Jeremy Hunt says Britain should be the most prosperous country in the world

[Not Now Kato]

OK, Explain what I said was wrong.

Start with my last post to keep it topical, and then perhaps start at the very beginning of the thread and tell me if you think BST's responses were actual responses to what I said.

Then perhaps you can tell me if YOUR responses were actual responses to what I said.

As for the Tory jibes, It's not the Tories I'm supporting here, I'm showing my objection, and often disgust at the likes of BST and his handful of followers.

Maybe if you re-read this thread from the beginning you’d see where what you’ve said was wrong as it’s been pointed out to you clearly and with facts. Of course, if you fail to see that then you’re a lost cause and no one should take your posts seriously, (actually, I’m not sure many do anyway ).

YOU told me I was wrong. Now, I want you to tell me where I was wrong.

Start at the opening post, which as explained was a proper account of what Jeremy Hunt actually said and not the twisted version that Wilts Rover said. Then read BST's response.

FFS, are you really that dense?  Read your posts and the replies by Filo, myself and others correcting you!
 
Oh, and here's another one.... You said yesterday "You knew the point I was making. It was a valid point. I've explained what furloughing means. I've conceded that the government had to change the title for the self-employed because you can't furlough yourself, I suppose."
 
Wrong yet again.  The government didn't change any title for the self employed. As I pointed out previously, they were two completely separate schemes, for two completely separate reasons.  Oh, and the rules and criteria for both were completely different!

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OK, Explain what I said was wrong.

Start with my last post to keep it topical, and then perhaps start at the very beginning of the thread and tell me if you think BST's responses were actual responses to what I said.

Then perhaps you can tell me if YOUR responses were actual responses to what I said.

As for the Tory jibes, It's not the Tories I'm supporting here, I'm showing my objection, and often disgust at the likes of BST and his handful of followers.

Maybe if you re-read this thread from the beginning you’d see where what you’ve said was wrong as it’s been pointed out to you clearly and with facts. Of course, if you fail to see that then you’re a lost cause and no one should take your posts seriously, (actually, I’m not sure many do anyway ).

YOU told me I was wrong. Now, I want you to tell me where I was wrong.

Start at the opening post, which as explained was a proper account of what Jeremy Hunt actually said and not the twisted version that Wilts Rover said. Then read BST's response.

FFS, are you really that dense?  Read your posts and the replies by Filo, myself and others correcting you!
 
Oh, and here's another one.... You said yesterday "You knew the point I was making. It was a valid point. I've explained what furloughing means. I've conceded that the government had to change the title for the self-employed because you can't furlough yourself, I suppose."
 
Wrong yet again.  The government didn't change any title for the self employed. As I pointed out previously, they were two completely separate schemes, for two completely separate reasons.  Oh, and the rules and criteria for both were completely different!

I corrected myself before you stuck your awe in. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a payment for furlough instead of furlough payment it would have been fine?

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

[Not Now Kato]

OK, Explain what I said was wrong.

Start with my last post to keep it topical, and then perhaps start at the very beginning of the thread and tell me if you think BST's responses were actual responses to what I said.

Then perhaps you can tell me if YOUR responses were actual responses to what I said.

As for the Tory jibes, It's not the Tories I'm supporting here, I'm showing my objection, and often disgust at the likes of BST and his handful of followers.

Maybe if you re-read this thread from the beginning you’d see where what you’ve said was wrong as it’s been pointed out to you clearly and with facts. Of course, if you fail to see that then you’re a lost cause and no one should take your posts seriously, (actually, I’m not sure many do anyway ).

YOU told me I was wrong. Now, I want you to tell me where I was wrong.

Start at the opening post, which as explained was a proper account of what Jeremy Hunt actually said and not the twisted version that Wilts Rover said. Then read BST's response.

FFS, are you really that dense?  Read your posts and the replies by Filo, myself and others correcting you!
 
Oh, and here's another one.... You said yesterday "You knew the point I was making. It was a valid point. I've explained what furloughing means. I've conceded that the government had to change the title for the self-employed because you can't furlough yourself, I suppose."
 
Wrong yet again.  The government didn't change any title for the self employed. As I pointed out previously, they were two completely separate schemes, for two completely separate reasons.  Oh, and the rules and criteria for both were completely different!

I corrected myself before you stuck your awe in. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a furlough payment instead of furlough payment it would have been fine?

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

Yet more obfuscation BB!  I quoted what you said yesterday. I'll repeat it in case you had difficulty reading that post....
 
You knew the point I was making. It was a valid point. I've explained what furloughing means. I've conceded that the government had to change the title for the self-employed because you can't furlough yourself, I suppose.
 
So, show me where you've corrected it.

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Post 64

[Not Now Kato]

Post 64

What  you said in post 64 was....
 
I asked the question, hence the question mark. They may not have qualified for furlough but instead qualified for a job retention scheme, which was also known as the furlough scheme.
 
Which is NOT a correction of what you said yesterday, which was
 
You knew the point I was making. It was a valid point. I've explained what furloughing means. I've conceded that the government had to change the title for the self-employed because you can't furlough yourself, I suppose.
 
So where's the correction and the admission that the two schemes were separate and distinct?  I suppose there'll now be more obfuscation from you when it would be easier to just admit you were wrong!
 

[BillyStubbsTears]

BB

In one post you said a reason we didn't bring in a lockdown earlier in Autumn 2020 was because people were fiddling payments. That delay killed a lot of people. By the logic of what you, yourself are saying, if you had personal knowledge of that fiddling, and you didn't report it, you are complicit in those deaths.

Did you report it?

[Bentley Bullet]

 NNK. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a payment for being furloughed instead of a furlough payment would it have been fine?

[Bentley Bullet]

BB

In one post you said a reason we didn't bring in a lockdown earlier in Autumn 2020 was because people were fiddling payments. That delay killed a lot of people. By the logic of what you, yourself are saying, if you had personal knowledge of that fiddling, and you didn't report it, you are complicit in those deaths.

Did you report it?

No, I didn't say that.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Then what on earth did you mean when you posted this?

"By October/November 2020 many (not just a few headbangers) were sick to death of lockdowns and were going through the motions of safe distancing etc. Some people never even adhered to the first lockdown and worked through it; some even claimed furlough while still working.

"People were becoming more non-conforming, putting the government under more pressure while deciding whether to put the country back into lockdown"

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I meant exactly what I said.

Show me where I said  "a reason we didn't bring in a lockdown earlier in Autumn 2020 was because people were fiddling payments."

[Not Now Kato]

NNK. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a payment for being furloughed instead of a furlough payment would it have been fine?

No.  However, I'm sure it must be fine in your world where every day is an
 

[Bentley Bullet]

NNK. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a payment for being furloughed instead of a furlough payment would it have been fine?

No.  However, I'm sure it must be fine in your world where every day is an
 

Then It is you that is rather dense.

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

[BillyStubbsTears]

I meant exactly what I said.

Show me where I said  "a reason we didn't bring in a lockdown earlier in Autumn 2020 was because people were fiddling payments."

I refer you to my post 128. You said "People were becoming more non-conforming, putting the government under more pressure while deciding whether to put the country back into lockdown" having immediately before given an example of that non-conforming as being people fiddling payments.

So, if you knew of an example of that sort of disgusting behaviour and didn't report it, you were, in a small way, complicit with the deaths of thousands of people and a much bigger economic hit than we should have had.

Unless, when you posted earlier, you DIDN'T mean that people fiddling payments was an example of the sort of non-conforming with the rules that put the Government under more pressure when deciding whether to bring in lockdown.

But if that's the case, what you posted earlier is meaningless claptr...ahh. Of course!

[Not Now Kato]

NNK. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a payment for being furloughed instead of a furlough payment would it have been fine?

No.  However, I'm sure it must be fine in your world where every day is an
 

Then It is you that is rather dense.

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

Stop trying to move the goal posts clown!  It's making you look dafter than you are - if that's at all possible,

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NNK. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a payment for being furloughed instead of a furlough payment would it have been fine?

No.  However, I'm sure it must be fine in your world where every day is an
 

Then It is you that is rather dense.

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

Stop trying to move the goal posts clown!  It's making you look dafter than you are - if that's at all possible,

The trouble with letting proper clowns like you loose on an internet forum is it is in danger of turning into a circus.

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

[Not Now Kato]

NNK. If I'd said some Self-Employed people received a payment for being furloughed instead of a furlough payment would it have been fine?

No.  However, I'm sure it must be fine in your world where every day is an
 

Then It is you that is rather dense.

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

Stop trying to move the goal posts clown!  It's making you look dafter than you are - if that's at all possible,

The trouble with letting proper clowns like you loose on an internet forum is it is in danger of turning into a circus.

Do you disagree with the government's claims and the personal knowledge of people on this thread that money was fraudulently claimed during the pandemic?

Nothing at all to do with the errors in your posts that I've been pointing out, you need to try harder.

[Bentley Bullet]

You need to grow up and either put up or shut up.

[Not Now Kato]

You need to grow up and either put up or shut up.

I did, you didn’t.

[Bentley Bullet]

Kato, it's for grown-ups at this time of night. I know you want to have the last word, but not now Kato, Not now.

[Not Now Kato]

Kato, it's for grown-ups at this time of night. I know you want to have the last word, but not now Kato, Not now.

I don’t want to have the last word BB. What I want is for you to accept that you were mistaken/wrong/incorrect, (call it what you will other than correct), on those items I’ve quoted you on. It’s what grownup do.

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Kato, it's for grown-ups at this time of night. I know you want to have the last word, but not now Kato, Not now.

I don’t want to have the last word BB. What I want is for you to accept that you were mistaken/wrong/incorrect, (call it what you will other than correct), on those items I’ve quoted you on. It’s what grownup do.

But your infatuation with me goes further than that. You said more or less that you disagreed with everything I've said in this thread.

Now, put up or shut up, because you're f**king boring me.

[Not Now Kato]

Kato, it's for grown-ups at this time of night. I know you want to have the last word, but not now Kato, Not now.

I don’t want to have the last word BB. What I want is for you to accept that you were mistaken/wrong/incorrect, (call it what you will other than correct), on those items I’ve quoted you on. It’s what grownup do.

But your infatuation with me goes further than that. You said more or less that you disagreed with everything I've said in this thread.

Now, put up or shut up, because you're f**king boring me.

As I said BB I did, you didn’t.

[Bentley Bullet]

OK, so now I'm just gonna ignore you.

Bye!

[Not Now Kato]

OK, so now I'm just gonna ignore you.

Bye!

Thank the Lord for that.