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What i would like to know is why is it other owners, it doesn't come out how much they put in a season?. What doesn't get said is all the lost opportunties to get players that other teams took the chance on, and sold on for a profit.It's been going on years at our place short sighted, never thinking ahead, if the club continues being run like this, we don't have a chance of doing well.
Quote from: Sammy Chung was King on February 21, 2016, 12:12:35 amWhat i would like to know is why is it other owners, it doesn't come out how much they put in a season?. What doesn't get said is all the lost opportunties to get players that other teams took the chance on, and sold on for a profit.It's been going on years at our place short sighted, never thinking ahead, if the club continues being run like this, we don't have a chance of doing well.We sign players on two year contracts and are trying to bring members of our own youth team through into the first team. Yet if we followed your line of postings we would be bringing in several new players each week. And you say the club is being short-sighted!!!You would certainly be within your rights to say that the players we have brought in over the past couple of seasons have not been of sufficent quality, and that the youth team players are not up to League 1 standard, but that is a completly different argument. And it would also ignore that at one time you rated several of the players who have turned out not to be as good as their past reputations.
Quote from: wilts rover on February 21, 2016, 11:37:49 amQuote from: Sammy Chung was King on February 21, 2016, 12:12:35 amWhat i would like to know is why is it other owners, it doesn't come out how much they put in a season?. What doesn't get said is all the lost opportunties to get players that other teams took the chance on, and sold on for a profit.It's been going on years at our place short sighted, never thinking ahead, if the club continues being run like this, we don't have a chance of doing well.We sign players on two year contracts and are trying to bring members of our own youth team through into the first team. Yet if we followed your line of postings we would be bringing in several new players each week. And you say the club is being short-sighted!!!You would certainly be within your rights to say that the players we have brought in over the past couple of seasons have not been of sufficent quality, and that the youth team players are not up to League 1 standard, but that is a completly different argument. And it would also ignore that at one time you rated several of the players who have turned out not to be as good as their past reputations.I suggest players just like everybody else, and yes if you signed all those i suggested it would be standing room only!. We are doing things better signing player on slightly longer contracts, the youth system is encouraging Mandeville, Middleton and Lund look as though they have a good chance.What i mean by short sighted, an example we have Adam Hammill training with us, we don't sign up one of the best wingers in this league.It's well known how good he is, he leaves training with us to sign for Barnsley, he along with a few more improve their perfomances, they end up climbing the table and going to wembley. Who judges player talent?, because we have lost countless players even over just two or three years.There is looking after the pennies because we don't get great crowds, then there's weighing up that you have the chance of signing a winger, that will help Williams get his 20-25 goals a season.
Apart from Hammill should we have signed the other 2 players that signed for Barnsley,because they were brilliant for them.
Do people seriously think signing players like gooch and the kid from Stoke are a sign of intent??? I've given up now, because it's clear that there's no money being put in to strengthen the side and going with all available facts.... Relegation and 100 decrease in attendances also Baldwin and co have done exactly the same to the Dons...all in all the people running the club haven't a clue on running a successful club and the facts are clear and can't be argued against
Quote from: drfc1951 on February 22, 2016, 07:58:05 amApart from Hammill should we have signed the other 2 players that signed for Barnsley,because they were brilliant for them.OK "trial" might be a bit loose but do you remember a very good centre back who we had on loan but went from us to Barnsley because they paid him more?Someone who would have made a hell of a difference had we signed him permanently?
Quote from: Yorkiered on February 22, 2016, 08:01:57 amQuote from: drfc1951 on February 22, 2016, 07:58:05 amApart from Hammill should we have signed the other 2 players that signed for Barnsley,because they were brilliant for them.OK "trial" might be a bit loose but do you remember a very good centre back who we had on loan but went from us to Barnsley because they paid him more?Someone who would have made a hell of a difference had we signed him permanently?Aye. Do you remember that we bought Billy Sharp at that time?
Quote from: raggytash on February 22, 2016, 08:16:32 amDo people seriously think signing players like gooch and the kid from Stoke are a sign of intent??? I've given up now, because it's clear that there's no money being put in to strengthen the side and going with all available facts.... Relegation and 100 decrease in attendances also Baldwin and co have done exactly the same to the Dons...all in all the people running the club haven't a clue on running a successful club and the facts are clear and can't be argued against Why is it clear were not investing in players? We've signed the two you mention because only the loan market is open, people who keep mentioning these two strangely forget to mention grant and Anderson,
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 22, 2016, 09:34:35 amQuote from: Yorkiered on February 22, 2016, 08:01:57 amQuote from: drfc1951 on February 22, 2016, 07:58:05 amApart from Hammill should we have signed the other 2 players that signed for Barnsley,because they were brilliant for them.OK "trial" might be a bit loose but do you remember a very good centre back who we had on loan but went from us to Barnsley because they paid him more?Someone who would have made a hell of a difference had we signed him permanently?Aye. Do you remember that we bought Billy Sharp at that time?I am confused as to what Billy Sharp has to do with Barnsley?
Quote from: dickos1 on February 22, 2016, 11:53:47 amQuote from: raggytash on February 22, 2016, 08:16:32 amDo people seriously think signing players like gooch and the kid from Stoke are a sign of intent??? I've given up now, because it's clear that there's no money being put in to strengthen the side and going with all available facts.... Relegation and 100 decrease in attendances also Baldwin and co have done exactly the same to the Dons...all in all the people running the club haven't a clue on running a successful club and the facts are clear and can't be argued against Why is it clear were not investing in players? We've signed the two you mention because only the loan market is open, people who keep mentioning these two strangely forget to mention grant and Anderson, When we signed the two mentioned the permanent window was open
Quote from: Yorkiered on February 22, 2016, 09:58:54 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on February 22, 2016, 09:34:35 amQuote from: Yorkiered on February 22, 2016, 08:01:57 amQuote from: drfc1951 on February 22, 2016, 07:58:05 amApart from Hammill should we have signed the other 2 players that signed for Barnsley,because they were brilliant for them.OK "trial" might be a bit loose but do you remember a very good centre back who we had on loan but went from us to Barnsley because they paid him more?Someone who would have made a hell of a difference had we signed him permanently?Aye. Do you remember that we bought Billy Sharp at that time?I am confused as to what Billy Sharp has to do with Barnsley?I'm surprised that you're confused. I assumed it was bleeding obvious. We used a not inconsiderable sum of money to prioritise the signing of Sharp. That was the biggest signing by far in the club's history, and was utterly unjustified by the club's income. In other words, it required huge investment and commitment from the owners. Expecting us also to sign a player as talented and expensive as Shackell is a nice aspiration, but perhaps a little optimistic. Barnsley chose to prioritise Shackell. They couldn't afford Shackell and a player as good as Sharp. That's life. You can be given a cream bun and be happy about it, or you can moan that it wasn't served to you by a big titted blonde who wanted to satisfy your every carnal wish.
Burton on the last day could be the easiest game of all if they've won the league and are all in holiday mode by then.
Quote from: MrWoodySir on February 22, 2016, 03:38:34 pmQuote from: Rigoglioso on February 22, 2016, 03:26:12 pmBurton on the last day could be the easiest game of all if they've won the league and are all in holiday mode by then.You seem to be forgetting who we played and what position they were in the last time we got relegated from the championship... That's irrelevant to how Burton Albion might perform in a similar situation.
Quote from: Rigoglioso on February 22, 2016, 03:26:12 pmBurton on the last day could be the easiest game of all if they've won the league and are all in holiday mode by then.You seem to be forgetting who we played and what position they were in the last time we got relegated from the championship...
Why do people reckon Andy Williams chose us over the other clubs interested in a 20 goal striker?