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That is one reason why I'm falling out of love with football.He should be banned for a season with no pay; and the ref should go to spec savers.
I can't blame the lad for doing it. It's 1-1, 85th minute, you're in a dangerous position inside the area in a big match and you try something out of the ordinary to gain your team an advantage? He's got away with it (although he'll probably be on the naughty list of every referee in the country now and it'll be much tougher for him to win a penalty in the future as every referee will be wary) and he's done his job as his team have won the match.The referee is the one at fault as he's made the decision to give it. If the lad doesn't get away with it, and the ref does his job policy, the lad gets a yellow card.It's annoying if you're on the wrong end of it but that's life.
It's not comparable.The player's job is to win the game for his team. The ref's job is to make the correct decisions.Players won't make it easy for referees by behaving themselves (they haven't for years) so they need to use whatever resources available to them to reach the correct decision, or when they don't, have a body that takes appropriate retrospective action.I can think of two incidents involving Luis Suarez in big games where he's been instinctive, not morally great, and he and his team have benefitted. I'll never moan about a player bending the rules, using his initiative or instincts, to manufacture something in a game. I'll moan about referees not doing their job properly, or whichever body, not supporting them properly all day long.
It's nothing to do with trolls or any of that crap - it's down to referees to get the decisions correct.If they can't do it, maybe they shouldn't be in the job?There's lots of things that some people will class as cheating that go on at games all the time. Example: some clubs instruct ball boys to slow or quicken the game, depending on the score, and get the YTs to do it. It happens all over.Is that 'cheating' or just a benefit of being at home?
I can't blame the lad for doing it. The referee is the one at fault as he's made the decision to give it. It's annoying if you're on the wrong end of it but that's life.
.... and another great reason for having a timed 30 minutes each half. Time keeping is one less job for the Ref and someone stops and starts the Game clock every time play stops and each time it starts againNo fake injuries / no sending Subs to furthest point before calling them off / Subs dont have to clap their fans shake the Refs hand and walk as slowly as they can / elaborate goal celebrations with players forming pyramids or pretending to Row a boat / keepers on 3k a week wont need to let balls passed to them by ball boys go under their feet or through their hands / and then move the ball three times and kick the postsBring it on because I for one CANT WAIT for an end to all the cheating / gamesmanship especially of the kind in the OP. As Idler says above the Game will be dead within 10 years if the cheating continues unchecked. There is no excuse - we all might as well take up watching Poker there are that many bluffers in the game now. It is supposed to be a game of skill (the beautiful game) NOT a murder mystery weekend
Quote from: Rigoglioso on March 20, 2018, 10:30:58 pmI can't blame the lad for doing it. The referee is the one at fault as he's made the decision to give it. It's annoying if you're on the wrong end of it but that's life.So, to summarise your standpoint on such matters:The perpetrator of the wrong-doing (i.e. the cheat) isn't to blame. The blame lies with those whose job it is to enforce the rules.....What a sad blueprint for the sport, if everyone was to espouse your values.
Quote from: Donnywolf on March 21, 2018, 09:14:51 am.... and another great reason for having a timed 30 minutes each half. Time keeping is one less job for the Ref and someone stops and starts the Game clock every time play stops and each time it starts againNo fake injuries / no sending Subs to furthest point before calling them off / Subs dont have to clap their fans shake the Refs hand and walk as slowly as they can / elaborate goal celebrations with players forming pyramids or pretending to Row a boat / keepers on 3k a week wont need to let balls passed to them by ball boys go under their feet or through their hands / and then move the ball three times and kick the postsBring it on because I for one CANT WAIT for an end to all the cheating / gamesmanship especially of the kind in the OP. As Idler says above the Game will be dead within 10 years if the cheating continues unchecked. There is no excuse - we all might as well take up watching Poker there are that many bluffers in the game now. It is supposed to be a game of skill (the beautiful game) NOT a murder mystery weekendI agree on every point you make apart from the limit of 30 mins per half. I don’t get why the fans who pay for 45 mins should get less
I'll never moan about a player bending the rules, using his initiative or instincts, to manufacture something in a game.
There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour including if a player:attempts to deceive the referee e.g. by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation)
I'd still point the finger firmly at the referee though if he can't do his job properly and make the correct decision during a game.
Just because the average game time we're getting is less than 60kins per game doesn't make it right. We are being short changed and it`s been a trend for many years now. There's probably more free kicks in games now and it generally takes an eternity to take the kicks as teams get organised. It's the same with some throw in, especially for those teams with long throw specialists.The cheats prospering along with too many stoppages means the football is being sucked out of the game.
Quote from: IDM on March 23, 2018, 10:18:23 amWith the exception of VAR, the officials can only give what they see.. if players are blocking their line of sight, or if they glance the other way just at the wrong time, things will get missed.It is the players responsibility not to cheat!Not every player will be honest though.
With the exception of VAR, the officials can only give what they see.. if players are blocking their line of sight, or if they glance the other way just at the wrong time, things will get missed.It is the players responsibility not to cheat!