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Didn't they have a recording Steve?
Quote from: SydneyRover on June 24, 2019, 11:02:19 pmDidn't they have a recording Steve?If they had, then surely the Police must have listened to it, and would have found nothing dark or dangerous, or why did they conclude that nothing was wrong?
Quote from: scawsby steve on June 24, 2019, 11:24:09 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on June 24, 2019, 11:02:19 pmDidn't they have a recording Steve?If they had, then surely the Police must have listened to it, and would have found nothing dark or dangerous, or why did they conclude that nothing was wrong?Because...do I REALLY need to write this? Apparently I do...Because a future PM can have character defects which are not illegal, but which the electorate might still want ot take into account when considering whether they want him to lead the country.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 25, 2019, 12:08:43 amQuote from: scawsby steve on June 24, 2019, 11:24:09 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on June 24, 2019, 11:02:19 pmDidn't they have a recording Steve?If they had, then surely the Police must have listened to it, and would have found nothing dark or dangerous, or why did they conclude that nothing was wrong?Because...do I REALLY need to write this? Apparently I do...Because a future PM can have character defects which are not illegal, but which the electorate might still want ot take into account when considering whether they want him to lead the country.I don't doubt for one minute the character defects of Johnson; I just doubt the motives of the neighbours when they say they were concerened for the welfare of the woman. I think there was something more ulterior going on.
Billy you are being very selective here with the above comment..i don't have a problem with the fact he banged on the door to check everything was fine or that he called the Police to check. However lets be honest,these were a couple who were openly aggressive to them in public prior to this,Is giving them the middle finger everytime she saw them is that acceptable behaviour to you???it's no coincidence that she deleted all the numerous vile tweets soon after either.. Then of course there's the fact that he recorded it and sent it to the Guardian..A paper I might add that was at the forefront of crying foul during the phone tapping scandals championing the cause of people's privacy.. I don't accept your argument that the people need to know what she said..We've all had blazing rows with people were things were said in the heat of the moment most of which we don't mean..It wasn't long ago that the mail did a piece on Corbyn,he was trashed by people who used to work with him with various quotes on his behaviour towards others but that was just right wing scaremongering... At the end of the day once again people will base their arguments and opinions on which way their political leanings lie..
Glyn they didn't record it "IN THEIR OWN HOME" did they??? he recorded it pressed up against his Front door.. I take it while your heart bleeds for the terrible injustice they have suffered at hearing a ten minute argument, alternatively you obviously feel it's perfectly acceptable that previous to that whilst leaving their home they should have to put up with the abuse she has given them by proudly boasting of giving them the middle finger everytime she see's them...Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...
Quote from: wing commander on June 25, 2019, 11:38:55 am Glyn they didn't record it "IN THEIR OWN HOME" did they??? he recorded it pressed up against his Front door.. I take it while your heart bleeds for the terrible injustice they have suffered at hearing a ten minute argument, alternatively you obviously feel it's perfectly acceptable that previous to that whilst leaving their home they should have to put up with the abuse she has given them by proudly boasting of giving them the middle finger everytime she see's them...Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...They live in the same building, don't they? They must have been able to hear it to know that there was a row going on!My heart bleeds for anyone subjected to having to listen to neighbours arguing loudly, without warning and carrying on indefinitely as it's something I once had to suffer myself for several months. It shreds your nerves, badly. I even had to call the police myself when it once spilled out onto the pavement right outside my window and one was threatening the other with a knife.Nowhere have I said that any abuse is acceptable, so you can take your crap extrapolation based solely on your idea of 'obviously' and shove your accusation of hypocrisy back in the orifice it came from.
BST and Glyn WigleyThis is all about belief and perspective and where you're coming from. You're both Guardian reading lefties who are so blinkered that you refuse to acknowledge that there are always two sides to an argument.Me? I'm a non- newspaper reader who voted Brexit, with no affiliation to any political party, and no trust in any of the politicians in Westminster.This is probably why I'm not naive enough to believe that those two were genuinely concerned about their neighbour's welfare.
The other side of the argument is it's none of your business.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on June 25, 2019, 04:24:24 pmThe other side of the argument is it's none of your business.When it goes outside of their own four walls and public money is spent on the police attending, it becomes a public matter whether you believe it should or not.
That's the thing NNK.He's not even any f**king good at lying. But the idiots who support him do not care. They are dumbly and numbly allowing him to normalise the destruction of objective truth in politics.
It wasn't long ago that the mail did a piece on Corbyn,he was trashed by people who used to work with him with various quotes on his behaviour towards others but that was just right wing scaremongering... At the end of the day once again people will base their arguments and opinions on which way their political leanings lie..
Quote from: scawsby steve on June 25, 2019, 04:05:40 pmBST and Glyn WigleyThis is all about belief and perspective and where you're coming from. You're both Guardian reading lefties who are so blinkered that you refuse to acknowledge that there are always two sides to an argument.Me? I'm a non- newspaper reader who voted Brexit, with no affiliation to any political party, and no trust in any of the politicians in Westminster.This is probably why I'm not naive enough to believe that those two were genuinely concerned about their neighbour's welfare.There might be two sides to an argument Steve - but there is always only one set of facts. How you might want to interpret those facts might differ - but the facts are still the facts.A man who would be PM had an argument with his girlfriend that was so loud the neighbours were able to hear it and tape it. They were so concerned about what they heard that the police were called. The police had no problem with the taping (or anyone else taping a domestic violence incident) as if this were deemed a serious incident it would be useful as evidence. Thankfully it wasn't.If he is prepared to act like that during a campaign to be PM - what else is he prepared to do and say? What other situations might he put himself in? Who else might be taping him?Do you believe his explanations about the incident? Do you believe his explanations about the mysterious photo? If you do, please explain why, if you don't why do you believe he will sort out Brexit when he is unable to say what his plan is?You can have your belief and I can have mine and I can say with certainty one of us is going to be badly wrong. I haven't yet seen or read anything to convince me it will be me.