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Quote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:39:55 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:36:14 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:30:52 pmPlay Maxted on Saturday. Anyone who defends Woods after what, the 4th (or 5th!?) error in 3 weeks needs their mental state evaluating. What planet are we on to persist with this clown!?I have said it many times before that it is a team game - how many times have our strikers missed a sitter, how many times have our midfield not prevented an attack and how many times have our defenders not defended well enough. You have to blame the team not just one individualCOYR A goalkeeper is charged with having to make less errors than the rest of the team due to the nature of the role. His position is the last line of defence, we can excuse the occasional mistake but when a goalkeeper is dropping the ball in the net costing us goals 4 times in a 4 week spell he is playing in the wrong position. It is as simple as that. I'm not blaming him for a bad team performance or whatever, I am blaming him for costing us goals with his errors which I feel I've every right to do.But are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR
Quote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:36:14 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:30:52 pmPlay Maxted on Saturday. Anyone who defends Woods after what, the 4th (or 5th!?) error in 3 weeks needs their mental state evaluating. What planet are we on to persist with this clown!?I have said it many times before that it is a team game - how many times have our strikers missed a sitter, how many times have our midfield not prevented an attack and how many times have our defenders not defended well enough. You have to blame the team not just one individualCOYR A goalkeeper is charged with having to make less errors than the rest of the team due to the nature of the role. His position is the last line of defence, we can excuse the occasional mistake but when a goalkeeper is dropping the ball in the net costing us goals 4 times in a 4 week spell he is playing in the wrong position. It is as simple as that. I'm not blaming him for a bad team performance or whatever, I am blaming him for costing us goals with his errors which I feel I've every right to do.
Quote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:30:52 pmPlay Maxted on Saturday. Anyone who defends Woods after what, the 4th (or 5th!?) error in 3 weeks needs their mental state evaluating. What planet are we on to persist with this clown!?I have said it many times before that it is a team game - how many times have our strikers missed a sitter, how many times have our midfield not prevented an attack and how many times have our defenders not defended well enough. You have to blame the team not just one individualCOYR
Play Maxted on Saturday. Anyone who defends Woods after what, the 4th (or 5th!?) error in 3 weeks needs their mental state evaluating. What planet are we on to persist with this clown!?
Quote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:36:14 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:30:52 pmPlay Maxted on Saturday. Anyone who defends Woods after what, the 4th (or 5th!?) error in 3 weeks needs their mental state evaluating. What planet are we on to persist with this clown!?I have said it many times before that it is a team game - how many times have our strikers missed a sitter, how many times have our midfield not prevented an attack and how many times have our defenders not defended well enough. You have to blame the team not just one individualCOYR Enough glosterred ........there are no more excuses for this. Yes it is a 'teamgame' and he shouldn't be in it. PERIOD.
Tis only half time but the way the game has gone is entirely down to our own making. Cannot see the point of selecting a midfield player who has proven not to be up to the job. There were another of other options that Flynn could have used including starting with Paynter and playing Hume in an advanced midfield role instead of Paynter. If he insisted we needed another holding midfielder, he could have played Griffin however tactically that would invite them on and, on they have come. The same formation as Saturday would have helped us to keep them more occupied. The back four are capable of protecting themselves without a nodding donkey playing on their toes and getting in everyone's way. Feel sorry for Lundstarm who the commentators are saying is having to do Harper's share of the work. I'll resist making any judgement about the goal but second half we need a change immediately otherwise we'll be 2 down before you know it.
But are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR
Quote from: drfcsteve on March 05, 2013, 08:44:25 pmMaxted is even worse than Woods....Based on what?
Maxted is even worse than Woods....
Quote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.
Take it you didn't go to any games preseason. Trust me, Woods is the best of the 3 keepers we've got on our books, which says all you need to know about our goalkeeping situation.
Quote from: Bristol Red Rover on March 05, 2013, 08:48:45 pmQuote from: drfcsteve on March 05, 2013, 08:44:25 pmMaxted is even worse than Woods....Based on what?Take it you didn't go to any games preseason. Trust me, Woods is the best of the 3 keepers we've got on our books, which says all you need to know about our goalkeeping situation.
Quote from: MachoMadness on March 05, 2013, 08:52:00 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR
Quote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:54:03 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on March 05, 2013, 08:52:00 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR Sorry gloster but that is a great example of something papering over the cracks. Our league position and the ability of outfield players are not good defences of Woods' individual ability.
Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR
Trust me, Woods is the best of the 3 keepers
Quote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:56:30 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:54:03 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on March 05, 2013, 08:52:00 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR Sorry gloster but that is a great example of something papering over the cracks. Our league position and the ability of outfield players are not good defences of Woods' individual ability.And how many saves has he made to keep us in games - no one is mentioning thatCOYR[/quoteQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:57:35 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:56:30 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:54:03 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on March 05, 2013, 08:52:00 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR Sorry gloster but that is a great example of something papering over the cracks. Our league position and the ability of outfield players are not good defences of Woods' individual ability.And how many saves has he made to keep us in games - no one is mentioning thatCOYRWell why don't you mention it then Glos and tell us?
Quote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:56:30 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:54:03 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on March 05, 2013, 08:52:00 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR Sorry gloster but that is a great example of something papering over the cracks. Our league position and the ability of outfield players are not good defences of Woods' individual ability.And how many saves has he made to keep us in games - no one is mentioning thatCOYR
I support the whole team (11 players plus subs) not 10 and have a go at the keeper at every opportunityCOYR
Quote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:57:35 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:56:30 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:54:03 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on March 05, 2013, 08:52:00 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR Sorry gloster but that is a great example of something papering over the cracks. Our league position and the ability of outfield players are not good defences of Woods' individual ability.And how many saves has he made to keep us in games - no one is mentioning thatCOYR[/quoteQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:57:35 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on March 05, 2013, 08:56:30 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:54:03 pmQuote from: MachoMadness on March 05, 2013, 08:52:00 pmQuote from: glosterred on March 05, 2013, 08:43:55 pmBut are you blaming the strikers for missing a goal - no you are not, the best way to win games is scoring goals, if the strikers don't do that we wont win. But no one blames them when they miss and we do not win - we jump on the blame the goalkeeper band wagonCOYR Goalkeepers get punished more for mistakes. Makes it all the more important that you have a reliable one, doesn't it? You can't compare Woods to a striker missing a chance, at all. Just because his job is less forgiving doesn't mean we should overcompensate and never blame him for anything when he clearly isn't good enough. We haven't played well but that doesn't mean we should tolerate Woods not doing his job properly, yet again.Oh, and "what about everyone else being rubbish" is not an valid argument for why you think Woods is a good keeper.Same keeper all season and top of the league - yet we complainCOYR Sorry gloster but that is a great example of something papering over the cracks. Our league position and the ability of outfield players are not good defences of Woods' individual ability.And how many saves has he made to keep us in games - no one is mentioning thatCOYRWell why don't you mention it then Glos and tell us?Countless times and you all know it but are just happy to have someone to have a go at - Woods is the new Lewis GuyCOYR