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What about all the foreigners coming in will they make them live on the street ??I'm currently unemployed and under 25 and i want to live with my partner but i want a job first before i get my own place.. which is impossible at this moment in time.Like the toffee boys would understand what it's like coping with hard times ie money etcNo doubt they will hit the English where it hurts :headbang
QuoteWhat about all the foreigners coming in will they make them live on the street ??I'm currently unemployed and under 25 and i want to live with my partner but i want a job first before i get my own place.. which is impossible at this moment in time.Like the toffee boys would understand what it's like coping with hard times ie money etcNo doubt they will hit the English where it hurts :headbangWell done Dave. It's time to make people stand on their own 2 feet and stop the something for nothing culture. The foreigners will either get a job and rent a house or they'll not come over here. I have a lot of experience with Polish immigrants and they all tell me it is a piece of piss to get a job if you really want one. Trouble is the English won't do certain types of jobs and then moan they can't get a job. Cutting their benefits will make them cop themselves on and get a job and stop relying on the rest of us for a cushy life on welfare.,
I can see the reason for it and i agree with itbut what happens for instance if, the parents aren't alive or situations such as where someone under 25 has a house with someone but gets made redundant and he/she parents have for instance moved to a smaller houseor it will get to point where there will be people being made homeless as they can't afford food and rent
Why doesn't Cameron stop giving billions to India who don't even need it then we might actually agree with some of his policies which include looking after your own which he clearly doesn't stand it for.. the supposed big society we're in it together
QuoteWhat about all the foreigners coming in will they make them live on the street ??I'm currently unemployed and under 25 and i want to live with my partner but i want a job first before i get my own place.. which is impossible at this moment in time.Like the toffee boys would understand what it's like coping with hard times ie money etcNo doubt they will hit the English where it hurts :headbangWell done Dave. It's time to make people stand on their own 2 feet and stop the something for nothing culture. The foreigners will either get a job and rent a house or they'll not come over here. I have a lot of experience with Polish immigrants and they all tell me it is a piece of piss to get a job if you really want one.
My daughter & her partner had a baby 12 weeks ago. They're moving into a rented property, by the time the rent & bills are paid they'll have about £80 a week to live on and he works 6 days a week. Some people on benefits or those that work part-time and get their wages topped up with tax credit are better off. Something needs to give.
QuoteMy daughter & her partner had a baby 12 weeks ago. They're moving into a rented property, by the time the rent & bills are paid they'll have about £80 a week to live on and he works 6 days a week. Some people on benefits or those that work part-time and get their wages topped up with tax credit are better off. Something needs to give.Fair play to your daughter and partner for trying to make a go of it without relying on benefits. They have my sympathy for the situation they find themselves in. Sounds like they have many years ahead of them of just scraping by on a low standard of living.It's difficult to comment on their circumstances but I would make the following general points that may or may not apply to them. In Doncaster it costs much less to buy a house with a mortgage than it does to rent. Why don't people save up for a deposit and then buy a house instead of renting? Why have a baby before you've bought your own house and can properly afford it?It never entered my head to ever rent a house as I have always considered this to be dead money. Owning your own house, eventually without a mortgage is a no-brainer compared to paying ever increasing rent. It never entered my head to have a baby before I had bought my own house and got the mortgage under control. It seems a lot of people don't understand basic economics.
Mr Cameron plans to stop the £70-a-week dole money for the unemployed who refuse to try hard to find work or produce a CVA couple will say, We are engaged, we are both living with our parents, we are trying to save before we get married and have children and be good parents. But how does it make us feel, Mr Cameron, when we see someone who goes ahead, has the child, gets the council home, gets the help that isnt available to us?One is trapped in a welfare system that discourages them from working, the other is doing the right thing and getting no help.Asked if he would take action against large families who were paid large sums in benefits, he replied: This is a difficult area but it is right to pose questions about it. At the moment the system encourages people not to work and have children, but we should help people to work AND have children.His plan to axe housing benefit for the under-25s will have exemptions for special cases, such as domestic violence, but he said: We are spending nearly £2 billion on housing benefit for under-25s a fortune. We need a bigger debate about welfare and what we expect of people. The system currently sends the signal you are better off not working, or working less.
Stopping the £70-a-week dole money for the unemployed who refuse to try hard to find work or produce a CV.
QuoteStopping the £70-a-week dole money for the unemployed who refuse to try hard to find work or produce a CV.My lad must be getting short changed then, he only gets £53 a week!It`s alright Cameron hitting the unemployed, but if there`s no jobs about or companies don`t reply to job applicants how are the young supposed to get work?My lad now applies for every job advertised on the jobcentre website, even the ones he knows he has no chance of getting, he very rarely gets an acknowledgement of the application, let alone an interview, I`ve even paid the cost of him getting his SIA Door supervisors Licence at £220, in an attempt for him to get work, he`s applied for various security jobs and still, no one will give him a break! It`s alright Cameron and his cronies telling people to find jobs, but they don`t understand the real world from their ivory towers!
Quote from: Filo on June 25, 2012, 12:36:23 pmQuoteStopping the £70-a-week dole money for the unemployed who refuse to try hard to find work or produce a CV.My lad must be getting short changed then, he only gets £53 a week!It`s alright Cameron hitting the unemployed, but if there`s no jobs about or companies don`t reply to job applicants how are the young supposed to get work?My lad now applies for every job advertised on the jobcentre website, even the ones he knows he has no chance of getting, he very rarely gets an acknowledgement of the application, let alone an interview, I`ve even paid the cost of him getting his SIA Door supervisors Licence at £220, in an attempt for him to get work, he`s applied for various security jobs and still, no one will give him a break! It`s alright Cameron and his cronies telling people to find jobs, but they don`t understand the real world from their ivory towers!How is he wording his applications?
Aldi have got a load of jobs on offer at the moment. Big advert at their store on Barnsley Rd.
my lad applied there a month or so ago. Despite his 13 GCSE's, 5 A levels and a M.Eng in Aerospace engineering and he never got a reply. It couldn't have been anything to do with the quality of his application as they do degrees in CV completion at Uni.
Quotemy lad applied there a month or so ago. Despite his 13 GCSE's, 5 A levels and a M.Eng in Aerospace engineering and he never got a reply. It couldn't have been anything to do with the quality of his application as they do degrees in CV completion at Uni.It's an absolute disgrace that the last Labour government left the country in such a mess that highly qualified graduates can't even get a job at Aldi. My two children graduate at the end of next year so it looks like I'm going to have to set them up in their own businesses and help them out with deposits on their first homes. That numpty Gordon Brown has got an awful lot to answer for.
Why are you going to have to do that?You said a few posts back there is work for everyone if you look hard enough. I presume you wouldn't want them in a call centre or working at Aldi? For me, handing out money on a plate to your children isn't the answer. How can they appreciate the value if it is just handed on a plate?
QuoteWhy are you going to have to do that?You said a few posts back there is work for everyone if you look hard enough. I presume you wouldn't want them in a call centre or working at Aldi? For me, handing out money on a plate to your children isn't the answer. How can they appreciate the value if it is just handed on a plate?There are jobs out there if you want them but I don't want my children doing crap, boring, low paid, dead-end jobs. I don't subscribe to the myth that having any job is good. There are plenty of jobs that are rubbish. It seems to me that many people are prepared to take any job without thinking if there is an alternative. Far better to start your own businesses rather than live on benefits.They won't be handed money on a plate. They'll be given a loan (because the banks are currently a waste of space) and will have my expertise to help them become successful. I intend to make money out of the venture and so will they. It will be a win win situation. In this day and age I think more parents should be helping their children get a decent start in life.The deposits on their houses will also be a loan. No way would I just give them money. No way am I going to see them end up lining the pockets of landlords like me. Whilst we perform a vital public service, being a landlord is like having a licence to print money. I intend to use some of this money (and from my other businesses) to get my children a good start in life.
I wish my child was as lucky as yours. I also wish I was as fortunate and didn't have to "line the pockets of landlords like you"Many people have no choice but to take the first job that becomes available, and if their job is deemed by yourself to be rubbish, doesn't make them any less of a person.I'm interested - what businesses do you run?
To any young graduate unsure about what to do, I took a low paid job with the big plc I work for on not much above minimum wage, which is disappointing after 4 years at uni. But it was worth it, after 8 months I was offered a job I wanted and earnt on proper money, they also pay for further professional qualifications and tuition etc for me. I wanted that straight away and was told despite being good enough I needed experience. So despite the low pay I got experience and made a difference. So what if I have to drive 26 miles each way to work, so what if I still live at home (though only for another month), in the long term it'll be really worthwhile.Jobs are there if people want them, we have problems filling ours sometimes, some of the ludicrous salary requests we get from applicants have to be seen to be believed. We can't get cleaners for example as the rate for a cleaner often means it's better for them to stay on benefits, that's a sad fact but ultimately it is true.
Anyone that thinks it's "a piece of piss" to get a job is just a nob that has never been in that situation! I hate when people say it's easy to get a job, it isn't easy at all. It's probably the hardest thing i've ever done. It's like a full time job in itself.