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Quote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 09:54:26 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on June 26, 2018, 09:06:55 pmJust pleased we have got a manager (if true) who meets all the criteria set. Ah well good luck all the same. What WAS the criteria !! Because we are obviously not fussed who we give the job too. We have decent group of players and back room staff . This over rated and underachieving nobody looks like taking the job with the board supposedly having carried out their due diligence . Same old same old . It was on the Rovers website about 3 week ago. Go find it.
Quote from: Lesonthewest on June 26, 2018, 09:06:55 pmJust pleased we have got a manager (if true) who meets all the criteria set. Ah well good luck all the same. What WAS the criteria !! Because we are obviously not fussed who we give the job too. We have decent group of players and back room staff . This over rated and underachieving nobody looks like taking the job with the board supposedly having carried out their due diligence . Same old same old .
Just pleased we have got a manager (if true) who meets all the criteria set. Ah well good luck all the same.
Quote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 09:05:42 pmWhat are the board playing at , surly this t**t could have been announced sooner if they are adamant he’s the man , he has NO track record to shout about. I want success like anybody else , I hope I’m wrong , but I can’t see him lasting a season . But sincerely hope I’m wrong. WTF***Managers who had no track record to speak of before we took them on. Peter DohertyLawrie McMenemyBilly BremnerDave PenneyManagers who had lots of track record before we took them on. Dave MackayDarren Ferguson.
What are the board playing at , surly this t**t could have been announced sooner if they are adamant he’s the man , he has NO track record to shout about. I want success like anybody else , I hope I’m wrong , but I can’t see him lasting a season . But sincerely hope I’m wrong. WTF***
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 26, 2018, 09:57:08 pmQuote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 09:54:26 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on June 26, 2018, 09:06:55 pmJust pleased we have got a manager (if true) who meets all the criteria set. Ah well good luck all the same. What WAS the criteria !! Because we are obviously not fussed who we give the job too. We have decent group of players and back room staff . This over rated and underachieving nobody looks like taking the job with the board supposedly having carried out their due diligence . Same old same old . It was on the Rovers website about 3 week ago. Go find it.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 26, 2018, 09:37:48 pmQuote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 09:05:42 pmWhat are the board playing at , surly this t**t could have been announced sooner if they are adamant he’s the man , he has NO track record to shout about. I want success like anybody else , I hope I’m wrong , but I can’t see him lasting a season . But sincerely hope I’m wrong. WTF***Managers who had no track record to speak of before we took them on. Peter DohertyLawrie McMenemyBilly BremnerDave PenneyManagers who had lots of track record before we took them on. Dave MackayDarren Ferguson. Peter Doherty and Billy Bremner were very big names in football prior to their appointments. Their contacts were invaluable, and their roles of player-manager meant the club was getting player quality of a rare level.Lawrie McMenemy had a very successful spell as manager of Bishop Auckland, transforming the club in fact.Dave Penney was given a relatively massive budget to get Rovers out of the Conference.ALL the above became Rovers manager when in the bottom tier of the football league, other than Penney who became manager in the Conference.Dave Mackay and Darren Ferguson became managers when Rovers were in League 1.
I don't understand where this myth comes from that Grant McCann failed at Peterborough.They had 47 points from 33 games at the time of his departure and were six points off the play-offs with two games in hand. They also had a better GD. In a nutshell, they weren't in pole position but they were certainly in contention, even though they hadn't won in half a dozen games.Peterborough's board just pressed the panic button and got rid of him in favour of a more experienced manager who still didn't deliver the play-offs.McCann's win percentage was bang on 40% over 105 games. Big budget or not, you still have to deliver results and there won't be many managers out there who've achieved that sort of win ratio in their first managerial job in the Football League.Think folk should give him a chance tbh.
Quote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 10:18:06 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 26, 2018, 09:57:08 pmQuote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 09:54:26 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on June 26, 2018, 09:06:55 pmJust pleased we have got a manager (if true) who meets all the criteria set. Ah well good luck all the same. What WAS the criteria !! Because we are obviously not fussed who we give the job too. We have decent group of players and back room staff . This over rated and underachieving nobody looks like taking the job with the board supposedly having carried out their due diligence . Same old same old . It was on the Rovers website about 3 week ago. Go find it.A working knowledge of the EFL or its equivalent - A proven track record of securing results on the field - Ability to develop a first team that can play an attractive style of football - The ability to develop players and staff - Success in managing a playing budget - Excellent contacts within the football community - Proven track record of developing a youth structure and pathway - A proven leader - A pleasing and willing personality - A commitment to the vision and values of Club Doncaster
Quote from: eastender on June 26, 2018, 10:27:19 pmQuote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 10:18:06 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 26, 2018, 09:57:08 pmQuote from: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 09:54:26 pmQuote from: Lesonthewest on June 26, 2018, 09:06:55 pmJust pleased we have got a manager (if true) who meets all the criteria set. Ah well good luck all the same. What WAS the criteria !! Because we are obviously not fussed who we give the job too. We have decent group of players and back room staff . This over rated and underachieving nobody looks like taking the job with the board supposedly having carried out their due diligence . Same old same old . It was on the Rovers website about 3 week ago. Go find it.A working knowledge of the EFL or its equivalent - A proven track record of securing results on the field - Ability to develop a first team that can play an attractive style of football - The ability to develop players and staff - Success in managing a playing budget - Excellent contacts within the football community - Proven track record of developing a youth structure and pathway - A proven leader - A pleasing and willing personality - A commitment to the vision and values of Club Doncaster. If any of the above has been proven to useful then surely McCann should not have got through the door . We are finally seeing what a cut price alternative to a sensible selection looks like , I honestly thought we had seen enough of irrational appointments when Dickov was sacked, but in Grant McCann we have the next generation of pointless ill conceived choices.
I can't hide my feeling that if it is McCann I'll be really disappointed. I thought Stuart McCall would be by far and away a better candidate than him based on experience, track record, and the write-ups we've seen from various sources at their former clubs, so more than anything I'll be disappointed to miss out on him when we seemingly had a good chance of appointing him.I was looking forward to a new era post-Ferguson, and a change in the way the team is managed and plays football. McCann seems to me like more of a continuity appointment from what I've read - playing similar football, favouring similar players, and suffering the same pitfalls.However, and this is the most important point, if he is appointed I'll support him, hope that he does well, and make judgements based on what he does in the job rather than putting myself in one or the other polarised "camps" and being at loggerheads on here all the time. There will always be people who just whinge at everything, and there will always be people who seemingly applaud every move a DRFC manager makes. Hopefully most people can find a way to be on the sliding scale in between - supportive of the manager but realistic about their performance.
BB, it's a good job some of our supporters didn't pick the Rotherham, and the Shrewsbury managers, or the lad who got Scunthorpe in the playoffs. Had any of those managed before, the Rotherham and Scunthorpe managers were on the backroom staff, and the Cardiff manager started off as a chiropodist I think and a part time manager at Scarborough. For gods sake give whoever gets the job a chance.
Dickov left Oldham 1 point above the relegation zone, with a 30% win ratio, and scores of Oldham fans telling us it was a shit appointment.McCann left Peterborough 10th, 6 points off the playoffs with two in hand, a 40% win ratio and generally good comments from the Peterborough fans.It seems two completely different situations.
Quote from: Copps is Magic on June 27, 2018, 07:10:54 amDickov left Oldham 1 point above the relegation zone, with a 30% win ratio, and scores of Oldham fans telling us it was a shit appointment.McCann left Peterborough 10th, 6 points off the playoffs with two in hand, a 40% win ratio and generally good comments from the Peterborough fans.It seems two completely different situations. He was sacked after 7 looses on the bounce and having thrown away a promotion chance .