The simple Maths of our predicament

[Donnywolf]

... does anyone know the \"simples\" answer to how relegation issue is settled assuming :

1) we say SKitsons are down  

2) we lose both / Blades win both

3) we end on same points and same goal difference

After that - what are the criteria ?

[Filo]

Goals scored and if thats equal a play off!

[RedJ]

Can't we just have the chairmen of the two clubs have a jousting contest?

[DonnyEl]

Goals scored and if thats equal a play off!

does it no to head to head results after that?

[Bristol Red Rover]

head to head before a play off.

[Mr1Croft]

1) Points
2) GD
3) Goals Scored
4) Alphabetical Order

Should either the Championship, Promotion/play off place or Relegation place be undecided then it will be a play off rather than alphabet.

Although on football manager I found this scenario and 1, 2 and 3 were all level (for a play off spot) and it counted it on away goals scored.

[Bristol Red Rover]

No, its head to head before play off.

1) Points
2) GD
3) Goals Scored
4) Head to head
5) Play off
6) Who can kick Mr 1Croft the furthest

[Filo]

No, its head to head before play off.

1) Points
2) GD
3) Goals Scored
4) Head to head
5) Play off
6) Who can kick Mr 1Croft the furthest

Can you provide any evidence of that?

[Bristol Red Rover]

http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/78/3/0,,10794~888,00.pdf

page 129, sections 9.1 and 9.2

[The Red Baron]

You beat me to it. So there'll be no play off because of our superior record P.2 W. 1. D.1 this season.

9. METHOD OF DETERMINING LEAGUE POSITIONS
                  9.1 At the end of each Season the Club in each Division
                  scoring the highest number of points shall be declared the
                  Champion Club of that Division. Three points shall be awarded
                  for each League Match won. One point will be awarded to each
                  Club for a drawn match. If two or more Clubs have scored the
                  same number of points their position in the Division shall be
                  determined on goal difference, that is to say, the difference
                  between the total number of goals scored by and against a Club
                  in League Matches in that Season, and the higher or highest
                  placed Club shall be the Club with the highest goal
                  difference. If any two or more Clubs have scored the same
                  number of points and have the same goal difference the higher
                  or highest placed Club shall be the Club having scored the
                  most goals in League Matches in that Season.
                 

 9.2 If two or more Clubs have the same number of points, goal
                  difference and goals scored the highest placed Club shall be
                  determined by the respective League records against each
                  other, taking into account in order of precedence, points
                  gained, goal difference and goals scored. If the above
                  procedures do not separate the Clubs, then the Clubs concerned
                  shall play off a deciding League Match or Matches under
                  arrangements approved by the Board on a neutral ground. The
                  net gate money after deducting the usual match expenses shall
                  be equally divided between the two competing Clubs. Any Club
                  staging such a play off match shall be entitled to charge as
                  an expense against the receipts of the match 10% of the gross
                  gate receipts after deduction of Value Added Tax. In the event
                  of such a match being arranged by the Board to be played on
                  the ground of a Club which is not a member of The League, then
                  a similar charge as an expense against the receipts of the
                  match shall be paid by The League who shall otherwise be
                  responsible for the financial arrangements made with the Club
                  staging the match. These provisions shall determine the
                  ranking of Clubs in their respective Divisions.

[Filo]

http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/78/3/0,,10794~888,00.pdf

page 129, sections 9.1 and 9.2

Thats just a blank page

[Dimples-D]

If it comes to goals scored then we are gonna be safe, Sheff Utd have to score 12 just to be equal with us. that is not going to happen.

[Filo]

If it comes to goals scored then we are gonna be safe, Sheff Utd have to score 12 just to be equal with us. that is not going to happen.

so if we lost both our games 1-0 and Sheffield United won both their games 6-3, then we would be in a play off situation.  

[Dutch Uncle]

You beat me to it. So there'll be no play off because of our superior record P.2 W. 1. D.1 this season.

9. METHOD OF DETERMINING LEAGUE POSITIONS
                   9.2 If two or more Clubs have the same number of points, goal
                  difference and goals scored the highest placed Club shall be
                  determined by the respective League records against each
                  other, taking into account in order of precedence, points
                  gained, goal difference and goals scored. If the above
                  procedures do not separate the Clubs, then the Clubs concerned
                  shall play off a deciding League Match or Matches under
                  arrangements approved by the Board on a neutral ground.

Spot the redundancy above B)  

If we are measuring head-to-head matches and goal difference doesn't separate the clubs, that means the goal difference in the matches is zero meaning both clubs scored the same number of goals in the head-to-head matches