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Quote from: wilts rover on July 17, 2015, 07:00:24 pmOh dear Wheatleylad, only been on here a couple of weeks and you are already falling into the old 'madmickism' of doing exactly the same as that you are critising other people for.I don't why you seem to be convinced that I am the other person. I am not. Is it so hard to believe that there may be more than one person who disagrees with some people on here? I have not personally attacked or abused anybody on here. I challenge their opinions , not attack the person. perhaps you could try and do the same?
Oh dear Wheatleylad, only been on here a couple of weeks and you are already falling into the old 'madmickism' of doing exactly the same as that you are critising other people for.
I cannot believe the politically motivated comments being made here. No amount of socialist ranting can change the facts......A bit of common sense please and less armchair politics. Live in the real world.
History a yorkshiremans perspectiveHow does this work out.Germany and England go to war mainly over cash.Millions die after being fed propoganda about the kieser bill killing babies.The 1st world war ends never to be repeated .We have homes fit for heroes promised by Lloyd George and the potential for revolution is thwarted as thousands of armed wage slaves return to the pits and squaler.Meanwhile Germany are made to pay through the versailes treaty so history doesnt epeat itself.Enter Adolf who offers the Germans a way out blaming the nasty commies for their plight.He is democratically elected in publishing a book in which he turns against the jews for all to see.He invades one democracy after another.The Uk dont get involved until Poland is threatened as good old England has investments there.Enter Churchill who has flexed his muscles threatening Welsh miners with tanks.We win the war but this times the spoils are divided up between the victors.The marshall plan is born.This is the scheme were millions of pounds of tax payers money is spent rebuilding their economy.Meanwhile the UK enjoys relative prosperity with the birth of the NHS and the welfare state.Concensus politics ensues backed by keynes economics.Labour dont try and nationalise the chip shops and the tories agree its a bad idea not to privatise everything.We have peace yupee.However, nobody notices or appears bothered that wars are being fought by proxy in other peoples back yardsBy the new superpowers USA and USSR.Fast forward 50 odd years and we have the likes of Thatcher imposing the new economic monetarist bible on our population being told by the Yanks through the IMF that the welfare state has to go.By this time of course we have had the winter of discontent were a democratically elected labour government have been blackmailed into renading on its manifesto.Multinational corporations and unacountable faceless bankers look to short term gains oblivious to the suffering around them as the decline in manufacturing means workers are no longer needed to maximise profits.When the brown stuff inevitably hits the fan , who do we blame.The Greek people for not living within their means.For Gods sake people how does that work.
Bejasus! He's a bloody recidivist as well...BobG
First things first. I'm very disappointed in the lack of paragraphs and the spelling mistakes. It has really made my piss boil. I'd be here all day if I corrected all the errors so I'll just do a few. 'versaiiles treaty' should be Versailles Treaty.
Quote from: wheatleylad on July 24, 2015, 03:02:22 pmQuote from: wilts rover on July 17, 2015, 07:00:24 pmOh dear Wheatleylad, only been on here a couple of weeks and you are already falling into the old 'madmickism' of doing exactly the same as that you are critising other people for.I don't why you seem to be convinced that I am the other person. I am not. Is it so hard to believe that there may be more than one person who disagrees with some people on here? I have not personally attacked or abused anybody on here. I challenge their opinions , not attack the person. perhaps you could try and do the same?Yes you have:Quote from: wheatleylad on July 17, 2015, 06:45:40 pmI cannot believe the politically motivated comments being made here. No amount of socialist ranting can change the facts......A bit of common sense please and less armchair politics. Live in the real world.Those sentences are not challenging anyone's opinion, they are attacking people for posting - in a similar way to a well known previous poster. I was not attacking you, I was giving you advice, however unlikely you are to take it. I don't disagree with your opinions...I don't agree with them either...but as a 'new' poster I suggest, again, you leave out the derogatory comments when posting them.
Quote from: IC1967 on July 25, 2015, 12:43:36 amFirst things first. I'm very disappointed in the lack of paragraphs and the spelling mistakes. It has really made my piss boil. I'd be here all day if I corrected all the errors so I'll just do a few. 'versaiiles treaty' should be Versailles Treaty. No it shouldn't, it should be the Treaty of Versailles. If you are going to come on here and pick out faults with wot other people have ritten - then at least make sure you know what you are talking about.I only have one issue with donnyproletarian post, the Marshall Plan didn't just rebuild the German economy after WWII, it rebuilt ours. We recieved more than twice as much money from it as they did.
Ic whatever, I will take it as a compliment that you can only slag off my grammer and not the content of my viewpoint.NEXT PARAGRAPHI seldom get to laugh which is why I like to visit this forum and read your verbal masturbation on the many issues you are expert inNEXT PARAGRAPHxaRemember that history is written by the victors.I could go on about the hidden cirriculum and the brainwashing process that goes on in our education system but I cant be harsed , sorry meant arsed.In my defence I could go on about my struggle with manual dexterity , thick fingers in negotiating this new tablet.I could also mitigate my grammer errors by by polnting out that I was on my fifth pint.However ,on reflection the only thing I would add to the debate is that we should remember that Greece is the birthplace of democracy and that Pluto, sorry Plato , would be turning in his grave if he could see the younger generations being penalised for a system they have had no control over.What the Greek youth need to do is to push there elected leaders into carrying out the mandate they are there for.Personally I would nationalise the commanding hights of the economy and place them under workers control.Then we need to follow suit so the nasty greedy bankers have no place to hide.Welcome back my false consious deluded right wing buddy.Carry on with your school teacher bully boy tactics , they do more for the cause of socialism than I ever could.PS Are you sure your not one of those agent provocitares dudes
It's f***ing obvious who it is. The only way it could be more obvious is if he had a f***off hippo with a neon sign on its side reading "I'm Mick" as his avatar.
Quote from: RedJ on July 24, 2015, 07:44:47 pmIt's f***ing obvious who it is. The only way it could be more obvious is if he had a f***off hippo with a neon sign on its side reading "I'm Mick" as his avatar.You really are obsessed with this "Mick" who you refer to. For the last time....I am not that person. Why do you insist on stating that I am? As I have said, is it too much for you to accept that there might be other people who challenge your opinions? I really find it funny that you obsess about him.he disagrees with you and you plainly cannot handle it. All I can surmise is that you are an inexperienced adolescent, who lives on social media and not the real world.Get over yourself.
Oh dear, oh dear. Mick's now started replying to himself using another of his many different personas. Mick owd lad. You developing schizophrenia? It sure does look like it man. I've been worried for quite some time now by this pathetic rush to reply to your own posts. But now you've started doing it as one of the random imaginary friends you've created, well, the achizophrenia has just jumped to a whole new level. Get help man. Before it's too late. You're really starting to sink now.BobG
Quote from: BobG on July 27, 2015, 05:42:16 pmOh dear, oh dear. Mick's now started replying to himself using another of his many different personas. Mick owd lad. You developing schizophrenia? It sure does look like it man. I've been worried for quite some time now by this pathetic rush to reply to your own posts. But now you've started doing it as one of the random imaginary friends you've created, well, the achizophrenia has just jumped to a whole new level. Get help man. Before it's too late. You're really starting to sink now.BobGI just had a thought Bob; perhaps his multiple personalities are not aware of each other?That would explain everything.
Look. Its very simple. I am IC1967 and do not have an alter ego 'wheatleylad'.You lefties have to realise that there are people in this world that think along similar lines. It doesn't mean they are the same person.There is one piece of evidence that categorically proves I'm not wheatleylad. He agreed with some of BST's opinions! Nothing wrong with that but can any of you ever recall me agreeing with anything BST has said? No. I didn't think so.Once and for all, we are two different people.I'm quite happy for the mods to confirm this. They will be able to see we have different I.P. addresses.Once confirmed, I expect those doubters amongst you to issue an immediate abject apology to wheatleylad. You might also stop being so rude to him for no reason.IC1967
Just returned from my holiday and noticed this thread was still alive. I was hoping for some rational debate from anyone with a differing view, but those that like to label anyone left of Mussolini a 'leftie' have just acted like a petty w**ker in correcting some errors into their version of English. People who skim over any actual content and contribution (as they have no reasoned response) is the sign of a sociopath, which explains why you endorse right wing, illiterate economics, so blindly. I cant understand how anyone in a working class town would uphold any ideal that they are so far from being part of. Its obvious some people just spout for the sake of attention, in any measure.Donny Proletarian; are you involved at all in the Doncaster People's Assembly?
Another one who prefers to promote his own version of English language rather than offer rational debate. Your posts on the Labour leadership thread are also very contradictory to what you have posted here, although im sure yourself and no one else cares as your objectives in posting are clearly not to discuss, but rather entertain yourself.
You want Corbyn to win the Labour leadership and start practicing left wing politics within the only threat to the Tory regime? You have placed large bets on him at 10/1. So not only do you somewhere see the sense in his ideas and how many Labour supporters are crying out for someone to ditch the Tory-lite approach, but you have also placed your hard earned cash, confident that he will win. Why, unless you just came on here to get into arguments, wherever you possibly can, would you do what you have done?Your effectively blowing the trumpet of the biggest left wing voice there is in this country at this time.
Which policies do you not see any sense in and why? Id love to see some real counter-debate from you, but of course this would probably take a few days for you to read up and form some rationale on. Why do you oppose the Royal Family? Single biggest demonstration of inequality? Proof that we have a dated 'master and servant' society? Surely you would want a Balirite to win so that way, your beloved, self serving, right wing approach would be upheld either way, rather than having Corbyn rally the troops and give long time Labour voters and fence sitters something to get behind.