.

You can judge anytime you want as long as your views are not set in concrete and allow yourself to change your mind.

[BillyStubbsTears]

A word for Agard too. He has very intelligent movement doesn’t he.

Just watched the video of the winning goal again. Agard's positioning was superb. He took up the ideal position between the centre half and  full back to give himself the maximum time and space when Tomlin played him in. Top class striker play.

[Goole Rover]

Just hope that all those who questioned Gary’s appointment are reading this and holding their hand up.

Bloody hell we're 4 games into the season mate. Don't you think it's a bit soon for these gloating posts of the true faithful who never had any doubts. I think questioning his appointment was pretty reasonable when we were actually relegated!

FWIW I don't think we've seen enough of this season yet to give a true judgement on GM. What we've seen so far has been pretty hopeful and a breath of fresh air compared to last season. But we are still 4 games in. There will be plenty of twists and turns in this season to come. Let's give it a bit longer before we start forming judgements.

We were four games into his appointment when some on here criticised his style and wanted him sacked. It works both ways regarding four games, I was referring to the change in attitude.

[dickos1]

All I'm saying is let's wait a bit longer before we start handing out the accolades. And tbf, the only reason I'm so hesitant is because after last year's mess I had such little faith in GM. So it's gonna take a few more good performances for me to be fully accepting that our 2022/3 side has nothing in common with the 2021/22 shambles.

But so far, so good. I'm really enjoying football again and can't wait to go to the next game. After watching a season where we give up so easily t's so refreshing to see us consistently attacking when we go a goal behind. Late goals are usually the sign of a good side.

But as I say let's wait and see if it really is that.

If we’d lost all 4 would you be saying 4 games is too soon

[Bessie Red]

Even before the red card, Biggins also looked much more comfortable in midfield.

I like Olowu but I just feel a bit more at ease with Tom at the back.

With Tom back, Olowu now has the time to develop in a more structured way instead of being thrust into battle. We have to remember he is still very young and although he hasnt really let us down in any way he should not have been auto 1st choice at this stage in his career.

Olowu is 22 years old. If he's not ready to be thrust into battle now he never will be.

I agree to an extent but to be put in a position of being our 1st choice CB last season in a team that was clearly struggling to get results and keep clean sheets was unfair on him as a young clearly talented developing player. My point was that with Tom back it now affords both the club & Jo more time to develop him into an even better player in a less chaotic environment.

[Jonathan]

A word for Agard too. He has very intelligent movement doesn’t he.

Just watched the video of the winning goal again. Agard's positioning was superb. He took up the ideal position between the centre half and  full back to give himself the maximum time and space when Tomlin played him in. Top class striker play.

Lots about his movement reminds me of Heffernan. It’s speed of thought, or the ability to drop off and find space at just the right moment, that makes him a threat and not any explosive pace. Heffernan had it consistently. Agard has shown something similar each time he’s come off the bench this season. Could prove to be a very big player for us.

[Bollinger]

A word for Agard too. He has very intelligent movement doesn’t he.

Just watched the video of the winning goal again. Agard's positioning was superb. He took up the ideal position between the centre half and  full back to give himself the maximum time and space when Tomlin played him in. Top class striker play.

A glimpse that explains GM’s comment about him being ‘too good an opportunity to miss’.

[Alickismyhero]

I haven’t yet seen anyone give credit to Tom for the through ball that lead to the first goal.

I noted it at the time, a superb pass and he did it several times during the game. Nice to see him back

[RugbyRover]

Watched the game on ifollow last night. Did anyone else think Maxwell got the cold shoulder from GM when he got subbed?
Commentators were saying how unhappy GM was throughout the game. I guess Maxwell wasn't carrying out the plan.
I thought he did ok but room for improvement. Only saw him overlap Tommy once  .

[Filo]

Watched the game on ifollow last night. Did anyone else think Maxwell got the cold shoulder from GM when he got subbed?
Commentators were saying how unhappy GM was throughout the game. I guess Maxwell wasn't carrying out the plan.
I thought he did ok but room for improvement. Didn't see him overlap Tommy once.

He provided the assist for Millers goal

[Batleyred]

Watched the game on ifollow last night. Did anyone else think Maxwell got the cold shoulder from GM when he got subbed?
Commentators were saying how unhappy GM was throughout the game. I guess Maxwell wasn't carrying out the plan.
I thought he did ok but room for improvement. Didn't see him overlap Tommy once.

McShefrey was jumping about literally shouting instructions out, Maxwell wasn't in his line of vision and Maxwell glanced back but Gary was still looking down the pitch instructing the players.

[RugbyRover]

Watched the game on ifollow last night. Did anyone else think Maxwell got the cold shoulder from GM when he got subbed?
Commentators were saying how unhappy GM was throughout the game. I guess Maxwell wasn't carrying out the plan.
I thought he did ok but room for improvement. Didn't see him overlap Tommy once.

He provided the assist for Millers goal

Thought Tommy had crossed it, see it was Maxwell now.

[BillyStubbsTears]

A word for Agard too. He has very intelligent movement doesn’t he.

Just watched the video of the winning goal again. Agard's positioning was superb. He took up the ideal position between the centre half and  full back to give himself the maximum time and space when Tomlin played him in. Top class striker play.

Lots about his movement reminds me of Heffernan. It’s speed of thought, or the ability to drop off and find space at just the right moment, that makes him a threat and not any explosive pace. Heffernan had it consistently. Agard has shown something similar each time he’s come off the bench this season. Could prove to be a very big player for us.

Heffernan was...actually forget it!