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Carrilion fuel cards bouncing at filling stations, the smart employees with an eye on the news would have filled to the brim over the weekend
Quote from: Filo on January 15, 2018, 11:14:43 amCarrilion fuel cards bouncing at filling stations, the smart employees with an eye on the news would have filled to the brim over the weekendDepends. Some staff will do a lot of miles so will fill up each day e.g. mobile engineers, cleaners and probably hr this week.I will pay via cash if I need more.
Must be strange being told to keep attending work but being unsure if you’ll get paid
I have lots of words. I'll post them on time but obviously still can't.Happy Monday 😔
Despite what many in the media say, at the front line it's all about doing the job effectively, not shareholder profit (as some say to make their political points stack up).
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 15, 2018, 08:18:12 amI have lots of words. I'll post them on time but obviously still can't.Happy Monday 😔BFYP - I also have plenty to say about this situation but at the moment can’t say much.It’s a really horrible time for the affected staff because of the uncertainty despite the assurance that staff, agency support and sub contractors will be paid for all services carried out with effect from 7am this morning.There is however no guarantee for money’s owed prior to that.I sit on the other side of the table to yourself and this has been coming for quite a long time.I’ve had regular dealings with a plethora of Senior management within Carillion - many of who are great strategists but have no idea about delivery at the sharp end or operational challenges.The amount of senior managers is phenomenal - I regularly attend meetings where there are 3 or 4 directors in attendance (all of whom are on 6 figure reward packages (pay and benefits) and obscene individual and team bonuses).A huge factor in this and many other FM contracts is the deliberate low balling of tender submissions to win the work with ambitious and unrealistic expectations of the level of income from variable costs, particularly if the contract is managed to a good standard.Because of the complexity of the Carillion portfolio, it will take a litttle while before the Cabinet Office can roll out a solution across all contracts for Governemnt departments, but most staff will end up in continued employment on the same T&Cs in the short and medium term.I hope it works out well for you and would hate to deal with the uncertainty.
Cabinet meeting this morning,best idea will be t dig up Lord Hanson so he can buy Carilion for a £1 million asset strip it and walk away with £. 3 Billion.
Quote from: Sprotyrover on January 16, 2018, 11:06:13 amCabinet meeting this morning,best idea will be t dig up Lord Hanson so he can buy Carilion for a £1 million asset strip it and walk away with £. 3 Billion.Andy Bradley from SME Flora Tec was just on telly explaining how the £1 million owed to him by Carililion will cause his company out of business.
Vans were almost certainly on leases and have been reclaimed by lease company after consideration by the administrators. Not many companies own their vans - you often see the lease companies name on the van as well as the contractors. In this way they are not a company asset and as such can’t be sold off by the administrator.
Quote from: StocktonRover on January 16, 2018, 10:27:45 pmVans were almost certainly on leases and have been reclaimed by lease company after consideration by the administrators. Not many companies own their vans - you often see the lease companies name on the van as well as the contractors. In this way they are not a company asset and as such can’t be sold off by the administrator. I understand, but how can they turn up for work like the Government says if they have n't got a van?
eye-opening article here: https://medium.com/@graceblakeley/carillions-missing-millions-9090a6ee84d8how the CEO and finance director can earn > £1million in the year prior to the 1st profit warning is beyond belief!This para hits the nail on the head:"The cabal of outsourcing firms like Carillion, Serco, and Capita don’t add any value to the economy. They merely act as arbiters between a Government that lacks the desire or capacity to do proper public procurement and the suppliers that end up doing the work, extracting millions from taxpayers in the process."