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Author Topic: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.  (Read 1881 times)

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Today just showed how much the club is in mess. Fighting amongst fans. Happy clappers thinking this is acceptable. Clueless manager. Director of Football silent about what really matters right now. Abysmal keeper. And it’s only going to get worse.

The playing budget is big enough to put out a team that can make the play offs.

Schofield out. Coppinger out.





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Branton Rover

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To jettison Copps is ridiculous the lad needs backing from the hierarchy to deliver a competitive squad with options to the manager/head coach you can’t get a silk purse out of a sows ears. Danny needs the tools for the job. Can you imagine if Copps was to walk out stating he’s not getting the requisite backing they’d be a riot and the owners must realise this, it’s Down to them alone to give the Dof & the manager support financially.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #2 on March 25, 2023, 08:49:02 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Copps needs to act soon and then get the next appointment right. We all make mistakes. It’s how you react to them that matters. DS reacts by doing the same again. Hopefully Copps learns

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Copps needs to act soon and then get the next appointment right. We all make mistakes. It’s how you react to them that matters. DS reacts by doing the same again. Hopefully Copps learns

I'm fairly certain Copps isn't given control of hiring and firing. An influence yes but not control.

This shit isn't Coops fault.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #4 on March 25, 2023, 08:51:53 pm by Filo »
Today just showed how much the club is in mess. Fighting amongst fans. Happy clappers thinking this is acceptable. Clueless manager. Director of Football silent about what really matters right now. Abysmal keeper. And it’s only going to get worse.

The playing budget is big enough to put out a team that can make the play offs.

Schofield out. Coppinger out.




I’m not sure I know any happy clapper that thinks this is acceptable, and if there is, is it any wonder fans are fighting amongst themselves when divisive comments like that are made

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #5 on March 25, 2023, 08:52:50 pm by Cramby10 »
Copps ain’t going to sack him. The only way it happens is if the board take the decision out of his hands. If that leads to Copps walking away because of it then so be it.
If the board do do that it could be a master stroke on their part as it could win them back a little bit more support.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #6 on March 25, 2023, 08:57:01 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Copps needs to act soon and then get the next appointment right. We all make mistakes. It’s how you react to them that matters. DS reacts by doing the same again. Hopefully Copps learns

I'm fairly certain Copps isn't given control of hiring and firing. An influence yes but not control.

This shit isn't Coops fault.

Then he’s not head of football and his job is a waste of time.

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Copps needs to act soon and then get the next appointment right. We all make mistakes. It’s how you react to them that matters. DS reacts by doing the same again. Hopefully Copps learns

I'm fairly certain Copps isn't given control of hiring and firing. An influence yes but not control.

This shit isn't Coops fault.

If he’s not in control of hiring and firing who is?

silent majority

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Today just showed how much the club is in mess. Fighting amongst fans. Happy clappers thinking this is acceptable. Clueless manager. Director of Football silent about what really matters right now. Abysmal keeper. And it’s only going to get worse.

The playing budget is big enough to put out a team that can make the play offs.

Schofield out. Coppinger out.




I’m not sure I know any happy clapper that thinks this is acceptable, and if there is, is it any wonder fans are fighting amongst themselves when divisive comments like that are made

Agree with that Filo, can’t see anywhere that someone has said it’s acceptable.


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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #9 on March 25, 2023, 09:18:23 pm by normal rules »
Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2023, 09:21:26 pm by normal rules »

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Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #11 on March 25, 2023, 09:24:34 pm by Donnyjim »
Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

Forget it. No one with anything about them will come near this club. The owners are killing the club and need to go.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #12 on March 25, 2023, 09:27:49 pm by Donnyjim »
As I said a while a go, the owners will hang Copps out to dry. Sadly I was right. He should never have taken that job. Deep down I think he knows that.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #13 on March 25, 2023, 09:36:19 pm by normal rules »
Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #14 on March 25, 2023, 09:43:30 pm by ravenrover »
See DeeDah were defending DS saying he is only trying to implement a style of football that the owners tasked him with when he was appointed

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« Reply #15 on March 25, 2023, 09:45:10 pm by normal rules »
See DeeDah were defending DS saying he is only trying to implement a style of football that the owners tasked him with when he was appointed

and what is that "style"

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #16 on March 25, 2023, 09:54:13 pm by Campsall rover »
See DeeDah were defending DS saying he is only trying to implement a style of football that the owners tasked him with when he was appointed
Hopefully he wasn’t tasked to implement the style of play we are seeing. 
If he was then he is dipping a fantastic job.  :zzz:

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #17 on March 25, 2023, 10:06:43 pm by Prez »
Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

No chance McCann would come back, I recall Blunt saying at one of the MTO events that he had burned his bridges with the club, besides McCann could easily get a job in league 1.

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Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

No chance McCann would come back, I recall Blunt saying at one of the MTO events that he had burned his bridges with the club, besides McCann could easily get a job in league 1.

No experienced manager would work under someone who had less experience as Head of Football Operations or equivalent. So a change to a more experienced manager would mark the end of Copps and his role. That is probably why he cannot disassociate himself from what is going on now.

I suppose that the entire senior management has committed to the current structure and that is what they are seemingly so stubborn.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #19 on March 26, 2023, 12:52:12 am by LincolnDonny »
Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

No chance McCann would come back, I recall Blunt saying at one of the MTO events that he had burned his bridges with the club, besides McCann could easily get a job in league 1.




Blunt also said we would have a budget to bounce back.........................Pay the money and get McCann back .........

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #20 on March 26, 2023, 08:29:58 am by grayx »
Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

No chance McCann would come back, I recall Blunt saying at one of the MTO events that he had burned his bridges with the club, besides McCann could easily get a job in league 1.




Blunt also said we would have a budget to bounce back.........................Pay the money and get McCann back .........

Now that would get fans back on side….but cant see it happening unfortunately.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #21 on March 26, 2023, 09:21:44 am by sedwardsdrfc »
I like the principle of a HoF it should help stop the churn every time a new manager come in. Remember how Moore was allowed to build a short term team that in a lot of ways lead to this.

That said the manager is far more important to the club. I wonder who we could get if we doubled the manager salary and added Copps salary to it. Maybe then we could get a quality person to take us forward.

We keep sacking managers so are always paying for 2 so at least we should double the salary to get the right person. If we get the wrong person we pay double anyway

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #22 on March 26, 2023, 10:24:20 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

He operated at Peterborough with a Head of Football as is Fergie. Barry Fry's been there a long time.

Dispensing with a HoF just because a head coach doesn't achieve what's required defeats the object of the role.

There are a number of clubs who go through head coaches until they find one that does deliver. Some are more trigger happy than others. It's an occupational hazard head coaches and HoF are well aware of.

Naturally, Copps and the board for that matter, want to give his choice every chance to get things right. They will judge how much he's getting things wrong.

A head of Football won't be married to a formation, just an overall desire for a style of play and the type of players to fit and adapt.

They've acted before to wield the axe when necessary so no reason to believe they won't again.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #23 on March 26, 2023, 10:40:34 am by Bessie Red »
If Copps is genuine about his affection for the club and he feels that his hands are tied and the owners are not doing what is best for the club then he should walk and expose the owners for what they are. So either he believes and agrees with everything the board are doing or he is lying about his affection, lying about what a great job the owners are doing and is just feathering his own nest for as long as he can. Which one is it?

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #24 on March 26, 2023, 10:56:44 am by wilts rover »
Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

No chance McCann would come back, I recall Blunt saying at one of the MTO events that he had burned his bridges with the club, besides McCann could easily get a job in league 1.




Blunt also said we would have a budget to bounce back.........................Pay the money and get McCann back .........


The problems we have now can be traced back to McCann leaving during pre-season after selling half of a play-off squad and not replacing them because he saw a quicker way for himself to get promoted.

You reckon he will be more loyal next time? Madness.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #25 on March 26, 2023, 11:10:55 am by Bessie Red »
Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

No chance McCann would come back, I recall Blunt saying at one of the MTO events that he had burned his bridges with the club, besides McCann could easily get a job in league 1.




Blunt also said we would have a budget to bounce back.........................Pay the money and get McCann back .........


The problems we have now can be traced back to McCann leaving during pre-season after selling half of a play-off squad and not replacing them because he saw a quicker way for himself to get promoted.

You reckon he will be more loyal next time? Madness.
McCann only sold Andrew, Butler, Marosi & Rowe from the team that played regularly, the others he sold, Beeston, Mandeville, McCullough, were fringe players. He signed Halliday, Reece James and Gomes.
Moore sold Marquis, Crawford & May out of the play off team and brought in Baptiste, Taylor, Fej, Kwame Thomas, Bingham & Devante Cole on permanents.

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Re: It's only going to get worse. Schofield out. Coppinger out.
« Reply #26 on March 26, 2023, 11:59:57 am by Prez »
Look at the squad he had when he was with us, and look at the jobs he has had since. He is not going to come to a side which is not even half way through a rebuilding job and has at least another season to go in the lowest professional tier. I am not sure he would be taking any job where he is answering to Copps either.

my alluding to him managing without a HOF was a clue to the bigger picture i suggest. If the board truly want this football club to get back to winning ways and success, then some very strong and clear leadership needs to be played out. rovers successful years in their recent history was done so without a HOF.
with the right manager, a HOF is not needed . We have proved that. Other successful clubs are are proving it at lge 1 and lge 2 level.

Get Mcann back. He returned to Peterborough so its not like he is not averse to going back to where he has already been. and get him back before season end so he sees what he has to work with.
And he did ok without a HOF.

No chance McCann would come back, I recall Blunt saying at one of the MTO events that he had burned his bridges with the club, besides McCann could easily get a job in league 1.




Blunt also said we would have a budget to bounce back.........................Pay the money and get McCann back .........


The problems we have now can be traced back to McCann leaving during pre-season after selling half of a play-off squad and not replacing them because he saw a quicker way for himself to get promoted.

You reckon he will be more loyal next time? Madness.
McCann only sold Andrew, Butler, Marosi & Rowe from the team that played regularly, the others he sold, Beeston, Mandeville, McCullough, were fringe players. He signed Halliday, Reece James and Gomes.
Moore sold Marquis, Crawford & May out of the play off team and brought in Baptiste, Taylor, Fej, Kwame Thomas, Bingham & Devante Cole on permanents.

And Bogle

 

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