The points from the Bolton game

[drfchound]

Next three league games are I think Rotherham and then away at top of table Ipswich, then Peterborough at home.

to be honest carnt see us getting a point 3 teams in good form

Arent we in good form as well though.
I wonder whether their fans think the same about us.

[deebee]

They will get away relatively unpublished and we won't get the 3 points and we will get beat on the away match, can't you just see it coming it is a flocking joke

are they writing a book or something.?

[besty]

I would hardly say Rotherham are in form

[drfchound]

Just us and four other teams in the division that are still unbeaten

[Pancho Regan]

This really is a farce.

It’s like ‘open season’ for any club lucky enough to be playing Bolton at the moment.
3 easy points and plus 5 on your goal difference.

Unless you’re Donny Rovers of course, because BWFC decided they didn’t want to come out to play that day.

I don’t just feel angry for us.
I feel p****d off for Rovers and all the other clubs who will play Bolton when they have re-grouped and bolstered their ranks.

You can bet your bottom dollar that our game will be rearranged towards the end of the season when Bolton will have a strong team and we will lose.

This season in League One is screwed already.

Over to you, EFL.

[Chris Black come back]

Three groups here - those that have filled their boots and are made up; those looking enviously as they still have to play them and probably won’t be able to fill their boots; and then us!

[dknward2]

Wonder if they will play Bradford in the cup on Tuesday after all same amount of time after the Saturday game well less really as the cup game is 7 o'clock kick off.

[PDX_Rover]

Wonder if they will play Bradford in the cup on Tuesday after all same amount of time after the Saturday game well less really as the cup game is 7 o'clock kick off.

Was wondering that as well.

[dickos1]

They’ll have half a dozen new players by Wednesday

[drfchound]

But will they select any of the young lads?

[Campsall rover]

Next three league games are I think Rotherham and then away at top of table Ipswich, then Peterborough at home.

to be honest carnt see us getting a point 3 teams in good form

Our forms rubbish isn’t it. Good job your not our manager elmsallrover. “ right boys give it your best shot but we haven’t a hope in hell because the team we are playing is in great form”  Brilliant.
You couldn’t get more depressing with your posts even if you were trying to.

[Campsall rover]

One question for the EFL. Who is running League 1 this season?
You or Bolton Wanderers.
 
You allowed Bolton to start the season because both they and yourselves were satisfied they could fulfil their fixtures which means playing Saturday/Tuesday as and when the fixtures fall.

If you give them a further points deduction it does not really punish them as they are as good as relegated. It would need something very special to survive. They knew that when they called off the match.
If you do not award the points to DRFC it is DRFC who are being punished.
You have to be strong on this or any club at any time can call off a game as and when they wish.
They can then turn round and say you can’t give our opponents the points because you didn’t award DRFC the points.
It would lead to total chaos and the integrity of the league would completely be compromised. There would be a future of anarchy.

We would much rather have played the match on the 20th Aug when it was supposed to be played and we are not looking for a give away 3 points just so we can have 3 points. There is a huge principle at stake.

It is a the fact that Bolton failed to fulfil their scheduled fixture by unilaterally cancelling the game, without asking yourselves or even having the common courtesy to contact DRFC

EFL you need to do the right thing or face a future of chaos.

[sedwardsdrfc]

just catching up on this and all the talk that it's the admin who called the game off not the club is nonsense and should be irrelevant to awarding us the points. You can just see the EFL eating that up and using it as the reason for replaying the game rather than following the process.

[Tarkovsky_Mikluzhkin]

I cant see the EFL giving a sh*t if DRFC are screwed over so probs wont get the 3 pts. However the EFL have been well and truly taken the p*ss out of by Bolton so the idea they'll give them -3 and a 25K fine is a bit naive on their part.
It might seem unlikely that Bolton could overcome the deductions to survive but the next pts deduction the EFL gives them could make it impossible. As for us Footballwise we were lucky to be playing them when they were getting beat 5-0 every game so the fact that was taken away is frustrating but really we could have been down to play them in December anyway so the compensation for us will be financial I would have thought.
Of course the club is right to go for the 3 pts due to forfeit and us supporters are right to email the  EFL about our concerns but the likelihood is that will result in a greater amount of cash for us and a harsher punishment for Bolton rather than DRFC getting +3 pts, +5 GD and a Hat trick for Copps on the goal scorer stats.

[roversontheup]

I still think if we are made to play the game then Bolton should only be able to select from those players available on the date we should originally have played them. So non of the new signings should be able to play.

[drfchound]

just catching up on this and all the talk that it's the admin who called the game off not the club is nonsense and should be irrelevant to awarding us the points. You can just see the EFL eating that up and using it as the reason for replaying the game rather than following the process.

The administrator is in effect, the club.
They run everything until the club can prove they can stand alone.
So the excuse that you mention can’t be used.

[idler]

Had they been playing Man Unt in the Caraboa Cup that night they would have played any semi-cripple they could find to make up the numbers.
Parkinson tried to get both the Tranmere and Rovers game postponed before the administrator pulled this stunt.
I'm past caring about being awarded 3 points but why can't they just be honest about what they have done and why?

[Colin C No.3]

One question for the EFL. Who is running League 1 this season?
You or Bolton Wanderers.
 
You allowed Bolton to start the season because both they and yourselves were satisfied they could fulfil their fixtures which means playing Saturday/Tuesday as and when the fixtures fall.

If you give them a further points deduction it does not really punish them as they are as good as relegated. It would need something very special to survive. They knew that when they called off the match.
If you do not award the points to DRFC it is DRFC who are being punished.
You have to be strong on this or any club at any time can call off a game as and when they wish.
They can then turn round and say you can’t give our opponents the points because you didn’t award DRFC the points.
It would lead to total chaos and the integrity of the league would completely be compromised. There would be a future of anarchy.

We would much rather have played the match on the 20th Aug when it was supposed to be played and we are not looking for a give away 3 points just so we can have 3 points. There is a huge principle at stake.

It is a the fact that Bolton failed to fulfil their scheduled fixture by unilaterally cancelling the game, without asking yourselves or even having the common courtesy to contact DRFC

EFL you need to do the right thing or face a future of chaos.

Very eloquently put but wasted energy on here, you’re preaching to the converted.

Vent your spleen on the EFL via letter or email where hopefully they will have been inundated by such comments from Donny supporters & supporters of other clubs.

They can’t ‘hear’ you on here. Go bang on their door...very LOUDLY!

[IDM]

All this extra gumf about us not getting a fair deal because of who we are, or the fixture schedule, or prejudiced views on how the EFL will react etc is all irrelevant..

Bolton forfeit the fixture, we should get the points regardless..

[drfcsteve]

This theory about us having to play then but they can only use the players they had at the time is still unfair on us, because they will be able to rest all of their "original" players ahead of the game presuming they've signed a load of other players by then.

[PDX_Rover]

If a game was postponed, don’t the two clubs have to agree a date to play within 10 days, which was Friday?

[IDM]

It wasn’t postponed though..

[Campsall rover]

I still think if we are made to play the game then Bolton should only be able to select from those players available on the date we should originally have played them. So non of the new signings should be able to play.

That definitely will not happen.

[Campsall rover]

One question for the EFL. Who is running League 1 this season?
You or Bolton Wanderers.
 
You allowed Bolton to start the season because both they and yourselves were satisfied they could fulfil their fixtures which means playing Saturday/Tuesday as and when the fixtures fall.

If you give them a further points deduction it does not really punish them as they are as good as relegated. It would need something very special to survive. They knew that when they called off the match.
If you do not award the points to DRFC it is DRFC who are being punished.
You have to be strong on this or any club at any time can call off a game as and when they wish.
They can then turn round and say you can’t give our opponents the points because you didn’t award DRFC the points.
It would lead to total chaos and the integrity of the league would completely be compromised. There would be a future of anarchy.

We would much rather have played the match on the 20th Aug when it was supposed to be played and we are not looking for a give away 3 points just so we can have 3 points. There is a huge principle at stake.

It is a the fact that Bolton failed to fulfil their scheduled fixture by unilaterally cancelling the game, without asking yourselves or even having the common courtesy to contact DRFC

EFL you need to do the right thing or face a future of chaos.

Very eloquently put but wasted energy on here, you’re preaching to the converted.

Vent your spleen on the EFL via letter or email where hopefully they will have been inundated by such comments from Donny supporters & supporters of other clubs.

They can’t ‘hear’ you on here. Go bang on their door...very LOUDLY!

The above post was sent to them.

[Campsall rover]

All this extra gumf about us not getting a fair deal because of who we are, or the fixture schedule, or prejudiced views on how the EFL will react etc is all irrelevant..

Bolton forfeit the fixture, we should get the points regardless..

Exactly IDM that’s the whole point. The game wasn’t postponed. Bolton simply said they are not playing it 30 hrs before kick off.
They forfeit the game. Therefore 3 points are given to the opposition. It is cut and dried.
If the EFL don’t follow the correct procedure then they are going to make a lot of trouble for themselves in the future.
What happens the next time a club refuses to play without permission?

Just to say once again i am not looking for a give away 3 points just because we would have probably won comfortably on 20th Aug.
Our original fixture could have been in Nov/Dec when they may well have a stronger team.
That is not the point, it is irrelevant.
I would much rather we play them and earn the points by winning. Also I have not been to their stadium yet & i was looking forward going there.

The point that the EFL need to get a grip with and respond to NOW, is that Bolton have not fulfilled their obligation to play a match on the due date.
No permission to postpone or communication given by the club to either themselves or their opposition.

The credibility of the league is at stake here.
It’s as simple as that.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The EFL maybe had an excuse being rather busy with the Bolton and Bury situations, but now they need to deal with this ASAP for the sake of the league so we know where we all stand.

It would be good to know if the club has had a response from the EFL or some sort of time frame for when it will be.

[Campsall rover]

Wonder if they will play Bradford in the cup on Tuesday after all same amount of time after the Saturday game well less really as the cup game is 7 o'clock kick off.

If they do then then Bolton are taking the P..S
Making it up as they wish. Who are running the league & Cups, Bolton or the governing bodies.
Let’s see if the EFL respond this week. If they don’t Legal action should be taken by DRFC and all the other clubs in League 1.
If this had happened to any other club they should have been awarded the 3 points just the same.

[PDX_Rover]

Well, I’ve had no response from the EFL, not even an automated one....

[PDX_Rover]

It wasn’t postponed though..

I know that. Which makes it all the more maddening. It’s like double jeopardy.

[ChrisBx]

It's being reported that the new owners of Bolton have just taken out 2x £20m loans repayable at 4% interest PA. Due to be repaid in 2022 and secured against the club's assets.

Sounds like madness to me.