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I stopped reading at he gets extra leeway because of who his dad is.Look at his past record and our past record giving managers time.
To me he get's more leeway than other managers just because of who his dad is. You can't tell me that Dickov or any of the others would get the same patience. There is a kudos to our small time thinking to have him involved with us-''His old man might turn up and watch a few games!.He inherited a mess he got things turned around when it wasn't expected that we would stay up then just as hopes were raised the team hit an almost impossibly bad run of form and got relegated. The teams confidence and direction comes from the manager his press interviews and the players smacked of 'Job done-guess what it wasn't!.Last season he built a side and he got us promoted and he did a good job but yet again taking things for granted near the end in my opinion and we lost a title that was almost impossible to lose. There is something about him or his character that stops him winning trophies. Yes he has quite a few promotions on his cv so obviously has talent as a manager but there is a problem coming from him just in his time with us in maintaining the squad concentration.He is the leader you can make all the excuses you want he has been supported as much as the board feels able to and he has chosen the players who pull on our shirt.My opinion is we've had one great month this season and this month has been terrible just looking at the cold hard facts of results. Having other managers saying you're the best team they have played so far doesn't get you three points.We have taken a jump in class in being promoted so you have to expect a period of adaption to the league-the jump isn't massive but there are less weaker teams to beat up on.Look throughout his managerial career and he has a habit of having sides who are 'flaky' defensively. Our side still lacks at times the mental toughness to see out a game or even a season.At this level you need five or six solid dependable players then you add your bits of class around them. You need defenders who can defend, midfielders who do a bit of both defending and attacking and you need strikers who put the ball in the net.Football is over complicated at times for me we don't have enough of those solid dependable types we are overbalanced with players who are fantastic on their day but can't do it on a regular basis.Some of you will come back with ''If they were consistent they wouldn't be in league one!-that's rubbish. O'Driscoll, Saunders or any other manager in any league can get that consistency and to win things they have to be. It isn't easy if it was we could manage the side!.If i was the manager i would be looking at myself on where i am going wrong. Am i recruiting the wrong players?-Do i have a personality that get's over confident at crucial times?. I would be saying to myself why don't i win trophies why do i fall short on that front?.If you are going to win titles you need a settled back four. In midfield we have good technical players but where is the hard work? where are the ball winners?. How long is it since we had a regular out and out left footed left winger?.As promising as Alfie May is why has he left Marquis on the bench when he got all those goals last season?.For me we all have the right to ask these questions. I don't personally think it's the right time to be letting him go he's had one good and one bad month. He needs to be getting in a defensive minded coach-he needs to be playing a settled team. He needs a few characters in the place proper men in the midfield not just wishy washy in and out merchants who are great on their day.We still need a few who will put they're foot in so the technical players can play. He needs energy but also experience in there not kids from youth teams.I'm not sure the manager is the type who weighs up if it's him or not i don't know the fella personally but he is obviously not quite getting the results that his talent mostly deserves it needs a tweak here and there he's not far off. Tactically he's pretty good you can't have too many formations at this level it confuses matters. I don't see a team on the pitch that makes decisions and thinks for itself.Between the man at the top and the players there are improvements to be made. Never mind ''Let's consolidate!-you can't write seasons off like that.He needs time but also needs to improve as do the players. Yes we've been playing quite well but every team needs good results. When things are going wrong work harder!.
he gets so much leeway cos of he is sorting the club from bottom upwards and because we are not a sacking club it has nothing to do with his dad, if we sacked managers as much as some on here we would be changing managers every other month, stay with the club and we will come right
I think it works the other way too. A lot of people dislike him and want him out just because of who his dad is. I think he's doing a good job, we are playing entertaining football and I'm sure results will come. I don't think we'll get relegated which for me will be a successful season and we can push on next year.
Quote from: the vicar on October 04, 2017, 09:41:53 amhe gets so much leeway cos of he is sorting the club from bottom upwards and because we are not a sacking club it has nothing to do with his dad, if we sacked managers as much as some on here we would be changing managers every other month, stay with the club and we will come right don't often agree with you vicar, but
Quote from: bobjimwilly on October 04, 2017, 09:58:46 amQuote from: the vicar on October 04, 2017, 09:41:53 amhe gets so much leeway cos of he is sorting the club from bottom upwards and because we are not a sacking club it has nothing to do with his dad, if we sacked managers as much as some on here we would be changing managers every other month, stay with the club and we will come right don't often agree with you vicar, but I also agree. We've been waiting years for somebody to grab hold of the playing side of this club and put it into some kind of shape, academy, youth and 1st team all needed it. We also don't want a reputation as a sacking club because when you do want to recruit someone decent you won't have the applicants.
Youth team are currently well adrift at bottom of NE Alliance league with just 2 points from 6 games, U23's lost every game since being reintroduced and first team are struggling to get results in the league as we all know. Hes not exactly taking hold of the 'playing side' is he really.
Quote from: silent majority on October 04, 2017, 04:27:19 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on October 04, 2017, 09:58:46 amQuote from: the vicar on October 04, 2017, 09:41:53 amhe gets so much leeway cos of he is sorting the club from bottom upwards and because we are not a sacking club it has nothing to do with his dad, if we sacked managers as much as some on here we would be changing managers every other month, stay with the club and we will come right don't often agree with you vicar, but I also agree. We've been waiting years for somebody to grab hold of the playing side of this club and put it into some kind of shape, academy, youth and 1st team all needed it. We also don't want a reputation as a sacking club because when you do want to recruit someone decent you won't have the applicants.We're hardly going to get a reputation as a sacking club considering our recent history with managers after relegation.
Irony - no, just posting fact that the youth team are presently bottom of their league with a terrible record and the U23s haven't won a game yet. It is also apparent that the 1st team are currently struggling to get results.You argued that we had been waiting years for somebody to grab hold of the playing side of the club.However much you prefer to look to the future (shall we say long-termism) the reality is that the 'playing side' of football is a results business and the above all indicate that Ferguson currently hasn't got a grip on it.
Quote from: RedJ on October 04, 2017, 05:18:21 pmQuote from: silent majority on October 04, 2017, 04:27:19 pmQuote from: bobjimwilly on October 04, 2017, 09:58:46 amQuote from: the vicar on October 04, 2017, 09:41:53 amhe gets so much leeway cos of he is sorting the club from bottom upwards and because we are not a sacking club it has nothing to do with his dad, if we sacked managers as much as some on here we would be changing managers every other month, stay with the club and we will come right don't often agree with you vicar, but I also agree. We've been waiting years for somebody to grab hold of the playing side of this club and put it into some kind of shape, academy, youth and 1st team all needed it. We also don't want a reputation as a sacking club because when you do want to recruit someone decent you won't have the applicants.We're hardly going to get a reputation as a sacking club considering our recent history with managers after relegation. Understood. But if we got rid now after a promotion? Hmm, loyal to Managers who go through relegation but not promotion?
My view is that DF fits our club well. All the young players I have heard interviewed praise his personal coaching.That is a vital quality for a club trying to develop younger players rather than buy talent from other clubs at today's ridiculous prices . Disappointment at our poor early results may cause concern and nervous tension . I suggest a course on inner engineering .