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My big worry is the fact that older people were more likely to vote out, which has influenced it massively. Voters who will not be here to see the ramifications of such a vote.That being said, the wheel keeps turning...
Quote from: RoverAtUni on June 24, 2016, 09:12:20 amMy big worry is the fact that older people were more likely to vote out, which has influenced it massively. Voters who will not be here to see the ramifications of such a vote.That being said, the wheel keeps turning...And why would they do that?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on June 24, 2016, 09:15:12 amQuote from: RoverAtUni on June 24, 2016, 09:12:20 amMy big worry is the fact that older people were more likely to vote out, which has influenced it massively. Voters who will not be here to see the ramifications of such a vote.That being said, the wheel keeps turning...And why would they do that? I don't agree with that at all..For me what this result has shown is that the North South divide is wider than ever...70-30 up here changed the vote...Northern people are fed up of our industries been closed and none of the benefits filtering up the M1,and the labour heartlands have rejected it to a overwhelming degree...Whether that's because Corbyn decided to not engage in the campaign at all or they can never bring themselves to vote with a tory I couldn't guess but that's whats made the difference,not the pensioners...
They think they are overrun now, wait to see what happens over the next 24 months as migrants will flood over before the EU divorce is finalised
A net population increase of between 0.25 and 0.5% depending which stats you believe doesn't lead to services being stretched to breaking point. A huge cut in funding coupled with an ageing population with older people disproportionately more likely to require healthcare does that but hey-ho, let's blame Johnny Foreigner.
TRBI don't think you get how politics works. No one could survive a snub like that. Well folks. You've made your beds. Welcome to a country in which Gove, Farage and Johnson are in charge. Sweet f**king Jesus.
Quote from: bobjimwilly on June 24, 2016, 10:05:40 amThey think they are overrun now, wait to see what happens over the next 24 months as migrants will flood over before the EU divorce is finalisedFree movement will stay in replace regardless
It seems the remainers don't like democracy, lots of dummies being spit out throughout the Country
Quote from: MrFrost on June 24, 2016, 10:07:05 amQuote from: bobjimwilly on June 24, 2016, 10:05:40 amThey think they are overrun now, wait to see what happens over the next 24 months as migrants will flood over before the EU divorce is finalisedFree movement will stay in replace regardlessIf you mean until we leave then I suppose that is true - but if the Leavers are to believed once we are out then an Australian style Points system will be adopted. That will still mean we need loads of Doctors Nurses and other vocations will be needed and those with the right "skill sets" will get in.... and they are to be believed surely ?
Quote from: Mike_F on June 24, 2016, 10:14:49 amA net population increase of between 0.25 and 0.5% depending which stats you believe doesn't lead to services being stretched to breaking point. A huge cut in funding coupled with an ageing population with older people disproportionately more likely to require healthcare does that but hey-ho, let's blame Johnny Foreigner.Hey-ho lets blame the pensioners then, that have worked hard all their lives and paid their taxes,and fought wars.
Motion of no confidence now against Corbyn
Quote from: drfc1951 on June 24, 2016, 10:43:40 amQuote from: Mike_F on June 24, 2016, 10:14:49 amA net population increase of between 0.25 and 0.5% depending which stats you believe doesn't lead to services being stretched to breaking point. A huge cut in funding coupled with an ageing population with older people disproportionately more likely to require healthcare does that but hey-ho, let's blame Johnny Foreigner.Hey-ho lets blame the pensioners then, that have worked hard all their lives and paid their taxes,and fought wars. FFS... I'm not "blaming" pensioners for getting ill. I'm simply stating a fact that older people need more care. We've got more older people and less money going into care provision ergo services are stretched. Immigration (EU or otherwise) isn't to blame but the out campaign made a great play of making out that it is.
Quote from: Mike_F on June 24, 2016, 11:31:40 amQuote from: drfc1951 on June 24, 2016, 10:43:40 amQuote from: Mike_F on June 24, 2016, 10:14:49 amA net population increase of between 0.25 and 0.5% depending which stats you believe doesn't lead to services being stretched to breaking point. A huge cut in funding coupled with an ageing population with older people disproportionately more likely to require healthcare does that but hey-ho, let's blame Johnny Foreigner.Hey-ho lets blame the pensioners then, that have worked hard all their lives and paid their taxes,and fought wars. FFS... I'm not "blaming" pensioners for getting ill. I'm simply stating a fact that older people need more care. We've got more older people and less money going into care provision ergo services are stretched. Immigration (EU or otherwise) isn't to blame but the out campaign made a great play of making out that it is. I payed my taxes for over 50years and still do as a pensioner.I voted leave because I voted in back in 1975.The EU in it's present form is not what I and many others wanted.We were unlikely to change policy from within so I voted leave.I'm nearly 68 but hope to Live long enough to see my vote proved right in the long run.
Quote from: MrFrost on June 24, 2016, 12:25:53 pmMotion of no confidence now against CorbynGood. He cannot survive this. His leadership over this issue has been disastrous. If he had come out with energy and enthusiasm for the EU, we'd be in a different world today. He is an utter calamity and he's as much to blame for this result as Cameron.
Idler, I do wonder living in a city like Bradford as you do, with a long and complex history of migration, how you make such a seemingly simple distinction between foreigner and native. Genuine question?