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drfchound

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #60 on July 05, 2019, 09:30:51 pm by drfchound »
McCan was an unproven manger when he was appointed. Flitcroft has managed over 300 games.

Baldwin has started that a number of high quality candidates had applied this time. Idd say a large number of people would argue with good reason that Flitcroft is not in the high quality Category






Well, it might be that the so called high calibre  candidates won’t interview well or may not share the same vision as the board.
Flitcroft might just do so.
For the record, I am not a fan of Flitcroft and would be keen on him coming to us either.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2019, 09:42:59 pm by drfchound »



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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #61 on July 05, 2019, 09:33:34 pm by Retdon1 »
McCan was an unproven manger when he was appointed. Flitcroft has managed over 300 games.

Baldwin has started that a number of high quality candidates had applied this time. Idd say a large number of people would argue with good reason that Flitcroft is not in the high quality Category






Well, it might be that the so called high calibration candidates won’t interview well or may not share the same vision as the board.
Flitcroft might just do so.
For the record, I am not a fan of Flitcroft and would be keen on him coming to us either.

Hopefully and I’m sure it will, that the board don’t solely base their decision on how each candidate interview... not everyone is good at interviews. I’m guessing that’s why Baldwin has been busy doing background checks all week.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #62 on July 05, 2019, 09:37:15 pm by Jonathan »
Last time out the betting was suspended with Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink massively odds on. Gary Caldwell moved into a similar position as did Stuart McCall before we appointed McCann.

I think it confirms that Flitcroft is in the running and nothing more yet.

He wouldn’t be my choice but his record really isn’t as bad as some make out. Im still hoping for Darren Moore, I think.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #63 on July 05, 2019, 10:23:25 pm by Alan Southstand »
If you had a chat with my Mansfield supporting friends, Jon, you may want to take a different view on Flitcroft.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #64 on July 05, 2019, 10:25:09 pm by Jonathan »
If you had a chat with my Mansfield supporting friends, Jon, you may want to take a different view on Flitcroft.

For better or for worse? Because he wouldn’t be my choice.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #65 on July 05, 2019, 10:25:43 pm by 5minstogo »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #66 on July 05, 2019, 10:36:59 pm by Dare to dream! »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #67 on July 05, 2019, 10:45:33 pm by 5minstogo »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.

"Apparently"

no eyed deer

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #68 on July 05, 2019, 11:46:46 pm by no eyed deer »
A poll needed to see who actually wants  this guy!!!
« Last Edit: July 05, 2019, 11:52:53 pm by no eyed deer »

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #69 on July 06, 2019, 05:11:18 am by Alan Southstand »
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For better or for worse? Because he wouldn’t be my choice.

For worse!

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #70 on July 06, 2019, 09:45:06 am by silent majority »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.

Yes, he was very close.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #71 on July 06, 2019, 10:19:53 am by Retdon1 »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.

Yes, he was very close.

Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #72 on July 06, 2019, 10:43:52 am by selby »
   The difference is between the board doing the selection of the manager and ourselves, who tend to have preconceived ideas of who we would like, is they have to enter the interview with an open mind, and then decide who they think will be the best candidate for the job.
  All the candidate's  are football people, may have failed at other clubs, maybe through no fault of their own, but know the game, and are all used to being in the position of being there to be shot at by supporters like us.
  To be successful at Doncaster Rovers they are going to have to work within certain parameters financially, but  will be given time to put their ideas into practice, and in football will not work for better employers.
   Both our last two managers have left themselves, and have not been sacked, Fergie giving the board every reason to do so at one point.
  So they are coming to a good club, not the biggest, but well run and building slowly to a better future both on and off the field of play, no mean feet when taken into context with teams like Bolton, Birmingham etc.
  My main hope is that the manager buys into  what and who we are, does not come in guns blazing, and apart from a No 2 leaves the great back up staff to get on with their jobs, evolution not revolution, and concentrates on the playing side whoever he is.
   
   

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #73 on July 06, 2019, 11:53:55 am by silent majority »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.

Yes, he was very close.

Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job

To suggest that it's all about the interview would be grossly unfair on the board, and certainly on Gavin whose put a lot of effort into making sure the short list has the right candidates on it. The amount of background checks, due diligence and personal recommendation that has gone into the process cannot be underestimated.

I've mentioned this process before on other posts, it's very detailed and thorough.


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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #74 on July 06, 2019, 12:38:09 pm by Retdon1 »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.

Yes, he was very close.

Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job

To suggest that it's all about the interview would be grossly unfair on the board, and certainly on Gavin whose put a lot of effort into making sure the short list has the right candidates on it. The amount of background checks, due diligence and personal recommendation that has gone into the process cannot be underestimated.

I've mentioned this process before on other posts, it's very detailed and thorough.



If that’s the case, how on earth did Caudwell make the short list last time

selby

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #75 on July 06, 2019, 01:17:34 pm by selby »
  Because he met the required criteria set out, then at the interview stage the board of directors and others making the decision thought there was a better candidate.
   Much to your relief no doubt.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #76 on July 06, 2019, 01:27:52 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.

Apparently he interviewed well and was close to getting the job.

Yes, he was very close.

Let’s hope the board have learned not to be fooled by someone simply just interviewing well. We would be in league 2 now if caudwell got the job

To suggest that it's all about the interview would be grossly unfair on the board, and certainly on Gavin whose put a lot of effort into making sure the short list has the right candidates on it. The amount of background checks, due diligence and personal recommendation that has gone into the process cannot be underestimated.

I've mentioned this process before on other posts, it's very detailed and thorough.



If that’s the case, how on earth did Caudwell make the short list last time

Who is Caudwell?

Alan Southstand

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #77 on July 06, 2019, 01:31:30 pm by Alan Southstand »
Minie?

Dare to dream!

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #78 on July 06, 2019, 06:15:46 pm by Dare to dream! »
Appleton odds dropping nicely.

My guess the shortlist is:

Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane

Pretty solid.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2019, 06:34:10 pm by Dare to dream! »

DonnyOsmond

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #79 on July 06, 2019, 06:53:00 pm by DonnyOsmond »
John Eustace popped up out of nowhere.

Jonathan

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #80 on July 06, 2019, 06:55:00 pm by Jonathan »
Appleton odds dropping nicely.

My guess the shortlist is:

Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane

Pretty solid.

I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.

I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.

Jonathan

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« Reply #81 on July 06, 2019, 07:00:44 pm by Jonathan »
John Eustace popped up out of nowhere.

Well respected coach I think.

Wild Rover

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #82 on July 06, 2019, 07:07:53 pm by Wild Rover »
QPR assistant Manager. Former Manager Kiddie Harriers.

Dare to dream!

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« Reply #83 on July 06, 2019, 07:12:44 pm by Dare to dream! »
Appleton odds dropping nicely.

My guess the shortlist is:

Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane

Pretty solid.

I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.

I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.

I said on another thread it’s a testament to the club.

I included Keane because someone told me he had applied a while ago through after getting suggested from Mcsheffrey. I dismissed it at first but then he has been in la manga with the squad this week which adds weight to that story.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #84 on July 06, 2019, 07:15:48 pm by since-1969 »
 
Caldwell was a red herring thrown in by the club.
  :thumbdown: If it’s a red herring why call it a Caldwell and why throw it out was it off ?
« Last Edit: July 06, 2019, 07:19:38 pm by since-1969 »

DonnyOsmond

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #85 on July 06, 2019, 07:16:13 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Appleton odds dropping nicely.

My guess the shortlist is:

Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane

Pretty solid.

I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.

I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.

I said on another thread it’s a testament to the club.

I included Keane because someone told me he had applied a while ago through after getting suggested from Mcsheffrey. I dismissed it at first but then he has been in la manga with the squad this week which adds weight to that story.

McSheffrey's a youth coach for the club. That'll explain why he's on La Manga.

Retdon1

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #86 on July 06, 2019, 07:19:24 pm by Retdon1 »
Appleton odds dropping nicely.

My guess the shortlist is:

Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane

Pretty solid.

I’d be surprised if Keane is in for our job. But otherwise I agree it’s a pretty solid shortlist. Flitcroft is clearly the least favoured, but even then it’s not like his record is hopeless. It doesn’t look good that he was sacked by Mansfield, obviously, but essentially it was for delivering the equivalent of what McCann achieved here.

I’d much rather have Moore though. Or Appleton.

I said on another thread it’s a testament to the club.

I included Keane because someone told me he had applied a while ago through after getting suggested from Mcsheffrey. I dismissed it at first but then he has been in la manga with the squad this week which adds weight to that story.

McSheffrey's a youth coach for the club. That'll explain why he's on La Manga.


He’s the under 18s coach but has stepped in to help John Schofield while we have no manger

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #87 on July 06, 2019, 09:44:28 pm by Dare to dream! »
Appleton now 2nd fav ahead of Moore

Jonathan

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« Reply #88 on July 06, 2019, 09:50:49 pm by Jonathan »
Appleton now 2nd fav ahead of Moore

I think all three will be interviewed Monday. Hard to read too much into the betting until after then.   

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #89 on July 06, 2019, 09:52:03 pm by the vicar »
If you had a chat with my Mansfield supporting friends, Jon, you may want to take a different view on Flitcroft.
I have already stated that to them

 

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