Rubbish

[raggytash]

Well guys, it’s my first post in ages and deliberately so... after attending the Bristol rovers, Charlton and Shrewsbury games it’s quite clear we’re very poor.

How does df organise his teams? We are set up wrong in nearly every game, no vision, no pace and definitely no attacking motive.

Secondly, the board!! 3 years into a 5 year plan we’re struggling to stay up, attendances are above the budget, and there plan is clearly dead in the water.

This board clearly stated about the dons and rovers progressing.... rovers are static...no improvement whatsoever, the dons in a lower league than when the plan was out....

If the board arnt upto it, lets try and progress otherwise because it’s boring and it’s there for all to see absolutely no ambition, the performances are shite and boring...

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!

[silent majority]

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

[chrisd_123]

Well guys, it’s my first post in ages and deliberately so... after attending the Bristol rovers, Charlton and Shrewsbury games it’s quite clear we’re very poor.

How does df organise his teams? We are set up wrong in nearly every game, no vision, no pace and definitely no attacking motive.

Secondly, the board!! 3 years into a 5 year plan we’re struggling to stay up, attendances are above the budget, and there plan is clearly dead in the water.

This board clearly stated about the dons and rovers progressing.... rovers are static...no improvement whatsoever, the dons in a lower league than when the plan was out....

If the board arnt upto it, lets try and progress otherwise because it’s boring and it’s there for all to see absolutely no ambition, the performances are shite and boring...

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!

I don't understand where this "Struggling to stay up" is coming from.

I don't agree with it but I do understand the argument about progression but "Struggling to stay up"?. We've never once been in the bottom 4 this season and are 6 points above the drop. I'm not saying this definitely won't change but bloody hell, struggling to stay up is a bit much.

Is this the same board who have just paid a relatively large amount to sign Ben Whiteman and also allowed the extra budget to bring in the defenders we desperately needed? We're never going to have budgets to match Portsmouth etc so I don't get what people are truly expecting?

We haven't been great recently granted but this post is very kneejerk.

[tommy toes]

It's the 'large amount' to sign the likes of Ben Whiteman that worries me. I'm not sure about Fergie's judgement of players ability or where to play them.
Recent performances have been terrible and we will be in a relegation fight unless things change.

[Danmckay456]

Hopefully next season we address the right hand side with a new full back and quick winger a high priority.

A centre back in who can strike a partnership up with another one who we already have , Andrews to fill the left back void to free up tommy Rowe who without doubt can win you games on his own when being given freedom.

We need to break the bank for a striker we just can’t kill teams off and one who will shoot from anywhere

[Chris Black come back]

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

[raggytash]

I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.

[DonnyOsmond]

I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.

Bring back Chaplow!

[DonnyOsmond]

Its hilarious that we've got 3 years left of this plan and apparently the boards failing. The plan wasn't to get promoted straight away, we build a squad long term, other wise we'll go up and come straight back down. Football has turned so short term.

[donnievic]

I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.

Beestin know where near ready????he has probably been our best player over the last 3 month

[Glyn_Wigley]

I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.

Beestin know where near ready????he has probably been our best player over the last 3 month

But he's seen three matches so knows it all.

[steve@dcfd]

It's the 'large amount' to sign the likes of Ben Whiteman that worries me. I'm not sure about Fergie's judgement of players ability or where to play them.
Recent performances have been terrible and we will be in a relegation fight unless things change.

It may be considered a large amount by some yet in the terms of League 1 clubs that want promotion the amount is normal. We may have spend that amount on two or three more players if we want to progress in this league. We may have to increase our spending on the academy if we want to consistently bring players through instead of spending on other players.

[the vicar]

It was a plan to be established in the championship for both teams not just be there, but I think the Dons will be in the championship after this season weather they stay there is another thing but there we are

[bobjimwilly]

Beestin is going to be a great player, and we'll be lucky to keep him in the future I think

[dickos1]

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

[Cantley Rover]

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

I reckon one win in 9 is very consistent too.

[dickos1]

Exactly a side drawing 7 of their last 8 games or whatever it is cant be called inconsistent

[since-1969]

If the board arnt upto. it,

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!

Clearly a dig at the board ?

[the vicar]

People can dig at who they want if that is what they believe.  They are doing ok but they are not as heavenly as some on here think they are but they are doing ok nothing outstanding though

[steve@dcfd]

Beestin is going to be a great player, and we'll be lucky to keep him in the future I think

Sorry don’t know as yet how you can believe he is going to be great. As a lot to prove yet he must continue to progress.

[Chris Black come back]

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have yet to be in the top 8. Therefore we are

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have not been in the top 8. We are therefore struggling to live up to this standard.

[steve@dcfd]

Where as this top 8 budget come from?
Checking the figures of two years ago we had a budget around mid table.
As it improved this time round?
Looking at the budget for league 1 2016/2017 teams that got promoted had over twice the 4m budget we had, in fact Sheff United had a 11m budget.

[dickos1]

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have yet to be in the top 8. Therefore we are

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have not been in the top 8. We are therefore struggling to live up to this standard.

Top 8 budget?

Even if we did have this, you think the budget is the only bearing on a league position?
Look at bury, look at Shrewsbury
That tells you everything.

[POD]

It was a plan to be established in the championship for both teams not just be there, but I think the Dons will be in the championship after this season weather they stay there is another thing but there we are

It would be nice to think that we could be an established Championship team, but realistically a club like Rovers with modest support and little potential beyond that will be a decent League One team at best, with occasional flirtations at the Championship. 
To be an established Championship side, Rovers would need crowds to be at ground capacity every match or alternatively a rich benefactor (like Bournemouth). 
Personally, as long as we are competing and I am being entertained each time I go to the match, I am not really bothered which league we are playing in. 

[Chris Black come back]

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have yet to be in the top 8. Therefore we are

Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have not been in the top 8. We are therefore struggling to live up to this standard.

Top 8 budget?

Even if we did have this, you think the budget is the only bearing on a league position?
Look at bury, look at Shrewsbury
That tells you everything.

If you are of the opinion that the clubs with the largest budgets do not tend to dominate the leagues in which they play, then keep chugging on the bong brother. It is consistently the major determinant of success.

[dickos1]

Didn't suggest that did I? Your suggesting it's the only reason teams do well and because we have a top 8 budget then automatically that's where we should be

Which is nonsense

[Chris Black come back]

Good luck with your theory that budget has no impact on outcome. There used to be guy outside Arndale with sandwich board supporting theory of Flat Earth. Suspect he has probably passed away but both his sandwich board and standing spot are free, so maybe that could be of help?

[dickos1]

You're good at always changing your arguement I'll give you that.
Nowhere did I say it has no impact chap

[silent majority]

It was a plan to be established in the championship for both teams not just be there, but I think the Dons will be in the championship after this season weather they stay there is another thing but there we are

It would be nice to think that we could be an established Championship team, but realistically a club like Rovers with modest support and little potential beyond that will be a decent League One team at best, with occasional flirtations at the Championship. 
To be an established Championship side, Rovers would need crowds to be at ground capacity every match or alternatively a rich benefactor (like Bournemouth). 
Personally, as long as we are competing and I am being entertained each time I go to the match, I am not really bothered which league we are playing in. 

Not necessarily. The solidarity payments and TV income is disproportionate when you're in the Championship. That goes quite along way to offsetting the lack of income from other sources.

But like you, so long as I have a team to support it doesn't always matter what division we're in, but it's always a better afternoon if the stadium is fullish and the performances are OK.

[raggytash]

I’m not having a go, I’m saying everything is done on the cheap, we need established quality which isn’t cheap but without a bit of investment we’re going to be watching crap till god knows when.

Why on earth play Rowe at left back is a joke? I think it’s fair to say we’re 4 or 5 good players short.