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Retdon1

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #90 on July 06, 2019, 09:52:22 pm by Retdon1 »
Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
 
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer



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Dare to dream!

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #91 on July 06, 2019, 09:54:36 pm by Dare to dream! »
Appleton now 2nd fav ahead of Moore

I think all three will be interviewed Monday. Hard to read too much into the betting until after then.   

Agreed.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #92 on July 06, 2019, 09:57:24 pm by drfchound »
Appleton odds dropping nicely.

My guess the shortlist is:

Moore
Flitcroft
Appleton
Keane

Pretty solid.







 Can there even be a shortlist yet.
Interviews commence on Monday.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2019, 08:29:23 am by drfchound »

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #93 on July 06, 2019, 10:06:31 pm by since-1969 »
Who says that’s the list .

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #94 on July 06, 2019, 10:24:16 pm by DonnyOsmond »
I'm praying for Appleton.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #95 on July 06, 2019, 10:24:39 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Sounds like those three; moore, Flitcroft, Appleton and maybe one other will be getting an interview. Personally the attraction to hire Moore will be obvious given most of us fans seem to want him but imo Appleton may be the smarter choice. Did ok as a young manager and has gone away to coach at a good level for a while so will be fresh. He'll have decent contacts too from time managing at our level and coaching in the prem.

Flitcroft seems unpopular but he's used to managing at this level and at managing at the right end of the table. His time at mansfield and bury will go against him but people have bad spells.   

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #96 on July 06, 2019, 10:29:57 pm by Dare to dream! »
I'm praying for Appleton.

He would be a very good appointment.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #97 on July 06, 2019, 10:40:50 pm by Retdon1 »
I'm praying for Appleton.

He would be a very good appointment.

Idd rather have Appelton too. Done a decent job at Oxford, been an assistant at a good level in the prem and his sides always played good football.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #98 on July 06, 2019, 11:40:21 pm by DonnyOsmond »
I'm praying for Appleton.

He would be a very good appointment.

Idd rather have Appelton too. Done a decent job at Oxford, been an assistant at a good level in the prem and his sides always played good football.

Decent record with young players too, which Moore has yet no experience of.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #99 on July 07, 2019, 12:20:07 am by tyke1962 »
We've had Flitcroft as manager and he did a remarkable job keeping us in the championship when we were absolutely dead and buried at xmas 2012 .

A very impressive motivater who rinsed above their level performances out of a very poor group of players for 22 games .

That is where Flitcroft's skill lies , unfortunately for him as a good as a bloke he is it tends to have a smallish shelf life .

He couldn't get the players up the next season and we were awful , absolutely terrible and he had no answers tactically , we were eventually relegated .

Very limited guy , however if you are staring relegation in the face with 10 games to go you'd do alot worse than hire David .

A poor man's Sam Allardyce and most defiantly not someone you'd hire with a longish term vision .

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #100 on July 07, 2019, 12:40:30 am by RoversAlias »
Seems three candidates are well clear in the betting now, and Flitcroft has drifted to Evens but is still favourite.

Flitcroft, Moore and Appleton all seem safe bets to be getting interviews. Perhaps the fourth candidate isn't even on the betting odds, and the only person I can find who has had even a tenuous link is Emma Hayes. Although I see she is now one of the many, many outsiders at 40/1 looking at it again.

Appleton's propensity for leaving for greener pastures worries me a bit, but he has a good record as a manager. Flitcroft doesn't appeal to me, and Moore does as I feel worries over his playing style can be worked on, plus he'd be a feel-good appointment at a time where there is a lot of apprehension in the fanbase.

Unless a surprise fourth candidate springs up in the next 3 days, I'd be backing Moore for the job personally.

Interestingly also, and I'm not sure anyone has mentioned this yet, Appleton and Moore appear to be friends. They were team mates at West Brom for two years and Appleton actually brought Moore in to his coaching staff when in charge of Blackburn. Be interesting if they are going against each other for this job!
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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #101 on July 07, 2019, 01:06:24 am by ferribyrover »
Just met a chap on the tube after a Wembley concert, a mate of Flitcroft, and he told me nothing of relevance. Either doesn’t know or is a good mate.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #102 on July 07, 2019, 08:33:43 am by Padge_DRFC »
I need it to be Appleton had 10 on him at 14/1

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #103 on July 07, 2019, 09:44:31 am by IDM »
Who is choosing our new manager, the bookies or our board.??

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« Reply #104 on July 07, 2019, 09:52:04 am by IDM »
Are these names bookies’ favourites as a result of reaction to social media etc rather than any real knowledge.?

The only one with an indication of being shortlisted is Moore, and even that isn’t much more than speculation in the DFP.

The bookies had Evans quite high up but he hasn’t applied, so that makes me doubt their sources.

Of course, due to the background of those men and their availability, they may by default be contenders but unless there have been leaks, surely this is all mostly conjecture.?

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #105 on July 07, 2019, 11:21:03 am by Lifelong supporter »
I'm praying for Appleton.

He would be a very good appointment.

Idd rather have Appelton too. Done a decent job at Oxford, been an assistant at a good level in the prem and his sides always played good football.

Decent record with young players too, which Moore has yet no experience of.

Darren Moore actually started out as youth coach at West Brom and then worked with the Under 21s before taking on a role to improve young players technically and tactically.
So I think he does have some experience with young players.
The trouble with Appleton, as someone else said, he doesn't stick around long if he gets the chance to move higher up.
He was only at Blackpool for 12 games - of which he only won two - before he resigned to move to Blackburn.
Then he got the sack there for poor results.
Okay, he did do well at Oxford and got them promoted but as soon as he got chance to be an assistant at Leicester he was off again.
 

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #106 on July 07, 2019, 11:26:36 am by GazLaz »
Are these names bookies’ favourites as a result of reaction to social media etc rather than any real knowledge.?

The only one with an indication of being shortlisted is Moore, and even that isn’t much more than speculation in the DFP.

The bookies had Evans quite high up but he hasn’t applied, so that makes me doubt their sources.

Of course, due to the background of those men and their availability, they may by default be contenders but unless there have been leaks, surely this is all mostly conjecture.?

It’s not a coincidence that the deadline for formulating the shortlist passes and three names get well bet with the bookies. To many people know the names on the interview list for there not to be gambles.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #107 on July 07, 2019, 11:41:23 am by Jonathan »
It shows how volatile the market is that Flitcroft was as short as 1/6 in the last day or so, and he’s back to odds against again now. I think after close of business hours tomorrow the big shifts in the odds will start to feel more meaningful.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #108 on July 07, 2019, 11:42:52 am by the vicar »
[quote author totally agreeIDMor=IDM link=topic=272976.msg877962#msg877962 date=1562489071]
Who is choosing our new manager, the bookies or our board.??
[/quote]I totally agree IDM let the board do there jobs

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #109 on July 07, 2019, 10:35:26 pm by Dare to dream! »
Dave Flitcroft shortening again is really worrying.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #110 on July 07, 2019, 10:40:06 pm by IDM »
Why.?

The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #111 on July 07, 2019, 10:45:37 pm by Dare to dream! »
Why.?

The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??

99.99% of donny fans don’t want him so who is betting on him? Someone who knows something. Interviews could just be a formality.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #112 on July 07, 2019, 10:56:13 pm by Move DRFC »
Why.?

The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??

99.99% of donny fans don’t want him so who is betting on him? Someone who knows something. Interviews could just be a formality.

Flitcroft gone from 6/5 to 4/7. Appleton drifted from 2/1 to 5/1...

Slightly worrying

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #113 on July 07, 2019, 11:47:31 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Why.?

The interviews haven’t taken place yet.??

99.99% of donny fans don’t want him so who is betting on him? Someone who knows something. Interviews could just be a formality.

Someone who thinks they know something more like. Bookies work on the basis of expecting 18-22% of the total money bet on something to be winning bets. That means they expect 78-82% of the total money bet to be losing bets. That's the basis on which they alter their odds when new money is bet with them. Shouldn't that tell you something?
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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #114 on July 08, 2019, 03:10:29 pm by elmsallrover »
Think if it's all down to the interviews then flitcroft will walk it he seams more up beat when been interviewed on tv although he talks b*llocks

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #115 on July 08, 2019, 03:30:00 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
We know through previous reports that the interviewees need to be well prepared. Just turning up for a chat is not good enough. As S_M and Gavin alluded to, each candidates track records/achievements will be scrutinised and challenged where necessary. I'm sure they will need a clear plan of how they intend to move the club forward which again will be subject to scrutiny.

This is why the bookies odds are a nonsense as nobody can forsee what the outcome of the interviews will be.

I can't see anything getting out into the public arena until after a formal offer is made.

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #116 on July 08, 2019, 04:40:33 pm by since-1969 »
Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
 
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer
There are five so who and where are they in the betting .

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #117 on July 08, 2019, 06:47:59 pm by drfchound »
Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
 
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer
There are five so who and where are they in the betting .






Who are the other two then?

Retdon1

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #118 on July 08, 2019, 07:18:55 pm by Retdon1 »
Flitcroft 5/6
Appleton 2/1
Moore 3/1
 
It’s Looking like 1 of those 3 will be the new gaffer
There are five so who and where are they in the betting .






Who are the other two then?

According to sky sports, one is Antony Hudson

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Re: David Flitcroft 2-9 with skybet
« Reply #119 on July 08, 2019, 07:40:50 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
ok  let's see if we can move the odds

Mr Flitcroft

Q.1 can you explain how your team lost the last 3 matches of the season and didn't even win any of the last 5 including the play offs

Q2 how with a mega budget you finished below Bury who are buried in debt.

Q3 Can you handle local Derbies losing 1-0 at notts County away

Q4 You had the best defence in the league conceeding 41 goal in 46 games (Lincoln conceeded 43) would you please comment on your style of play

Q.5 Pre-season I must admit you beat more than one team from divisions above and things looked extremely promising what went wrong?

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