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All this debate centres around the clubs poor implementation of the unreserved area and complete lack of consultation with affected people, we did n't seem to have these kind of problems 3 or 4 months ago under the previous Media and communications manager
Quote from: Filo on February 24, 2015, 08:34:21 amAll this debate centres around the clubs poor implementation of the unreserved area and complete lack of consultation with affected people, we did n't seem to have these kind of problems 3 or 4 months ago under the previous Media and communications managerAre you kidding me? Shaun skirted round every issue I ever took to him. Did you ever respond to Ryans offer on twitter? I'd be interested to know whether that's where your issues have stemmed from or whether your just a venemous Internet mouthpiece who shirks out of it when offered a chance to discuss it properly?
Yet you seem more than happy to shout out loud about 'fan engagement being abandoned' and that the previous Comms Manager spoke to you about relevant stuff to you. So answer me this Dave. What has unreserved seating in the South Stand or a group standing at Port Vale away have in terms if relevance to you?You seem to have missed my question also in my last post. I saw Ryan offer to ring you for a chat about your concerns. Did you take up that offer? You never know, you could have built something beautiful the way you and Shaun did.
Quote from: wesco1986 on February 24, 2015, 09:10:31 amQuote from: Filo on February 24, 2015, 08:34:21 amAll this debate centres around the clubs poor implementation of the unreserved area and complete lack of consultation with affected people, we did n't seem to have these kind of problems 3 or 4 months ago under the previous Media and communications managerAre you kidding me? Shaun skirted round every issue I ever took to him. Did you ever respond to Ryans offer on twitter? I'd be interested to know whether that's where your issues have stemmed from or whether your just a venemous Internet mouthpiece who shirks out of it when offered a chance to discuss it properly?Internet mouthpeice? Don't make me laugh!I had very healthy, prolonged and productive discussions with Shaun, he took the time out to contact me often to keep me updated on the specific disscusions we had and could n't have been more helpful if he tried, but rather than shout this from the rooftops I mentioned it briefly in one or two posts.Don't forget it was this internet mouthpeice that only last week proposed that myself, Lewis and GB sit around a table and discuss his leading question he asked at meet the owners, this internet mouthpeice did n't get a response to that proposal!
Exactly Boomstick... And the reason why we didn't have these issues when Shaun was around is because the club never did anything to create any issues!Fair play to Ryan for coming in and being prepared to not only listen to fans, but put plans into action and not be afraid of upsetting a few people when he does,
Quote from: wesco1986 on February 24, 2015, 09:49:58 amYet you seem more than happy to shout out loud about 'fan engagement being abandoned' and that the previous Comms Manager spoke to you about relevant stuff to you. So answer me this Dave. What has unreserved seating in the South Stand or a group standing at Port Vale away have in terms if relevance to you?You seem to have missed my question also in my last post. I saw Ryan offer to ring you for a chat about your concerns. Did you take up that offer? You never know, you could have built something beautiful the way you and Shaun did.Wes, it has no relevence to me, but that should n't prevent me from commenting about how they implemented it, and Ryan did n't offer to ring me, he wanted me to ring him
Quote from: Filo on February 24, 2015, 09:54:01 amQuote from: wesco1986 on February 24, 2015, 09:49:58 amYet you seem more than happy to shout out loud about 'fan engagement being abandoned' and that the previous Comms Manager spoke to you about relevant stuff to you. So answer me this Dave. What has unreserved seating in the South Stand or a group standing at Port Vale away have in terms if relevance to you?You seem to have missed my question also in my last post. I saw Ryan offer to ring you for a chat about your concerns. Did you take up that offer? You never know, you could have built something beautiful the way you and Shaun did.Wes, it has no relevence to me, but that should n't prevent me from commenting about how they implemented it, and Ryan did n't offer to ring me, he wanted me to ring himDid you call him then ?
And yet another thread hi-jacked and gone off topic
Quote from: ravenrover on February 24, 2015, 12:30:18 pmAnd yet another thread hi-jacked and gone off topicExactly. Where's the moderator in all this?
Quote from: Jenny on February 24, 2015, 11:19:50 amExactly Boomstick... And the reason why we didn't have these issues when Shaun was around is because the club never did anything to create any issues!Fair play to Ryan for coming in and being prepared to not only listen to fans, but put plans into action and not be afraid of upsetting a few people when he does,That's unfair Jenny, most of these plans were already being discussed whilst Shaun was here. Shaun worked tirelessly in the background for a long time (he was the first to catch on to IRWT) and had two disruptive takeover bids to cope with which diverted all his time and attention.
Whilst they may have been discussed, he didn't implement them. My view of Shaun was that he was always happy to discuss but when push come to shove, decisions were not always made.As for the takeover being disruptive, he was communication and media manager, he should have stuck to his day job and been given the chance to by his employers and then perhaps his time and attention could have been more useful.I personally think Ryan is a breath of fresh air at the club, as do most that I have spoken to. It just seems to be a small pocket who is disputing what he is doing.