Window

[scawsby steve]

Including Tomlin, the progress of the squad since the start of the season currently stands at 1 in, 4 out, as we enter the second half of January.

Good window so far.

[grayx]

Dont panic, we are being “active” apparently.

[roversdude]

Not really a fair assessment as Tomlin and Andrews had long since departed - we do need bodies in though

[Chris Black come back]

Including Tomlin, the progress of the squad since the start of the season currently stands at 1 in, 4 out, as we enter the second half of January.

Good window so far.

We also currently have Kuleya and Degruchy out on loan. Both were in the matchday squad at the start of the season.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Appreciate Copps might have his hands full at the moment but, it might be timely for him to deliver his 'Progress report' as indicated in Gavins new year statement.

Without him necessarily going into detail it might help settle a few nerves if he was to outline where we are at and where we want to be on recruitment and contracts etc.

Hearing his words about Knoyles departure too might help us put some of the theories to bed.

[steve@dcfd]

Maybe Copps hasn’t got anything to say at the moment.
On Knoyle didn’t Copps say they had a meeting in December and he said he wanted go elsewhere. If there are other players like that then he might want to keep his cards close to his chest especially if they are players we would like to stay.
He can only make things better if there is a positive message. But we shouldn’t worry or be concerned it’s happening.

[eastender]

Including Tomlin, the progress of the squad since the start of the season currently stands at 1 in, 4 out, as we enter the second half of January.

Good window so far.

We also currently have Kuleya and Degruchy out on loan. Both were in the matchday squad at the start of the season.

Including Tomlin, the progress of the squad since the start of the season currently stands at 1 in, 4 out, as we enter the second half of January.

Good window so far.

We also currently have Kuleya and Degruchy out on loan. Both were in the matchday squad at the start of the season.

You could add Bobby Faulkner to that list .

[scawsby steve]

I was referring to players who have specifically left the club.

[Sammy Chung was King]

I would prefer Coppinger to get on with his business, I’m not bothered about progress reports. Keep it quiet until the job has been done.

[ravenrover]

Possibly more fringe players outwardbound according to FP

[Canadian Rover]

Are we thinking we will see good signings this window? If we don't we can forget any hope of promotion and maybe start worrying.

[Metalmicky]

Looking forward to Alan's annual meltdown..... he should be along soon

[Chris Black come back]

It’s highly unlikely we are going to see multiple permanent signings. In fact if we make any I will be surprised. It’s the January window not the summer. It will be loan signings. We’ve presumably sent Woltman back to give us more room for this. One loanee in, probably two more still to come you would imagine.

[grayx]

It’s highly unlikely we are going to see multiple permanent signings. In fact if we make any I will be surprised. It’s the January window not the summer. It will be loan signings. We’ve presumably sent Woltman back to give us more room for this. One loanee in, probably two more still to come you would imagine.

Whilst i understand the need for the occasional loan signing i really dont want our squad full of loanees. As we have just lost a contracted player (Knoyle) is it too much to expect for him to be replaced at least?.  After all funds have been made “available”.

[drfchound]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

[jamesrover17]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

Part of where we are now can probably be traced back to that...

[Michael Shaw]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

Yes, Moore filled the team with loan players, but aren't we in an even worse place now without many loan players?  The rot started when Moore left but we have had plenty of time since to have stayed in League one or be in the playoffs now.

I do also wish people would see sense and not keep going on about promotion. The board doesn't want promotion it wants self-sufficiency. They may not be exclusive, but the priority is not promotion even though it is for the fans.

[Chris Black come back]

January is the worst time to start long term squad reconfiguration. We might be able to winkle out a decent permanent signing potentially but the options for every club without sacks of cash to spray around are very limited. It’s not just us, it’s the market structure.

[DearneValleyRover]

I don’t mind loans with a view to a permanent signing that makes sense for both club and player.

[roversdude]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

Yes, Moore filled the team with loan players, but aren't we in an even worse place now without many loan players?  The rot started when Moore left but we have had plenty of time since to have stayed in League one or be in the playoffs now.

I do also wish people would see sense and not keep going on about promotion. The board doesn't want promotion it wants self-sufficiency. They may not be exclusive, but the priority is not promotion even though it is for the fans.

Surely promotion and playing at a higher level aids sustainability

[RugbyRover]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

Yes, Moore filled the team with loan players, but aren't we in an even worse place now without many loan players?  The rot started when Moore left but we have had plenty of time since to have stayed in League one or be in the playoffs now.

I do also wish people would see sense and not keep going on about promotion. The board doesn't want promotion it wants self-sufficiency. They may not be exclusive, but the priority is not promotion even though it is for the fans.

Surely promotion and playing at a higher level aids sustainability

It could but we won't get promotion with the current playing staff.
We need some investment in that area, which won't happen because we want to be sustainable and all our budget has been wasted.
It's a pity that we don't have any assets that we could raise a loan against. Then we could use Club Doncaster to service that loan and use the loan to get new players.
New players = promotion = sustainability at a higher level.

[silent majority]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

Yes, Moore filled the team with loan players, but aren't we in an even worse place now without many loan players?  The rot started when Moore left but we have had plenty of time since to have stayed in League one or be in the playoffs now.

I do also wish people would see sense and not keep going on about promotion. The board doesn't want promotion it wants self-sufficiency. They may not be exclusive, but the priority is not promotion even though it is for the fans.

Surely promotion and playing at a higher level aids sustainability

It could but we won't get promotion with the current playing staff.
We need some investment in that area, which won't happen because we want to be sustainable and all our budget has been wasted.
It's a pity that we don't have any assets that we could raise a loan against. Then we could use Club Doncaster to service that loan and use the loan to get new players.
New players = promotion = sustainability at a higher level.

What crazy logic is that?

We've become a break even club due to the efforts of Club Doncaster and now we should take out loans so that we can be break even at a higher level?

Its football economics of the madhouse.

[grayx]

I don’t mind loans with a view to a permanent signing that makes sense for both club and player.

Yes I agree, however,if the loanee is a success here other clubs will probably offer better terms than us & he’ll go elsewhere. In effect you could say we have been used as a shop window and we have been on that boat before haven’t we?

[Canadian Rover]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

Yes, Moore filled the team with loan players, but aren't we in an even worse place now without many loan players?  The rot started when Moore left but we have had plenty of time since to have stayed in League one or be in the playoffs now.

I do also wish people would see sense and not keep going on about promotion. The board doesn't want promotion it wants self-sufficiency. They may not be exclusive, but the priority is not promotion even though it is for the fans.

Surely promotion and playing at a higher level aids sustainability

It could but we won't get promotion with the current playing staff.
We need some investment in that area, which won't happen because we want to be sustainable and all our budget has been wasted.
It's a pity that we don't have any assets that we could raise a loan against. Then we could use Club Doncaster to service that loan and use the loan to get new players.
New players = promotion = sustainability at a higher level.

What crazy logic is that?

We've become a break even club due to the efforts of Club Doncaster and now we should take out loans so that we can be break even at a higher level?

Its football economics of the madhouse.

Are Doncaster Rovers a break even club.

Or are club Doncaster a break even club?

Are both break even or does one no longer exist without the other?

In what context is Club used now from Baldwin & co.

This is not to say Club Doncaster isn't effective or even the right thing to do... But where do Doncaster Rovers fit into all of this?

And are we now sustainable and break even regardless of the division and standard of league we play in? If we move to League One is the aim to become profitable or to break even there?

[RugbyRover]

Moore filled the team with loan players and that didn’t work out too well in the end.

Yes, Moore filled the team with loan players, but aren't we in an even worse place now without many loan players?  The rot started when Moore left but we have had plenty of time since to have stayed in League one or be in the playoffs now.

I do also wish people would see sense and not keep going on about promotion. The board doesn't want promotion it wants self-sufficiency. They may not be exclusive, but the priority is not promotion even though it is for the fans.

Surely promotion and playing at a higher level aids sustainability

It could but we won't get promotion with the current playing staff.
We need some investment in that area, which won't happen because we want to be sustainable and all our budget has been wasted.
It's a pity that we don't have any assets that we could raise a loan against. Then we could use Club Doncaster to service that loan and use the loan to get new players.
New players = promotion = sustainability at a higher level.

What crazy logic is that?

We've become a break even club due to the efforts of Club Doncaster and now we should take out loans so that we can be break even at a higher level?

Its football economics of the madhouse.

madhouse?

We've become a break even club that's going down the pan. Very few are interested in a club where the football is crap and the players are crap. Alternatively most supporters would be happy being sustainable if the football was of a better quality, as in a higher league. Both Owners and supporters would be happy in that situation. What's crazy about that?

Millions of people get a loan / mortgage to improve their situation. I'd trust the CEO to borrow no more than Club Doncaster could repay.

Any how not going to happen because we don't have assets to borrow against. What a great situation we're in.
Total madhouse of a professional football club.

[DearneValleyRover]

I don’t mind loans with a view to a permanent signing that makes sense for both club and player.

Yes I agree, however,if the loanee is a success here other clubs will probably offer better terms than us & he’ll go elsewhere. In effect you could say we have been used as a shop window and we have been on that boat before haven’t we?

Yes, I agree that has happened but if permanent signings are not viable in January and we are going for loans, those who are in the shop window are more likely to give 110% than some prem youngster

[eastender]

According to Twitter we have a Defender coming in on loan today from a Premier League development squad.
It could be Iestyn Hughes or Joe Wormleighton from Leicester, or it could be neither. 

[steve@dcfd]

Using this window are we going to get players to Bounce Back Decisively. When the Chairman said that we must have had the funds he believed we could achieve that. Yet it appears the first two signings could be both loans and from development squads. Is Copps going down the DM route which people on here thought was crazy. With 14 days left will we bring in what DS said we needed experienced players of a level that are better than what we have now. We are a break even Club via Club Doncaster yet the level of football and players we can bring in is declining along with our league position.

[normal rules]

According to Twitter we have a Defender coming in on loan today from a Premier League development squad.
It could be Iestyn Hughes or Joe Wormleighton from Leicester, or it could be neither. 

Likely to be Ben Nelson. See rumour thread