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Quote from: Filo on August 14, 2012, 07:16:55 pmQuote from: silent_majority on August 14, 2012, 07:07:33 pmQuote from: Filo on August 14, 2012, 06:53:06 pmQuote from: SIRFRAN on August 14, 2012, 06:47:52 pmFilo, I agree there should be a cut off point but would we be in a position to turn a bid down for copps, purely based on his wages?? Personally I think we have to sellIn contrast, if someone came in for bennett we are in a different position, he's not a big wage player and the ball we would be in our court, we could either say get lost or we could name a silly figure and see what's offeredProbably not, but a bold statement from the club might just drive the price up, we have to be in control of the situation, at the moment we appear for from being in control, pre-empt the bid coming in and put us on the front foot, sitting back and waiting is no good for us, we`ll get ripped off and have no time to find a replacement if we do. Sorry Dave but your wrong. Copps was one of the high earners that needed to go, as it happens nobody wanted him and he's still here. There won't be any bold statement about keeping Copps, if he can be moved on he will, but as of yet no firm enquiries.Martin, there`s apparent interest, clubs are playing us, we let every man and his dog know that we were prepared to let the high earners go, Burnley took the piss in signing Stock and now we`re prepared to let other clubs take the piss again, sometimes you`ve just got to bite your lip and call their bluff, either they want him or they don`t, lets just not let it happen and then give ourselves little time to replace him, call the shots and be brave, they`ll never make good poker players at DRFC!Dave, I get your point but I do think you misunderstand the situation. We need to offload certain players so we can replace them with other players of equal ability for less money. Every club in the land does this, its called a transfer list, it advertises our players to other clubs. Are you saying we should play hard ball with clubs who respond to that? What your saying is you think the buying club is getting a better deal than we are. How do you know that? How do you know that Burnley took the 'piss' to use your phrase?And now your saying that we are letting other clubs take the 'piss' again. How do you know that? There has been an enquiry, we acknowledge that, but no formal offer or any formal approach. If you consider he's been on the list for quite some time then how do you play hard ball with somebody who hasn't made a formal approach or contemplated a serious offer. Again to use your phrase how do you play poker when your opponent hasn't sat down at the table or had a look at his cards?
Quote from: silent_majority on August 14, 2012, 07:07:33 pmQuote from: Filo on August 14, 2012, 06:53:06 pmQuote from: SIRFRAN on August 14, 2012, 06:47:52 pmFilo, I agree there should be a cut off point but would we be in a position to turn a bid down for copps, purely based on his wages?? Personally I think we have to sellIn contrast, if someone came in for bennett we are in a different position, he's not a big wage player and the ball we would be in our court, we could either say get lost or we could name a silly figure and see what's offeredProbably not, but a bold statement from the club might just drive the price up, we have to be in control of the situation, at the moment we appear for from being in control, pre-empt the bid coming in and put us on the front foot, sitting back and waiting is no good for us, we`ll get ripped off and have no time to find a replacement if we do. Sorry Dave but your wrong. Copps was one of the high earners that needed to go, as it happens nobody wanted him and he's still here. There won't be any bold statement about keeping Copps, if he can be moved on he will, but as of yet no firm enquiries.Martin, there`s apparent interest, clubs are playing us, we let every man and his dog know that we were prepared to let the high earners go, Burnley took the piss in signing Stock and now we`re prepared to let other clubs take the piss again, sometimes you`ve just got to bite your lip and call their bluff, either they want him or they don`t, lets just not let it happen and then give ourselves little time to replace him, call the shots and be brave, they`ll never make good poker players at DRFC!
Quote from: Filo on August 14, 2012, 06:53:06 pmQuote from: SIRFRAN on August 14, 2012, 06:47:52 pmFilo, I agree there should be a cut off point but would we be in a position to turn a bid down for copps, purely based on his wages?? Personally I think we have to sellIn contrast, if someone came in for bennett we are in a different position, he's not a big wage player and the ball we would be in our court, we could either say get lost or we could name a silly figure and see what's offeredProbably not, but a bold statement from the club might just drive the price up, we have to be in control of the situation, at the moment we appear for from being in control, pre-empt the bid coming in and put us on the front foot, sitting back and waiting is no good for us, we`ll get ripped off and have no time to find a replacement if we do. Sorry Dave but your wrong. Copps was one of the high earners that needed to go, as it happens nobody wanted him and he's still here. There won't be any bold statement about keeping Copps, if he can be moved on he will, but as of yet no firm enquiries.
Quote from: SIRFRAN on August 14, 2012, 06:47:52 pmFilo, I agree there should be a cut off point but would we be in a position to turn a bid down for copps, purely based on his wages?? Personally I think we have to sellIn contrast, if someone came in for bennett we are in a different position, he's not a big wage player and the ball we would be in our court, we could either say get lost or we could name a silly figure and see what's offeredProbably not, but a bold statement from the club might just drive the price up, we have to be in control of the situation, at the moment we appear for from being in control, pre-empt the bid coming in and put us on the front foot, sitting back and waiting is no good for us, we`ll get ripped off and have no time to find a replacement if we do.
Filo, I agree there should be a cut off point but would we be in a position to turn a bid down for copps, purely based on his wages?? Personally I think we have to sellIn contrast, if someone came in for bennett we are in a different position, he's not a big wage player and the ball we would be in our court, we could either say get lost or we could name a silly figure and see what's offered
however......the strategy the club have put in place, the work gary baldwins doing,the direction the club is now aiming to be run and be going,and the squad dean has been trying to put together with all the restrictions he's faced, along with the enthusiasm he's shown to have a successful season has finally, for the first time in 18 months, generated the feel good factor that we've missed so dearly!!The jury is still out on saunders for me, I wish him all the best, I just hope the fans get behind him and give him a chance, and forget what's gone before, judge deano at christmas with the squad he has built himself!!
I like Copps, when I pay my money I like to see players with a bit of ability who can do something different, players who've got technique, time on the ball and composure. Having said that, if Hull fancy him and he wants another crack at the Championship why stand in his way, we've had his best years, he doesn't owe us anything. If we get him off the wage bill and get a few quid for him maybe there's the next James Coppinger out there somewhere we could invest the money in. In any case we're not too badly off for wingers/ attacking midfielders.
Does anyone actually knows what's up with Martis?
Cussy,Not so much VFM but more a case of when we're a lg1 club we need to sign players on lg1 wages. If you don't do that you have to have a very small squad or your budget is far larger than you want it to be. If we had been relegated from the PL to the Championship there could be an argument for keeping our star players to attempt to get straight back, but that's the benefit of parachute payments. I'm not sure about signing players with poor injury records, McCombe maybe? I think the club would agree on the Woods and Shelts front, but sometimes you can't do everything, and Woods has proved himself throughout the summer with his own training regime.I'd be optimistic if I were you, I can't see any reasons not to be. I leave the arguments about which players are better than others to other people who know more than I do, but I do know a well run and ambitious football club when I see one, and we have one of those.
Quote from: mushRTID on August 15, 2012, 10:18:36 pmDoes anyone actually knows what's up with Martis?Not sure but he got through the spinning class at Nuffield Health yesterday without pulling up!