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Quote from: dickos1 on February 24, 2018, 08:09:21 pmNot really no. But I'm sure since the Oldham game in mid December today was the first time we'd conceded any late goals. So we had obviously sorted it as we'd conceded 8 or 9 before that! So your not counting the goal Bristol Rovers scored in the 85th minute at the end of January then?
Not really no. But I'm sure since the Oldham game in mid December today was the first time we'd conceded any late goals. So we had obviously sorted it as we'd conceded 8 or 9 before that!
Bristol Rovers 85min and Portsmouth 81min.Balanced against that though were our goals in 90min v Scunthorpe, Peterborough and Charlton.
You joined in a conversation and gave examples that were irrelevant then
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on February 24, 2018, 05:50:57 pmOver Christmas we beat Bristol Rovers, Northampton and Rochdale.We then drew against Peterborough, Plymouth, Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe. All of whom were either in-form or challenging for promotion/play-offs.We then lost our last defender against Bristol Rovers and lost.We then draw against two more decent sides in Charlton and Portsmouth.The Walsall shambles, which in these games I've mentioned is probably easily our worst performance.Easily beat Fleetwood.Narrowly lose to in-form Rotherham in the 103rd minute.So we're drawing against decent teams, beating the worst teams, had bad luck against Bristol Rovers at home and one terrible result against Walsall and people want him gone. The short termism is hilarious. If we win like 7 out of 10 would people be calling for a knighthood and freedom of the town?Going from recent form of beating most of teams below us, drawing against better teams, with the odd defeat here and there.Bury (H)Southend (A)Bradford (H)Blackburn (H)Blackpool (A) - Blackpool at Easter again wtf?Wimbledon (H)Gillingham (A)MK Dons (A)Oxford (H)Oldham (A)Wigan (H)We should manage around 15 points IMO.
Over Christmas we beat Bristol Rovers, Northampton and Rochdale.We then drew against Peterborough, Plymouth, Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe. All of whom were either in-form or challenging for promotion/play-offs.We then lost our last defender against Bristol Rovers and lost.We then draw against two more decent sides in Charlton and Portsmouth.The Walsall shambles, which in these games I've mentioned is probably easily our worst performance.Easily beat Fleetwood.Narrowly lose to in-form Rotherham in the 103rd minute.So we're drawing against decent teams, beating the worst teams, had bad luck against Bristol Rovers at home and one terrible result against Walsall and people want him gone. The short termism is hilarious. If we win like 7 out of 10 would people be calling for a knighthood and freedom of the town?
With the exception of Blackburn, Wigan & probably Gillingham none of those fixtures should overly worry us. We’ll get at least 12, maybe 16 from those games.
Bury, Bradford, mk dons, Oldham, oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool, We need to be getting at least ten points from these
Quote from: andysly on February 24, 2018, 11:54:08 pmWith the exception of Blackburn, Wigan & probably Gillingham none of those fixtures should overly worry us. We’ll get at least 12, maybe 16 from those games.I wonder what the thoughts will be if we fail to get say, 10 or 12 points from those seven games.
right...for everyone who thinks Ferguson is a shite manager, and Rovers are having a poor season, where exactly do you really think in your heart of hearts think we should be ?we've existed, barely, in the second tier of english football for six seasons over the last sixty (count 'em - sixty) years; on the back of a multi-millionaire benefactor and his collusion with other well-monied individuals, who somehow enabled us to punch way above our weight for a short time before falling back to where we historically, and realistically, should belook at the championship - there are probably two clubs that we can sensibly look at and think "we should be as good as them" (Brentford and Burton) - they are enjoying their outlier seasons in the sun, same as we did - replace them with blackburn and wigan, and there's arguably no-one in the higher level that we "should" replace based on any sensible criterioneven in league one, there are ten clubs or thereabouts who have a more rational claim to compete at a higher level - we're about where we should be, bobbing about in mid-table, hoping for the planets to align and a team of capable, well-adjusted players to coalesce more by luck than judgement; youth development seems to be at best treading water with regard to the number of genuine first team impact players who come through, we have no benefactor - it would take an absolute genius manager to get a play-off push out of the current squad, and genius managers - strangely enough - are few and far betweenthe angst on here at the perceived lack of upward momentum staggers me - but maybe i'm missing something - tell me why we should be doing better, how it should happen and for what quantifiable reasons other than blind faith and hope; to constantly criticise for reality not coming up to scratch compared to nothing more than pipe-dreams seems asinine, deluded almost - and don't get me started on moaning about the quality of performance in games where points are forthcoming...maybe it's the demographic on here - more folk who started watching in the first decade of this century where promotions and visits to elland road, bramall lane, st andrews and the like were on the menu season after season rather than colchester, accrington and barnet - is it only miserable old gits who have any genuine sense of perspective on things ?
Quote from: drfchound on February 25, 2018, 05:00:27 pmQuote from: andysly on February 24, 2018, 11:54:08 pmWith the exception of Blackburn, Wigan & probably Gillingham none of those fixtures should overly worry us. We’ll get at least 12, maybe 16 from those games.I wonder what the thoughts will be if we fail to get say, 10 or 12 points from those seven games. 8 games.We need 8 points from 12 games so if we manage to get 10 from 8 games I would think everyone would be happy. As we'd be safe with another 4 games to go
I would add as well for broad context, that after our last promotion upwards to the third tier (season 04/05) we finished 10th with 66 points (we are currently 24 points behind that total, at 42 points).
There is nothing wrong with having hopes and ambitions, is there?
Quote from: dickos1 on February 24, 2018, 09:54:57 pmBury, Bradford, mk dons, Oldham, oxford, Wimbledon, Blackpool, We need to be getting at least ten points from theseQuote from: dickos1 on February 25, 2018, 08:27:15 pmQuote from: drfchound on February 25, 2018, 05:00:27 pmQuote from: andysly on February 24, 2018, 11:54:08 pmWith the exception of Blackburn, Wigan & probably Gillingham none of those fixtures should overly worry us. We’ll get at least 12, maybe 16 from those games.I wonder what the thoughts will be if we fail to get say, 10 or 12 points from those seven games. 8 games.We need 8 points from 12 games so if we manage to get 10 from 8 games I would think everyone would be happy. As we'd be safe with another 4 games to go I could have sworn I saw someone list seven games earlier and suggest we needed ten points from them.Maybe not.