Sunak is a Liar

[River Don]

Even the tax lie was inaccurate..  the way Sunak was going on it was as if the supposed tax rise was  each year, when it would have been over 4 years - even if it was true..

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Its a rubbish question anyway - and one he nor Sunak could win, of course he would go private if it was a life critical issue, anyone with the cash would. The rich shouldn’t be penalised in that way, but the point is Starmer wants equality for the poorer (mostly substantially poorer to both men)  to receive better treatment through the NHS.

It's a f**king disgusting question.

It's basically saying "After the Tories have wrecked the NHS, would you a) let yourself or your family die or b) be a hypocrite?

Whoever thought up that question last night wants taking to a big f**king dog, then banned from NHS treatment.

That's exactly what I mean about the leaders debates being frivolous entertainment.

What about asking Sunak: Why is the NHS so much worse than it was in 2010 and what will you do about it?

[BillyStubbsTears]

And yes I am f**king angry as hell about this. I've recently lost a great friend because of a backlog that prevented him getting treated on the NHS until it was too late. And I've got another friend who has had no option but to go private for treatment after being told there was a two month delay in getting NHS treatment for a condition that will probably kill him too.

What this lot have done to the NHS is just beyond words. They have brought a service that was as good as anything in the world 15 years ago to the brink of collapse.

And then you get f**king insane questions like that trotted out at a debate.

[turnbull for england]

It really is a pointless question, if you can afford of course you do it. I had a major operation some 26 years ago, all on Nhs  but the wait to see the specialist that started the ball rolling would have been 115 weeks , I paid 120 quid and was seen inside a fortnight, that started the diagnosis and I was operated on within 6 months. There's every chance if I'd gone undiagnosed I'd have not made the 115 week wait. It's all well and good asking that question, but the only one that matters is why do you have to.

[DonnyOsmond]

  In the same debate Stabber Starmer said that he would not pay for treatment  for a close family member  but would use the NHS and would willingly go on a long waiting list before going private.
  Now just last week his personal wealth was published of north of £7million so I guess it shows one of a few things
  He is a tight b*****d, a liar, or likes to see people suffer unnecessarily, and he is hardly a good socialist, what do you think?
  I just think one of two things, he will be able to jump the que and sod the unwashed, or he is a liar.

Perhaps he intends to address the waiting list so people aren't having to wait months, so it becomes a none issue? Rather than us carry on as we are letting it grow and grow.