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mushRTID

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #30 on August 19, 2023, 11:21:52 pm by mushRTID »
One of the problems imho is signing players that we had lined up.for the previous manager like Wood who played in a 3 at Rotherham in the Championship last year but looks all at sea in a McCamn 4 at the back.. if we were changing manager, why the feck sign him.. to me it smacks of lazy recruitment and hate to say it but Copps was part of that and of course the non existent lazy useless Blunt overseen the full mess..

We have a manager who plays 4-3-3.. a 38 year old Wood can't clearly play in a 4 and it's a mess as the club captain and leader is  slow as feck and one of the worst
 performers.

McCann said in an interview when he joined that he has the final say on all transfers.
He even elaborated that it’s because he will be the one getting the stick on the touch line if they don’t work out.



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Chris Black come back

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #31 on August 19, 2023, 11:29:10 pm by Chris Black come back »
Thinking back, we haven’t actually been any good since that early 2021 run of games under Moore, before he lost interest and then became shit. Sunderland away being I think a line in the sand not only for that season but for the club - we’ve been terrible pretty much every game since then and there are few teams we have absolutely dominated. Perhaps that Grimsby away game under Schofield. Grant will get it right but it’s probably going to be 3 full years of being shit until he really gets us going later this year or early next year. That’s pretty shit.

Donny Exile in York

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #32 on August 19, 2023, 11:29:17 pm by Donny Exile in York »
One of the problems imho is signing players that we had lined up.for the previous manager like Wood who played in a 3 at Rotherham in the Championship last year but looks all at sea in a McCamn 4 at the back.. if we were changing manager, why the feck sign him.. to me it smacks of lazy recruitment and hate to say it but Copps was part of that and of course the non existent lazy useless Blunt overseen the full mess..

We have a manager who plays 4-3-3.. a 38 year old Wood can't clearly play in a 4 and it's a mess as the club captain and leader is  slow as feck and one of the worst
 performers.

McCann said in an interview when he joined that he has the final say on all transfers.
He even elaborated that it’s because he will be the one getting the stick on the touch line if they don’t work out.

Yes he did but if you believe every single word coming out of a Club you live in cloud cuckoo land. He may have approved it but Wood was lined up under schofield.. you only have to trawl back to rumours of Wood in April signing.. before McCann came back..  fact is Wood looks like he is all at sea in a 4.. Bailey is another I would say was already lined up and Sterry before the end of last season.. we played the second half like a preseason friendly so recruitment is one problem, coasting players another.. Rowe has shot it as a centre midfielder too.

mushRTID

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #33 on August 19, 2023, 11:32:11 pm by mushRTID »
One of the problems imho is signing players that we had lined up.for the previous manager like Wood who played in a 3 at Rotherham in the Championship last year but looks all at sea in a McCamn 4 at the back.. if we were changing manager, why the feck sign him.. to me it smacks of lazy recruitment and hate to say it but Copps was part of that and of course the non existent lazy useless Blunt overseen the full mess..

We have a manager who plays 4-3-3.. a 38 year old Wood can't clearly play in a 4 and it's a mess as the club captain and leader is  slow as feck and one of the worst
 performers.

McCann said in an interview when he joined that he has the final say on all transfers.
He even elaborated that it’s because he will be the one getting the stick on the touch line if they don’t work out.

Yes he did but if you believe every single word coming out of a Club you live in cloud cuckoo land. He may have approved it but Wood was lined up under schofield.. you only have to trawl back to rumours of Wood in April signing.. before McCann came back..  fact is Wood looks like he is all at sea in a 4.. Bailey is another I would say was already lined up and Sterry before the end of last season.. we played the second half like a preseason friendly so recruitment is one problem, coasting players another.. Rowe has shot it as a centre midfielder too.

I’m not denying Wood was lined up before. I’m saying McCann confirmed he approved it.


dickos1

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #34 on August 20, 2023, 05:39:05 am by dickos1 »
Nobody will have signed this summer without mcCann having the final say. He’s not the kind of bloke who would allow that to happen

SoundbiteBarmyArmy

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #35 on August 20, 2023, 03:58:26 pm by SoundbiteBarmyArmy »
Another manager employed by Doncaster Rovers based on sentiment.

Looking forward to seeing what Dave Penney can do in 2024.


Shut up you muppet



If you can't agree with someone else or see their point of view, just call them names. Very intelligent of you.


Employing mcCann had nothing to do with sentiment, and anyone who suggests it was is clueless

Cheers for the Muppet comment - made my Sunday.

Was he even interviewed this time round, or was he just given it because he said he was keeping an eye on our results and where we end up at the end of the season? Very clever man.

Remember when he was called a snake by the Rovers faithful? Soon changed their tune in their glasshouses.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #36 on August 20, 2023, 04:13:20 pm by DonnyOsmond »
3-5-2 with Ironside and Faal up top. Close could change things in midfield. Push Nixon up the pitch he’s a good player. A defender either side of Anderson / Wood protects the lack of pace from them.

I think that 3-5-2 is the answer.

With 4-3-3 we seem to have two of the three forward players who play wide and aren’t willing to help the midfield when we don’t have the ball.   

With 3-5-2 you have 2 wing backs who operate as defenders when we don’t have the ball and wide midfielders when we do have it.   We also get two strikers who can play close to each other and be available for crosses into the box from the two wing backs. 

BBC Sport said that we played 4-2-3-1 today but it looked more like 4-3-3, which for me is an ineffective system with the players that we have.   

Definitely was 4-2-3-1 with Rowe and Bailey in midfield and Westbrooke as #10.

Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #37 on August 20, 2023, 04:40:22 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
3-5-2 is the answer with the players we have. This would allow two up front and an extra central defender in the middle. Play a recognised full back on one side and a converted winger on the other.

I would be tempted to put Olowu in a holding midfield role. We would have a bit of solidity and hopefully good movement to rotate positions around Ironside, with Molyneux and Sotona around him.

Roberts giving natural width, Maxwell giving width and a bit of defensive ability. Rowe and Olowu giving that cover on the flanks at times and in front of the defence. Give Faulkner his chance with Wood central and Long at the other side. I think that would be a well balanced back three.


                    Lawlor

         Faulkner   Wood. Long

              Rowe.     Olowu

   Roberts.                        Maxwell

                     Molyneux

           Ironside.            Sotona

« Last Edit: August 20, 2023, 10:54:12 pm by Sammy Chung was King »

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #38 on August 20, 2023, 08:11:28 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Bailey has been our best midfielder so we swap him for Olowu who’s been our worst defender.

Going 3 at the back does nothing for our midfield troubles unless we go 3 central midfielders. It’ll be even easier to walk through in a 343 imo. Only way I can see a 3 abd the back working is 352.

         Olowu /Faulkner Wood Senior
Nixon  Biggins Bailey Broadbent   Maxwell
                  Faal    Ironside

If they are all fit that is



Sammy Chung was King

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #39 on August 20, 2023, 11:03:30 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
Bailey has been our best midfielder so we swap him for Olowu who’s been our worst defender.

Going 3 at the back does nothing for our midfield troubles unless we go 3 central midfielders. It’ll be even easier to walk through in a 343 imo. Only way I can see a 3 abd the back working is 352.

         Olowu /Faulkner Wood Senior
Nixon  Biggins Bailey Broadbent   Maxwell
                  Faal    Ironside

If they are all fit that is

Bailey is an option instead of Rowe, who to be fair hasn’t played well so far. Olowu would give us a bit of size in there, he isn’t a hot head that will get booked stupidly, good tackler, decent on the ball. Just tell him to give it to our ball players after breaking up the play.

I would like to see Faulkner get his opportunity, the others haven’t done much, he deserves his chance. Long on the left of a back three.
The side you’ve picked is also a good side. Our main problem is getting enough players, playing well in each game.

To win games in my opinion, you need six or seven of your side at least playing average, with one or two being the match winners. We aren’t getting that at the minute. I think we are much better than last season, but the results aren’t showing that.

 We were devoid of any confidence to win a game last season. That’s why we can’t afford losing to go on too long, in football confidence is a massive thing.

NickDRFC

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #40 on August 21, 2023, 07:08:21 am by NickDRFC »
Bailey has been our best midfielder so we swap him for Olowu who’s been our worst defender.

Going 3 at the back does nothing for our midfield troubles unless we go 3 central midfielders. It’ll be even easier to walk through in a 343 imo. Only way I can see a 3 abd the back working is 352.

         Olowu /Faulkner Wood Senior
Nixon  Biggins Bailey Broadbent   Maxwell
                  Faal    Ironside

If they are all fit that is

Bailey is an option instead of Rowe, who to be fair hasn’t played well so far. Olowu would give us a bit of size in there, he isn’t a hot head that will get booked stupidly, good tackler, decent on the ball. Just tell him to give it to our ball players after breaking up the play.

I would like to see Faulkner get his opportunity, the others haven’t done much, he deserves his chance. Long on the left of a back three.
The side you’ve picked is also a good side. Our main problem is getting enough players, playing well in each game.

To win games in my opinion, you need six or seven of your side at least playing average, with one or two being the match winners. We aren’t getting that at the minute. I think we are much better than last season, but the results aren’t showing that.

 We were devoid of any confidence to win a game last season. That’s why we can’t afford losing to go on too long, in football confidence is a massive thing.

“Olowu would give us a bit of size in there” - so would Lawlor, but I doubt anyone would suggest sticking him in midfield
“He isn’t a hot head that would get booked stupidly” - he’s prone to making rash challenges (see Harrogate), in an unfamiliar position this is only going to be amplified
“Good tackler, decent on the ball” - not recently, but fair(ish) points
“Just tell him to give it to our ball players after breaking up the play” - who would they be in your team? There’s even less of a midfield than we are managing to play with at the moment!

Our midfield looks non-existent right now with 2 and a half players who mostly play there (Rowe the half given he’s been shunted around for years), I’ve no idea how anyone thinks it’ll be better by chucking players into roles that they are completely alien with.

Donnybax

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #41 on August 21, 2023, 08:37:41 am by Donnybax »
3-5-2 is the answer with the players we have. This would allow two up front and an extra central defender in the middle. Play a recognised full back on one side and a converted winger on the other.

I would be tempted to put Olowu in a holding midfield role. We would have a bit of solidity and hopefully good movement to rotate positions around Ironside, with Molyneux and Sotona around him.

Roberts giving natural width, Maxwell giving width and a bit of defensive ability. Rowe and Olowu giving that cover on the flanks at times and in front of the defence. Give Faulkner his chance with Wood central and Long at the other side. I think that would be a well balanced back three.


                    Lawlor

         Faulkner   Wood. Long

              Rowe.     Olowu

   Roberts.                        Maxwell

                     Molyneux

           Ironside.            Sotona


this is truly awful

donyderek

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #42 on August 22, 2023, 07:41:43 pm by donyderek »
Just popped in to have a look at the forum, still the same old problems. Now standing on the football league trapdoor.
I retired when the five year plan was seen as a scam. The board had little empathy for its managers or the supporters Sold my season ticket bought some fishing tackle. Haven't  looked back. Best of luck to you all you will need it.

Iberian Red

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Re: Sick and tired of being shit
« Reply #43 on August 22, 2023, 07:51:05 pm by Iberian Red »
You sold your season ticket?

How exactly did you do that?

Good to see you are enjoying fishing on a football forum now,it's a regular pastime for some.

 

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