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jonnydog. What has a photo of you doing your homework got to do with anything? By the way, a bit of friendly advice. I'd get that hairstyle and specs sorted if I were you. You'd get away with the shirt, but I'd also practice facial expressions, as your study face is very weird.
Anne Summers?
All I can say at the moment is that it is another teaching business. I seem to have a natural ability to educate the masses.
QuoteYou ignored my point about defence or goals conceded.What you find is that the teams with the best possession efficiency also have the best defensive records. If you think about it, it is obvious. You're hardly likely to be good at possession if you keep giving the ball away to the opposition to score goals.
You ignored my point about defence or goals conceded.
I'm talking about the 92 clubs within our 4 divisions. If 24 sides win without achieving the highest possession stat, every week. Then I think that proves your whole point is complete nonsense
Do they though? A team could have a bad "possession efficiency" but be excellent defensively, and succeed. By your numbers, if we have a game with 50% possession and 10 goal attempts that is a rating of 5, so we'd be (more likely to be) relegated? I beg to differ - 10 attempts on goal will often win matches - especially if the opposition has less attempts. Your stats to predict performances take no account of the quality of what you do with the possession, and as I have already said, what the opposition does with theirs.Also, in an earlier post, you said Rovers had (I think) 369% of possession from their games to date. That is nonsense, they may have had 369 minutes of possession, which in 8 games averages just over 51%. More meaningful stats would be goals scored/number of attempts, goals/number of corners or crosses etc, amount of possession in opponent's half/penalty area etc. So there are flaws in your arguments, and it is nowhere near certain that 50% possession with 10 or fewer chances would mean relegation.Can't you just enjoy the football, praise good performances and be critical where justified?And by the way, I had a look at this (sorry, not sure about posting a link) http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/05/04/the-relationship-between-possession-and-shots which has the following statement:"Of course, being more or less efficient is not necessarily ‘better’ – because the sole purpose of possession is not to score a goal. Possession can be used as a defensive tactic to play out time when a side is ahead, and can be used to tire the opposition, before attacking more directly later on. The intention here is not to ‘rank’ sides, but to show their different styles."out of which I extract further "being more or less efficient is not necessarily ‘better’ ". I rest my case.
I've been doing some more empirical research and stand by my statement that 5% or worse possession efficiency will get you relegated in the top leagues. However it looks like you can get away with higher figures the lower down the leagues you go so Rovers current stats may not be too bad after all. I need to do more work on this before I can give a definitive answer.
QuoteI'm talking about the 92 clubs within our 4 divisions. If 24 sides win without achieving the highest possession stat, every week. Then I think that proves your whole point is complete nonsenseI suspect that 24 sides don't win every week with less possession. Any way even if what you said is true then that means that 68 out of 92 clubs win with more possession. That's 74% of all clubs in the 4 divisions. I think you may have just shot yourself in the foot again.
Quote from: mjdgreg on October 01, 2012, 02:12:41 pmQuoteI'm talking about the 92 clubs within our 4 divisions. If 24 sides win without achieving the highest possession stat, every week. Then I think that proves your whole point is complete nonsenseI suspect that 24 sides don't win every week with less possession. Any way even if what you said is true then that means that 68 out of 92 clubs win with more possession. That's 74% of all clubs in the 4 divisions. I think you may have just shot yourself in the foot again.I didn't realise it was possible for 68 teams to win if there is only a maximum of 46 games between 92 clubs.
I didn't realise it was possible for 68 teams to win if there is only a maximum of 46 games between 92 clubs.