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Quote from: Chris Black come back on November 22, 2014, 08:58:31 pmMy understanding is that season ticket sales went down year on year from the first Championship season.However, don't know about the mythical beast that is the floating Rovers supporter.It is feasible that BB could be right about declining away supporters, although logic would suggest that it was our lot that buggered off, rather than Forest, Leeds, Newcastle etc.Unless someone can disprove BB with stats on overall home support, rather than just season tickets?Home/Away split at home games: Ave Att Home Visitors2008-09 11964 10449 15152009-10 10992 9582 14102010-11 10258 9058 12002011-12 9341 8000 13412012-13 7239 6814 425 (League 1)2013-14 9041 7130 1911So home support went down significantly each Championship season
My understanding is that season ticket sales went down year on year from the first Championship season.However, don't know about the mythical beast that is the floating Rovers supporter.It is feasible that BB could be right about declining away supporters, although logic would suggest that it was our lot that buggered off, rather than Forest, Leeds, Newcastle etc.Unless someone can disprove BB with stats on overall home support, rather than just season tickets?
Quote from: bfdoncaster west on November 24, 2014, 04:17:02 pmwhy can drfc not do thatIMHO not quite enough fans in the Championship (9k as opposed to 15K) , and not enough luck at the important times at that level. Several clubs have gone up to the Premiership on ca 15K average but none on 9K. What Swansea magnificently and nearly uniquely have achieved is the stability in the Prem (watch them drop like a stone now ).
In my opinion, selling Wellens and mills for f**k all, and letting green go without a proper fight killed the positive vibe at the club. This coincided with a hike in ticket prices, it stopped people coming and signalled the clubs (lack of) ambition.
Quote from: Dutch Uncle on November 24, 2014, 04:21:11 pmQuote from: bfdoncaster west on November 24, 2014, 04:17:02 pmwhy can drfc not do thatIMHO not quite enough fans in the Championship (9k as opposed to 15K) , and not enough luck at the important times at that level. Several clubs have gone up to the Premiership on ca 15K average but none on 9K. What Swansea magnificently and nearly uniquely have achieved is the stability in the Prem (watch them drop like a stone now ). Blackpool, Wigan, and burley went up on sub 15k crowds
In my opinion, selling Wellens and mills for f*** all, and letting green go without a proper fight killed the positive vibe at the club. This coincided with a hike in ticket prices, it stopped people coming and signalled the clubs (lack of) ambition.
Quote from: Boomstick on November 24, 2014, 06:04:30 pmIn my opinion, selling Wellens and mills for f*** all, and letting green go without a proper fight killed the positive vibe at the club. This coincided with a hike in ticket prices, it stopped people coming and signalled the clubs (lack of) ambition. £3.7m is f*** all to us then because remind me how many players we have sold for that amount? Selling Brian Deane for bugger all would be more apt but that wouldn't sit with your board bashing theories would it.
Quote from: bfdoncaster west on November 24, 2014, 03:52:30 pmhow did swansea fc do itGood questionIMHO they have a few advantages over Rovers. First their new ground is bigger than the Keepmoat (just over 20K) and they have managed to attract significantly better attendances than Rovers. (Their 3 seasons in League 1 and 3 in the Championship averaged 14112, 12728, 13520, 15195, 15407 and 15507). This puts them IMHO more or less one league above us. There is only Cardiff anywhere near and believe me not one Swansea person will ever go and support Cardiff in any sport - their challenge has been to take and keep supporters from within a Rugby dominated sporting nation. There has been some investment - I don't know figures but until they reached the Premier league and its riches I would guess their investment was some way less than say Bournemouth. They have had a succession of inspired choices of manager (except possibly Souza and he did no real harm) - in particular Martinez and Rodgers and have always stuck to a SOD-like passing game. They were probably much more fortunate than Rovers with injuries in the Championship, and won promotion through the playoffs - always needs some luck. What they have done really well is use the TV income of the Premiership brilliantly to stabilise, and of course winning the League Cup and having a season in Europe has also helped. They have also somehow had successful high scoring strikers (Scotland, Sinclair, Michu and now Bony)An example for all to follow ...................... if you can average 15K+ in the Championship.Edit: P.S. I am originally from Swansea and still follow their fortunes
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