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Quote from: rtid88 on July 10, 2019, 12:04:49 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on July 10, 2019, 11:58:43 amHe's not my first choice aswell. Appleton is much better but I guess we'll see. Hopefully he's learnt from his time at West Brom. Appleton is clearly a good coach but for me lacks certain qualities as a manager which for me Moore has... West Brom fans told me Moore is tactically naïve. Brill.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on July 10, 2019, 11:58:43 amHe's not my first choice aswell. Appleton is much better but I guess we'll see. Hopefully he's learnt from his time at West Brom. Appleton is clearly a good coach but for me lacks certain qualities as a manager which for me Moore has...
He's not my first choice aswell. Appleton is much better but I guess we'll see. Hopefully he's learnt from his time at West Brom.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on July 10, 2019, 12:31:03 pmQuote from: rtid88 on July 10, 2019, 12:04:49 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on July 10, 2019, 11:58:43 amHe's not my first choice aswell. Appleton is much better but I guess we'll see. Hopefully he's learnt from his time at West Brom. Appleton is clearly a good coach but for me lacks certain qualities as a manager which for me Moore has... West Brom fans told me Moore is tactically naïve. Brill.A fan on footballforums.net told you he was made a few mistakes not that is tactically naive, every manager makes mistakes in games regardless of their qualities.
If you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken.
Quote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. Explain then how Steve Evans was a big (pun intended) bookies favourite before the interviews, even though he’s publically denied any interest, which was confirmed on here by SM as being true..
Every club has fans that moan about their manager you even get people on the radio moaning about klopp and pep
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:33:36 amQuote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 11:31:08 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:26:15 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:24:26 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:01:57 amQuote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..When the odds for each candidate are going in and out like the f**king hokey-cokey, hoe does that reflect the bookies being in the know.??Simple. It doesn't. They don't need to be 'in the know' to make money out of people who think they are.I agree to some extent but they were certainly in the know regarding McCann to Hull. There wasn’t even a whisper and he was odds onIf somebody lumps a large bet on it it's more than whisper as far as the bookies are concerned, the odds are going to alter whether the bet turns out to be a winning one or not.I know, but what I mean is only the people who know McCann or work for hull would’ve placed that bet, so by default those bets were by only people in the know.
Quote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 11:31:08 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:26:15 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:24:26 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:01:57 amQuote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..When the odds for each candidate are going in and out like the f**king hokey-cokey, hoe does that reflect the bookies being in the know.??Simple. It doesn't. They don't need to be 'in the know' to make money out of people who think they are.I agree to some extent but they were certainly in the know regarding McCann to Hull. There wasn’t even a whisper and he was odds onIf somebody lumps a large bet on it it's more than whisper as far as the bookies are concerned, the odds are going to alter whether the bet turns out to be a winning one or not.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:26:15 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:24:26 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:01:57 amQuote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..When the odds for each candidate are going in and out like the f**king hokey-cokey, hoe does that reflect the bookies being in the know.??Simple. It doesn't. They don't need to be 'in the know' to make money out of people who think they are.I agree to some extent but they were certainly in the know regarding McCann to Hull. There wasn’t even a whisper and he was odds on
Quote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:24:26 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:01:57 amQuote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..When the odds for each candidate are going in and out like the f**king hokey-cokey, hoe does that reflect the bookies being in the know.??Simple. It doesn't. They don't need to be 'in the know' to make money out of people who think they are.
Quote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:01:57 amQuote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..When the odds for each candidate are going in and out like the f**king hokey-cokey, hoe does that reflect the bookies being in the know.??
Quote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..
Quote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 11:35:24 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:33:36 amQuote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 11:31:08 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:26:15 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:24:26 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:01:57 amQuote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..When the odds for each candidate are going in and out like the f**king hokey-cokey, hoe does that reflect the bookies being in the know.??Simple. It doesn't. They don't need to be 'in the know' to make money out of people who think they are.I agree to some extent but they were certainly in the know regarding McCann to Hull. There wasn’t even a whisper and he was odds onIf somebody lumps a large bet on it it's more than whisper as far as the bookies are concerned, the odds are going to alter whether the bet turns out to be a winning one or not.I know, but what I mean is only the people who know McCann or work for hull would’ve placed that bet, so by default those bets were by only people in the know. False logic. Approx 80% of bets (in money) are losing bets. There's plenty of idiots out there.
Exactly But McCann was 8/13 at the bookies without him being mentioned anywhere. So someone in the know put a bet on or the boooes found out themselves It wasn’t a short price just because a load of chancers had randomly backed him
Quote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 02:49:44 pmExactly But McCann was 8/13 at the bookies without him being mentioned anywhere. So someone in the know put a bet on or the boooes found out themselves It wasn’t a short price just because a load of chancers had randomly backed himMccann wasn't even in the market to bet on, then within an hour he was odds on. It was clear Sky Bet found out what was happening and he was a dead cert for the job.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 02:39:24 pmQuote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 11:35:24 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:33:36 amQuote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 11:31:08 amQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2019, 11:26:15 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:24:26 amQuote from: IDM on July 10, 2019, 11:01:57 amQuote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 10:46:53 amIf you think the bookies odds are solely based on money being bet then you're seriously mistaken. I’m talking about the odds fluctuating..When the odds for each candidate are going in and out like the f**king hokey-cokey, hoe does that reflect the bookies being in the know.??Simple. It doesn't. They don't need to be 'in the know' to make money out of people who think they are.I agree to some extent but they were certainly in the know regarding McCann to Hull. There wasn’t even a whisper and he was odds onIf somebody lumps a large bet on it it's more than whisper as far as the bookies are concerned, the odds are going to alter whether the bet turns out to be a winning one or not.I know, but what I mean is only the people who know McCann or work for hull would’ve placed that bet, so by default those bets were by only people in the know. False logic. Approx 80% of bets (in money) are losing bets. There's plenty of idiots out there.You know nothing about how bookies make up their markets.Yes, money bet has a large part to play, but if you think these companies aren't clued up and don't have contacts passing them information, then you're very misguided.
Ok so the question about Evans’ earlier odds remains, when he hadn’t been interested in the job.Either the bookies made it up, or someone’s leak was incorrect..Either way it’s not an exact science is it.?
Quote from: redarmy82 on July 10, 2019, 02:51:57 pmQuote from: dickos1 on July 10, 2019, 02:49:44 pmExactly But McCann was 8/13 at the bookies without him being mentioned anywhere. So someone in the know put a bet on or the boooes found out themselves It wasn’t a short price just because a load of chancers had randomly backed himMccann wasn't even in the market to bet on, then within an hour he was odds on. It was clear Sky Bet found out what was happening and he was a dead cert for the job. McCann was 33/1 on original sky bet odds remember someone winning a brilliant sum of cash last year when he was appointed