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albie

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Millers get an erection
« on December 06, 2011, 01:21:20 pm by albie »
Not Rovers related, but neighbours Rotherham are cracking on with their new home;
http://www.rotherhamunited-mad.co.uk/roll/edb3/4th_december__aerial_photos_716547/index.shtml

Not too far away from Millmoor, looking at the aerial photos. Due to be finished for next season, so might be good for giving them a thrashing in a pre-season friendly.



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MrFrost

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #1 on December 06, 2011, 02:57:54 pm by MrFrost »
Looks like its going to be better quality and design than what we ended up with.

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #2 on December 06, 2011, 05:40:25 pm by intake rover »
millmoor still looks a better shape than what belle vue ended up.

not on facebook

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #3 on December 06, 2011, 05:54:46 pm by not on facebook »
looks a lot better than KMS tbh,but at end of day after all the fuss as
passed by after first few home games their new gaff will just have same problem
as KMS today

as in souless/lifeless in the main.

sole reason new cosy grounds attract new types of fans who will just sit there on their hands and the new
security set in place will put down any olde style atmosphere.

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #4 on December 06, 2011, 06:56:07 pm by PDX_Rover »
Looks finished to me, albeit the pitch is a bit muddy.  When do they move in?

scuzzer

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #5 on December 06, 2011, 08:33:02 pm by scuzzer »
Always been our biggest rivals for me, perhaps from the time i was growing up and the fact i came from the Rotherham side of Donny, still pleased for them that they're getting a decent home in their own town to play in.

Also from my basic knowledge of Rotherham isn't that place actually nearer the town centre than Millmoor was, thats a rare case for a new ground if that's the case.

Good on em, straight up Booth's sphincter the robbing t**t!

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #6 on December 06, 2011, 09:09:22 pm by monkeytennis »
I drove past this today, it looks huge!

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #7 on December 07, 2011, 12:14:52 am by AntoDRFC »
Looks alot better than our boring crap stadium.


We really missed the boat I feel, could of been a much much better stadium, no chance of the ground getting any character now. (we'll just have to wait another 100 years . . .)

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #8 on December 07, 2011, 07:25:52 am by Muttley »
Quote from: \"AntoDRFC\" post=203925
Looks alot better than our boring crap stadium.


We really missed the boat I feel, could of been a much much better stadium, no chance of the ground getting any character now. (we'll just have to wait another 100 years . . .)


Think they'll be needing a boat looking how close it is to the Don - shades of Shrewsbury?

It looks slightly more interesting than the KM, but only due to the tall(er) manin stand and the stepped ends behind the goal. The other stand looks like they ran out of money so decided to have a shoebox.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #9 on December 07, 2011, 08:39:18 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
I was just going to say about the river, that could be interesting if we have a lot of rain again like a few years back,

Also they seem to have gone for the Brighton method, one top stand and 3 pretty average ones.  I didn't like that at Brighton and I do prefer how ours is as it's well enclosed, though no doubt an extra tier and curved roof on one stand would make it a much better stadium.

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #10 on December 07, 2011, 08:44:59 am by DaveDRFC »
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I was just going to say about the river, that could be interesting if we have a lot of rain again like a few years back,

Also they seem to have gone for the Brighton method, one top stand and 3 pretty average ones.  I didn't like that at Brighton and I do prefer how ours is as it's well enclosed, though no doubt an extra tier and curved roof on one stand would make it a much better stadium.


I was thinking the same thing about it being like Brighton's ground, and I also didn't like it. One really impressive stand and 3 crap ones, and Brighton's especially has that many gaps it looks unfinished. I would have thought Rotherham's will look even more mismatched as it's only just over half the size of the Amex at 12,000, the 3 smaller stands will only have about 10 rows of seats in each!

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #11 on December 07, 2011, 10:24:01 am by hoolahoop »
It will look as 'incomplete' as Millmoor turned out to be. However I would think though it would be easier to extend should the need ever arise in the future......I doubt that will prove to be a worry though ;)

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #12 on December 07, 2011, 11:20:50 am by eastender »
Quote from: \"big fat yorkshire pudding\" post=203938
I was just going to say about the river, that could be interesting if we have a lot of rain again like a few years back,



Flooding shouldn't be a problem as the entire site as been raised by 2m using spoil from Maltby colliery.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-13186688

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #13 on December 07, 2011, 11:28:41 am by Thinwhiteduke »
Looks 100 x better than the Keepmoat to be honest....good luck to them.

Am I right in thinking RUFC own that one lock, stock and barrel as well?

eastender

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #14 on December 07, 2011, 11:54:06 am by eastender »
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Looks 100 x better than the Keepmoat to be honest....good luck to them.

Am I right in thinking RUFC own that one lock, stock and barrel as well?



No , Rotherham United will not own the stadium out right.

It will be owned partly by them and private investors.

The stadium will cost 17.3M to build using Loans ,Grants and Private investment.

Here is a paragraph taken from a Rotherham Borough Council meeting on the 8th June 2011.



\"  To support and facilitate the start of this regeneration development and the
initial construction works (planned to be on site July 2011) the Council is
working with the RUFC to provide a £5m capital loan facility as part of a
package of public and private sector financing for the proposed £17.3m
stadium. To date, including the proposed £5m Council loan, the Club have
identified funding of £15m, leaving a potential financing shortfall of £2.3m.  
The other identified funding is made up of £3.3m ERDF grant and £6.7m
private investment.  The Club have been asked to provide evidence to confirm
that these funding sources are in place and secure.\"

Thinwhiteduke

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #15 on December 07, 2011, 12:40:53 pm by Thinwhiteduke »
Quote from: \"eastender\" post=203964
Quote from: \"Thinwhiteduke\" post=203962
Looks 100 x better than the Keepmoat to be honest....good luck to them.

Am I right in thinking RUFC own that one lock, stock and barrel as well?



No , Rotherham United will not own the stadium out right.

It will be owned partly by them and private investors.

The stadium will cost 17.3M to build using Loans ,Grants and Private investment.

Here is a paragraph taken from a Rotherham Borough Council meeting on the 8th June 2011.



\"  To support and facilitate the start of this regeneration development and the
initial construction works (planned to be on site July 2011) the Council is
working with the RUFC to provide a £5m capital loan facility as part of a
package of public and private sector financing for the proposed £17.3m
stadium. To date, including the proposed £5m Council loan, the Club have
identified funding of £15m, leaving a potential financing shortfall of £2.3m.  
The other identified funding is made up of £3.3m ERDF grant and £6.7m
private investment.  The Club have been asked to provide evidence to confirm
that these funding sources are in place and secure.\"


Cheers for that, like the bloke with the orthapedic shoe I stand corrected.

Interestingly, how come their Stadium, which looks significantly better than ours, is cheaper to build?

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #16 on December 07, 2011, 01:27:43 pm by MrFrost »
Quote from: \"Thinwhiteduke\" post=203972
Quote from: \"eastender\" post=203964
Quote from: \"Thinwhiteduke\" post=203962
Looks 100 x better than the Keepmoat to be honest....good luck to them.

Am I right in thinking RUFC own that one lock, stock and barrel as well?



No , Rotherham United will not own the stadium out right.

It will be owned partly by them and private investors.

The stadium will cost 17.3M to build using Loans ,Grants and Private investment.

Here is a paragraph taken from a Rotherham Borough Council meeting on the 8th June 2011.

Because the total cost of ours included all the other pitches, 2nd stadium etc.



\"  To support and facilitate the start of this regeneration development and the
initial construction works (planned to be on site July 2011) the Council is
working with the RUFC to provide a £5m capital loan facility as part of a
package of public and private sector financing for the proposed £17.3m
stadium. To date, including the proposed £5m Council loan, the Club have
identified funding of £15m, leaving a potential financing shortfall of £2.3m.  
The other identified funding is made up of £3.3m ERDF grant and £6.7m
private investment.  The Club have been asked to provide evidence to confirm
that these funding sources are in place and secure.\"


Cheers for that, like the bloke with the orthapedic shoe I stand corrected.

Interestingly, how come their Stadium, which looks significantly better than ours, is cheaper to build?


Because ours included the athletics stadium, other pitches etc.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #17 on December 07, 2011, 01:43:36 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Quote from: \"Thinwhiteduke\" post=203972
Quote from: \"eastender\" post=203964
Quote from: \"Thinwhiteduke\" post=203962
Looks 100 x better than the Keepmoat to be honest....good luck to them.

Am I right in thinking RUFC own that one lock, stock and barrel as well?



No , Rotherham United will not own the stadium out right.

It will be owned partly by them and private investors.

The stadium will cost 17.3M to build using Loans ,Grants and Private investment.

Here is a paragraph taken from a Rotherham Borough Council meeting on the 8th June 2011.



\"  To support and facilitate the start of this regeneration development and the
initial construction works (planned to be on site July 2011) the Council is
working with the RUFC to provide a £5m capital loan facility as part of a
package of public and private sector financing for the proposed £17.3m
stadium. To date, including the proposed £5m Council loan, the Club have
identified funding of £15m, leaving a potential financing shortfall of £2.3m.  
The other identified funding is made up of £3.3m ERDF grant and £6.7m
private investment.  The Club have been asked to provide evidence to confirm
that these funding sources are in place and secure.\"


Cheers for that, like the bloke with the orthapedic shoe I stand corrected.

Interestingly, how come their Stadium, which looks significantly better than ours, is cheaper to build?


It may look a little better from an aerial view (I don't see how it looks much different to the Keepmoat when it was being build but that's just me I guess0.

But what's to say the build quality is as good?  Clearly they'll have some facilities in their main stand, difference is we have offices, facilities etc in all 4 stands at our stadium.  Their little stands won't have that.  Furthermore it has a 25% lower capacity which also makes a difference.  They have no other external facilities and also looking at it I can't actually see how it would be that attractive for any corporate events etc.  It's not really in an area where you could see it being used for anything but football.  The Keepmoat has issues, but often when I've gone down it has numerous events etc taking place during the day and often on evenings etc.  I'm not saying Rotherham won't but it's not in as good a location as ours and Rotherham is a smaller town.  The stadium to me still appears to be in the middle of a very ugly scrap yard.

The fit out inside the Keepmoat is first class, so that'll be another reason the cost would be higher what with it having more facilities in each stand (I believe some of the stadium is fit out but unoccupied still aswell).  I think that main stand will look decent (I actually thought their half built new one at Millmoor looked as if it'd be a good stand).  Be interesting to see how their crowds do as we were getting more at Belle Vue than they were at Millmoor/DVS, so it'll be interesting to see how theirs changes, considering they're likely to be in league 2 again next season the way they're playing.

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« Reply #18 on December 07, 2011, 02:03:24 pm by Jim Dobbin »
Its in a better location, smack bang in the town centre (l miss town centre grounds) and near the train station etc. The stadium also offers all that the Keepmoat can offer. It looks like one of the best small stadiums in the country but l suppose every new one thats built will.



Good on them after where they have been playing recently.

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« Reply #19 on December 07, 2011, 02:27:14 pm by nice one rovers »
Quote from: \"MrFrost\" post=203802
Looks like its going to be better quality and design than what we ended up with.

How can you tell, have I missed something?

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #20 on December 07, 2011, 02:36:45 pm by bobjimwilly »
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Its in a better location, smack bang in the town centre (l miss town centre grounds) and near the train station etc. The stadium also offers all that the Keepmoat can offer. It looks like one of the best small stadiums in the country but l suppose every new one thats built will.



Good on them after where they have been playing recently.


http://www.gmiconstructiongroup.co.uk/rotherham-united
Doesn't look like they will have 5-a-side pitches or an athletics track? :huh:

Edit: more photos, including cgi, here: http://www.gmiconstructiongroup.co.uk/rufcphotography

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #21 on December 07, 2011, 03:32:00 pm by eastender »
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But what's to say the build quality is as good?  Clearly they'll have some facilities in their main stand, difference is we have offices, facilities etc in all 4 stands at our stadium.  Their little stands won't have that.  Furthermore it has a 25% lower capacity which also makes a difference.  They have no other external facilities and also looking at it I can't actually see how it would be that attractive for any corporate events etc.  It's not really in an area where you could see it being used for anything but football.  The Keepmoat has issues, but often when I've gone down it has numerous events etc taking place during the day and often on evenings etc.  I'm not saying Rotherham won't but it's not in as good a location as ours and Rotherham is a smaller town..


BFYP ,Not only as it got all the facilities that the keepmoat has ,it's also got commercial space for shops , plus the ability to increase the capacity to 15,844 at minimum cost making it slighty larger than the Keepmoat

 
\"Designed by S&P Architects, the development will include all the features of a modern stadium from changing rooms, boot rooms and press rooms to refreshment stands, spectator amenities and the club shop. It will also include hospitality areas over two floors including facilities for match-day banqueting, non-match hospitality, conferencing, training and education areas and commercial spaces.

The design also allows for future expansion of the stadium and the addition of a further 3,844 seats.\"

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #22 on December 07, 2011, 03:34:50 pm by duggiesdad »
cant see any room for a carpark either

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #23 on December 07, 2011, 03:35:02 pm by Standanista »
I can't believe what I'm reading, written by supposedly educated grown men.

There's too much Rother-love on this thread.

Being, like scuzzer, another from the Rotherham side of Donny (Conisbrough to be precise, a mere cockstride from the Greater Doncaster boundry and within bucket-rattling earshot of Hooton Roberts), who still carries the emotional scars of having to attend both school and the Talisman tap room with too many Muppet Millers when we really were bad, I personally hope that the bloody thing falls down, gets washed down the Don in the next flood and ends up a mangled mess of broken girders and cheap plastic somewhere between Burcroft and Levitt Hagg.

You lot, sitting comfortably in Town Moor and Stainy, away from the front line, have gone soft.  Tickhill Square would be too good for 'em.

;)

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« Reply #24 on December 07, 2011, 03:45:25 pm by eastender »
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cant see any room for a carpark either


It's going to have a relatively small car park that they'll share with the new Council offices on the same site.



\"The planned stadium will have 12,000 seats, with an option for 4000 more. However the planned parking for the stadium and the new council offices which are to built on the same site is only about 500. \"

Standanista

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« Reply #25 on December 07, 2011, 03:48:18 pm by Standanista »
Has it got a family stand?  They're not going to bring in much ticket revenue when most of the parents are under 16.

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« Reply #26 on December 07, 2011, 10:26:30 pm by PDX_Rover »
The CGI photos make it look so romantic.....

vaya

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Re: Millers get an erection
« Reply #27 on December 08, 2011, 08:38:40 am by vaya »
Quote from: \"Jim Dobbin\" post=203985
Its in a better location, smack bang in the town centre (l miss town centre grounds) and near the train station etc. The stadium also offers all that the Keepmoat can offer. It looks like one of the best small stadiums in the country but l suppose every new one thats built will.



Good on them after where they have been playing recently.


Smack bang in the town centre of Rotherham though. Note the architectural plaudits for Beirut Argyle's new ground soon faced into insignificance once everyone realised where it was.

 

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