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Excepting that the brightest pupils often do not perform or achieve their full potential in a comprehensive environment. Too much teaching time is wasted with behavioural and discipline issues. If the country wants excellence then motivate and fast track the high achievers.Good luck.
My own experience of Comps is that they are a waste of resources,I recall visiting Armthorpe for a day, there were 7 youths stood out in the corridors during one period and two more were being marched (very meekly) to the heads office.In my day they would have got a pasting off the few effective teachers or the cane or slipper off the heads.No wonder it under achieves so miserably and it's typical of the schools in our under achieving borough.
I for one welcome Mays Grammar school programme as soon as we see 4 or 5 in Doncaster we will see an uplift in the areas academic performance.I am speaking through my own experience of having Attende Adwick Comp in the 70's two thirds of the kids didn't want to be there and therefore didn't want to know I got lumped into a class of 'Mongers' in Maths and English for the first two years our teachers didn't want to challenge the behaviour hence every time I opened my text book in maths one of the gang of morons I had been made to sit with would spit in it!!! Hence I left school with Cse 2 in Maths and somehow scrapped a 1 in English.My plight only improved when the gang decided to beat me up after school sadly it went very badly for them as they hadn't studied the story of horatorious on the Tiber bridge and didn't realise that Sproty Could fight like a Tiger.One broken nose and three black eyes later they learnt to behave in class.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 12, 2016, 04:51:30 pmMy own experience of Comps is that they are a waste of resources,I recall visiting Armthorpe for a day, there were 7 youths stood out in the corridors during one period and two more were being marched (very meekly) to the heads office.In my day they would have got a pasting off the few effective teachers or the cane or slipper off the heads.No wonder it under achieves so miserably and it's typical of the schools in our under achieving borough.Its very difficult to have a conversation about standards of schooling and improvements in education when someone regards schools as 'a waste of resources'.In your view/opinion, what should happen to the vast majority of Doncaster schoolchildren, several thousand I presume, who are going to be left behind when a Grammar School opens? Do you really think that no resources should be allocated to them?
Wilts those kids have already voluntarily jumped the bus,they are already disruptive and ruining the education of kids around them who want to achieve.Why should the Kids who want to learn be hindered by the mindless few,who incidentally soak up most of the teaching resources in their respective schools..
Quote from: Sprotyrover on September 12, 2016, 10:29:59 pmWilts those kids have already voluntarily jumped the bus,they are already disruptive and ruining the education of kids around them who want to achieve.Why should the Kids who want to learn be hindered by the mindless few,who incidentally soak up most of the teaching resources in their respective schools..Correct. When I was at Danum 20 years ago (shit, I'm getting old!) I was mistakenly put into set 4 for Geography and the kids in there had no interest whatsoever in learning anything. At the end of the first lesson I went to have a word with the teacher and was moved to set 1 immediately. The relief was incredible, I felt like I'd been incarcerated!As long as comprehensives continue to use sets to keep the idiots from distracting the brighter kids there's no need for Grammars.
There were four Grammar schools in Donny I ' m sure that the kids who went to them came from families that were interested in their kids education,that's not a middle class thing it' should be the ideal of all caring parents.