Form- Data Visualisation

[Chris Black come back]

Ben Whiteman left 3 years ago.

Since then, what fees have we received for players?

Those three children who went to Leeds and Man Utd. Ben Blythe. Knoyle at end of his contract.

Arguably Knoyle only one we have actually improved in any way and had him move to a bigger side, albeit for pennies given his contract remaining.

All the discussion about Club Doncaster and sustainability noticeably avoids the truth that our terrible recruitment means not only do the teams not perform and we go backwards, losing support on the way, but we hardly ever monetise any talent these days to deliver funds for future recruitment. This is at the very heart of why we are so terrible.

[ncRover]

I wouldn’t say even say we improved Knoyle. He was in the L2 team of the year before we signed him from Cambridge and he’s still at L2 level still now.

[Chris Black come back]

True, although he went to a bigger club, albeit at the same level. They have money to burn seemingly and signed him, even if for relative pennies.

[Michael Shaw]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

Underfunding of the first XI?

We kept the vast majority of last season's players and added 12 new ones. How much do you think we are paying on the playing squad?

[Chris Black come back]

It feels like our relative budget started to moderate after Ferguson got us back into League One after he had got us relegated first, and we managed to keep touch for a while as he was able to recruit well, even if he was unable to manage them properly.

Then McCann got appointed into a decent squad, made a very small number of excellent recruitment decisions (mainly loans). Then he left and Moore arrived, who through brutal use of the loan system made us very competitive for a period, at the expense of not actually owning any or many of our best players.

Since then it has been relative moderation in playing budgets and this coupled with truly terrible recruitment decisions and no (zero) monetisation of note, has mean we have collapsed. We shouldn't expect huge transfer budgets by any stretch but we should expect good use of the budget we have, which clearly has not happened now for several seasons.

[Michael Shaw]

BST, 12 new players who are not good enough (as only the blind can't see) is NOT putting in enough money for GOOD players to get up the table. At Meet The Owners all we hear is baffling sports science that is not working and Bramall talking about his charity and community work. The first XI is not his priority but it is what the fans care about. I stand by what I said.

[GazLaz]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

Underfunding of the first XI?

We kept the vast majority of last season's players and added 12 new ones. How much do you think we are paying on the playing squad?

The budget is up on last season but if you are not getting value for money it’s fairly irrelevant isn’t it. Our strike rate with signings just isn’t good enough.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'd guess the budget must be up at least £0.5m on last year. Probably closer to double that. VFM is absolutely the key thing though.

[ncRover]

The plan has gone to shit but that doesn’t mean all the signings in the summer aren’t up to standard.

I think Ironside Faal Nixon* Senior Westbrooke and Bailey have looked like very competent league 2 players.

No pace up front. Wingers were duds. The legs in midfield (Broadbent) wasn’t first XI ready and in the case of Rowe the legs have gone. The full backs capable of crossing and the defensive leader capable of organising the defence have been injured.

*edit

[Padge_DRFC]

The main problem is contracts were given out to players whilst McCann wasn't here.

Ironside, Faal, Bailey so far are really good signings

Senior and Nixon have done okay in games too. Sterry who knows yet

The rest not so much so.

If we were doing player of the season it would be a pick from the 3 good signings from the whole squad.

[Michael Shaw]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

Underfunding of the first XI?

We kept the vast majority of last season's players and added 12 new ones. How much do you think we are paying on the playing squad?

The budget is up on last season but if you are not getting value for money it’s fairly irrelevant isn’t it. Our strike rate with signings just isn’t good enough.

So with Wrexham's budget and Grant McCann as manager, do you not think Rovers would be in the top 3, because I do?

[vaya]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

Underfunding of the first XI?

We kept the vast majority of last season's players and added 12 new ones. How much do you think we are paying on the playing squad?

The budget is up on last season but if you are not getting value for money it’s fairly irrelevant isn’t it. Our strike rate with signings just isn’t good enough.

So with Wrexham's budget and Grant McCann as manager, do you not think Rovers would be in the top 3, because I do?

Not if the budget was spent badly we wouldn't.

Any amount of money is only as good as how it's spent, and for some time we've been guilty of spending badly by recruiting poorly.

[wilts rover]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

Underfunding of the first XI?

We kept the vast majority of last season's players and added 12 new ones. How much do you think we are paying on the playing squad?

The budget is up on last season but if you are not getting value for money it’s fairly irrelevant isn’t it. Our strike rate with signings just isn’t good enough.

So with Wrexham's budget and Grant McCann as manager, do you not think Rovers would be in the top 3, because I do?

Clearly Barrow have Wrexham's budget then? With an experienced FL manager?

What should the budget be to buy our way out of League 2?

[Campsall rover]

Budget isn’t everything.
We need players with character and a winning mentality.
Barrow will have one of the 5 lowest budgets in this league I expect and they are 2nd in the league with 5 consecutive wins behind them.

[pib]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

How can you conclude that the players “have no respect for McCann” purely from our record this season?

There are umpteen factors that can go into this, one of which is that a lot of our players aren’t good enough, or fit enough, or both.

[DearneValleyRover]

Funny how much trouble some people will go to to try to convince us all that things have improved from last season, including complicated stats.

After 22 games last season W9 D4 L9 = 31 points and 10th in table.
After 22 games this season W7 D3 L12 = 24 points and 20th in table.

Certainly, these players have no respect for McCann even though he recruited most of them. We need a massive clear out.

IMO the problem is underfunding of the first XI and too much funding of charity and community projects. Wrexham prove what sufficient funding can achieve. Will Bramall rectify the situation? We can only wait and see, but we are undeniably dire at the moment and have been for far too long.  It will be interesting to see what techniques will be employed next spring to encourage fans to buy season tickets for next season now that Ryan has tried a ST lottery and book signings.

McCann didn’t recruit the majority of them that’s one of the biggest problems

[DonnyOsmond]

Any chance of an update on both charts Gaz, when today's figures get added?

[GazLaz]

Any chance of an update on both charts Gaz, when today's figures get added?

I’ll do it tomorrow. I know there was improvement in recent weeks prior to today.

[GazLaz]

As of this weekend…

[DonnyOsmond]

Just noticed this. Cheers for the update.

No points for guessing when Close/Westbrooke played together. No news on Close currently but it didn't sound too bad and with Westbrooke back soon hopefully they'll both be together for this run of easier fixtures. We really need to add another option for those two in the summer, crazy we didn't in January TBF.

[GazLaz]

Update.

[Colin C No.3]

Update.

Fascinating.

[Filo]

So, what is this update telling us?

[Chris Black come back]

We’ve been on an upward trend and last half dozen games we have just about deserved to win each of them.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Just noticed this. Cheers for the update.

No points for guessing when Close/Westbrooke played together. No news on Close currently but it didn't sound too bad and with Westbrooke back soon hopefully they'll both be together for this run of easier fixtures. We really need to add another option for those two in the summer, crazy we didn't in January TBF.

It would be interesting to plot the injuries on that timeline.

[Peebles Rover]

Great to see the overall trend line though!!

[Colemans Left Hook]

homework for Gaz Laz
from his financial point of view it would be interesting for him to apply the above "techniques " to both teams he selected to win this division
Stockport County ( slow start to the season - warp drive form and now mid table performances - can't score a goal )- and as for the imploding Notts County I warned you all about them in early December (yawn) - so no homework needed on them