Who Got Thrown out At Hartlepool?

[donnievic]

He was one of the ones who entered game behind me, paralytic.
And who had to have 4 or 5 coppers drag him out as he was shouting n balling at them.

Which one in the pic is it like

[bobjimwilly]

And I'm sure the police are wetting themselves at that Scott lad's twitter "hobbies" list.  "Erm, hello your Honour.  Whats that?  Is hooliganism really my hobby?".  Maybe he can use #bangedup before they take his phone off him?

  what a muppet

[dickos1]

He was one of the ones who entered game behind me, paralytic.
And who had to have 4 or 5 coppers drag him out as he was shouting n balling at them.

Which one in the pic is it like

Guy in pink tie

[silent majority]

If a number of people got turned away at the gate for being intoxicated, where would they go then? It would just lead to more problems and we've already got enough as it is.

North of the border the law means you're arrested, but not in England & Wales.

Not true Standanista, its a criminal offence in England and Wales too, 'entering a sporting ground whilst unfit through drink and/or drugs'

[scuzzer]

How exactly do you take alcohol out of it, apart from prohibition.  Alcohol is widely available in grounds and outside.  Any solution that can't be implemented isn't worth discussing.

Quite simple, clubs have a duty to provide a safe and secure place to come to. Part of this is the control of those who are not able to make rational decisions. If "fans" decide to turn up drunk, they should not be allowed to enter the stadium, whether or not they have bought tickets. That is a decision that people on the gates should make, with the help of stewards.
I am definitely not saying that folks shouldn't have a drink if they want one or two, just don't turn up drunk.

This is b*llocks. Iv been to many a game during an all day drinking session and will be in Nottingham in 2 weeks.

Just because you have had a few drinks shouldn't stop you watching the game which is part of your day out.

For the record, of the games iv turned up drunk and enjoyed, iv been in 0 incidents.

See, not everyone out to enjoy themselves causes bother.

That's my plan for the day in Notts too Mush, that's what my weekends are for - to relax with a few beers at the match.

Let's not be judging everyone who has a pint past their lips before a game as a trouble causing arsehole.

[donnievic]

He was one of the ones who entered game behind me, paralytic.
And who had to have 4 or 5 coppers drag him out as he was shouting n balling at them.

Which one in the pic is it like

Guy in pink tie

Dont think he got arrested he was outside the ground at the final whistle,think he may od said his brother had been arrested

[MrFrost]

Define being unfit through drink.
2 pints? 3? 10?
If that's the case, I have broken the law several times.

[donnievic]

Define being unfit through drink.
2 pints? 3? 10?
If that's the case, I have broken the law several times.

Would say hardly being able to walk in a straight line would be a start like a few couldnt on sat

[MrFrost]

Define being unfit through drink.
2 pints? 3? 10?
If that's the case, I have broken the law several times.

Would say hardly being able to walk in a straight line would be a start like a few couldn't on sat

You'd still have to prove they had been drinking. It isn't an easily enforceable law, especially considering most sporting venue's sell alcohol once you're in them.
I don't see the issue. I intend to be drunk when I go to the Notts County game.

[Mr1Croft]

If a number of people got turned away at the gate for being intoxicated, where would they go then? It would just lead to more problems and we've already got enough as it is.

North of the border the law means you're arrested, but not in England & Wales.

Not true Standanista, its a criminal offence in England and Wales too, 'entering a sporting ground whilst unfit through drink and/or drugs'

See I made a point of this in 2007 when the trouble with the MillWall fans (which was a major incident) was blamed on fans being drunk, so why were they let in the first place? And why on that day did the Police escort the Millwall following from the train station to the White Rose pub?

[silent majority]

Define being unfit through drink.
2 pints? 3? 10?
If that's the case, I have broken the law several times.

But that's the problem, there is no definition, its usually down to the individual steward to make that assessment and then they can act as they see fit.
 
If they say you are drunk then you are.

[donnievic]

Define being unfit through drink.
2 pints? 3? 10?
If that's the case, I have broken the law several times.
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Would say hardly being able to walk in a straight line would be a start like a few couldn't on sat

You'd still have to prove they had been drinking. It isn't an easily enforceable law, especially considering most sporting venue's sell alcohol once you're in them.
I don't see the issue. I intend to be drunk when I go to the Notts County game.

Well it looked very easy on saturday they had been drinking,whether itt was alot or cant  handle their drink then who knows one was even spoken too about it aswell and god knows how he was allowed to stay in the ground

[MrFrost]

Define being unfit through drink.
2 pints? 3? 10?
If that's the case, I have broken the law several times.

But that's the problem, there is no definition, its usually down to the individual steward to make that assessment and then they can act as they see fit.
 
If they say you are drunk then you are.

I was almost ejected at Huddersfield several years ago because the Police said I was drunk. Funnily enough, I hadn't touched a drop and I was driving. Apparently, to them, standing up and shouting constitutes as being drunk.

[NorthNorfolkRover]

Im confused. I keep reading on here our fans are an embarressment for being boring sitting down and keeping quiet. Gets a bit boisterous (ie no real injuries) and they are still an embarressment.
Since the football authorities are running round like headless at the behest of a Bramhall Lane ball boy I wouldnt worry about it.

[IDM]

Drunk fans fighting amongst themselves, fans standing in front of those who want to sit, and some posters on here justifying that as all part of the game?

No wonder there's plenty of folks not going to the games!  When I pay my hard earned I want to watch the football - that's all it is, not to get plastered, not to get into a ruck with some yobs trying to prove they are hard, not to spoil someone else's fun.

By all means campaign for safe standing areas where it's easy for the more boisterous fans to stick together and for the other supporters to stay out of their way, but in the meantime, try respecting each other FFS!!!!

By the way, I'm not having a go at any individuals on here - I don't know any of you personally. 

[Colin C No.3]

My wife occasionally attends matches with me. My 6 year old niece may well attend too in the near future. If someone, anyone, was constantly using foul language when they were with me, I would ask them, politely, to stop. If they continued, I would draw their behaivour to a steward & expect them then to stop, or be ejected. It's not 'nice', it's not necessary & it's not on.

[The Red Baron]

http://twitter.com/paulgoodwinDFP

4 arrests on suspicion of affray and those arrested bailed to report back to the police in mid-November (which we kind of got from the chap who seemed keen to tell the world he'd been arrested). 11 others ejected.

A measured and sensible response from DRFC, who will be depending on the police and/or Hartlepool to notify them of any individuals before issuing bans. I'm concerned that Mr Goodwin is trying to turn an unsavoury disturbance into a full-scale riot. Maybe he just wants to see his story in the nationals.

[MrFrost]

http://twitter.com/paulgoodwinDFP

4 arrests on suspicion of affray and those arrested bailed to report back to the police in mid-November (which we kind of got from the chap who seemed keen to tell the world he'd been arrested). 11 others ejected.

A measured and sensible response from DRFC, who will be depending on the police and/or Hartlepool to notify them of any individuals before issuing bans. I'm concerned that Mr Goodwin is trying to turn an unsavoury disturbance into a full-scale riot. Maybe he just wants to see his story in the nationals.

Potentially 15 people could face bans of some description then.
Considering our numbers, it is a high amount.

[RoversAlias]

Club's issued a statement about this and comments have been made on the Facebook page in response to that statement. Not sure what people make of some of them, particularly some shots taken at our very posters on here:

https://www.facebook.com/doncasterroversfc

[Eagle eye]

That was my view of the incident. You can see it was more than 2 or 3 people arguing when the first steward arrived.

[MachoMadness]

Here's a better link. Hard to tell from this but it looks like only one or two actually fighting at this point... I assume it really kicked off after this was taken?

[MachoMadness]

Club's issued a statement about this and comments have been made on the Facebook page in response to that statement. Not sure what people make of some of them, particularly some shots taken at our very posters on here:

https://www.facebook.com/doncasterroversfc

f**king hell, some idiots on there. Do I need to be there to know that drunken arseholes starting fights is a bad thing?

Amazing how people don't know the difference between drinking and having a good time and fighting.

[MrFrost]

They ought to use their brains. Basically saying they were part of it, on the clubs official page isn't exactly going to make them hard to find.

[The L J Monk]

Interests now include: LFC Football Boxing DRFC UFC Comedy Football.

https://twitter.com/scott5richo

Must have lost interest in "hooliganism" overnight.

[MachoMadness]

Haha, well at least that proves he does have at least one brain cell. Wonder if that'll stand up in court.

"I didn't do nuffin, I don't even like hooliganism, check me Twitter!"

[donnievic]

Here's a better link. Hard to tell from this but it looks like only one or two actually fighting at this point... I assume it really kicked off after this was taken?

That was actually just before all the stewards and police got there,looks nearly all sorted out before the worse happened

[CJK]

It was never anywhere near 'nearly all sorted out'. One of the lads really wanted the other lad and wouldn't have it any other way, he was being restrained by two if not three other guys; I know because I'm in the photograph and saw it all from 3 yards away. The stewards came in and thats when everyone wanted a piece, once they'd thrown a punch and run off.

[Red wizard]

I'm in the photo as well and i stll think the stewards was to fast to act. Walk up and have a word. Had that happened then i don't think it would of been half as bad.

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Cringy

[hoolahoop]

Here's a better link. Hard to tell from this but it looks like only one or two actually fighting at this point... I assume it really kicked off after this was taken?

That was actually just before all the stewards and police got there,looks nearly all sorted out before the worse happened

Looks like there's an 'invisible' steward racing over the barrier to me .