Author Topic: Red card ruling (Read 4416 times)

graingrover · « on November 23, 2019, 07:15:55 pm by graingrover »

In the past, yellow cards picked up in the Premier League, football leagues, FA Cup or Carabao Cup would be added up together. ... However, the changes this season will see yellow cards only counting in the competition in which they are received. Red cards will continue to count across all competitions.
Does this mean that a three game suspension for a red card given in a EFL game can be patly ‘discounted’ by an FA Cup game .

« **on:** November 23, 2019, 07:15:55 pm »

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IDM · « **Reply #1 on** November 23, 2019, 07:20:42 pm by IDM »

How many games out.? 3?

Does it include the leasing trophy game vs Leicester U21? If so, he would only be suspended for one league fixture.

bpoolrover · « **Reply #2 on** November 23, 2019, 07:24:27 pm by bpoolrover »

Is there any possibility of the tranmere or Shrewsbury games being rearranged before Xmas?

redandwhitearmy · « **Reply #3 on** November 23, 2019, 07:56:13 pm by redandwhitearmy »

Quote from: bpoolrover on November 23, 2019, 07:24:27 pm

Is there any possibility of the tranmere or Shrewsbury games being rearranged before Xmas?

I very much doubt it.

donnievic · « **Reply #4 on** November 23, 2019, 07:58:11 pm by donnievic »

My understanding Anderson will miss fa cup,Leicester game and next league game

drfchound · « **Reply #5 on** November 23, 2019, 08:02:36 pm by drfchound »

Quote from: IDM on November 23, 2019, 07:20:42 pm

How many games out.? 3?

Does it include the leasing trophy game vs Leicester U21? If so, he would only be suspended for one league fixture.

Are the FLTrophy competition matches considered to be first team ones?

donnievic · « **Reply #6 on** November 23, 2019, 08:06:23 pm by donnievic »

scawsby steve · « **Reply #7 on** November 23, 2019, 08:07:16 pm by scawsby steve »

Quote from: drfchound on November 23, 2019, 08:02:36 pm

Quote from: IDM on November 23, 2019, 07:20:42 pm
How many games out.? 3?

Does it include the leasing trophy game vs Leicester U21? If so, he would only be suspended for one league fixture.

Are the FLTrophy competition matches considered to be first team ones?

Yes mate.

drfchound · « **Reply #8 on** November 23, 2019, 08:09:38 pm by drfchound »

Cheers.
I wasn’t sure.

adamtherover · « **Reply #9 on** November 23, 2019, 08:20:06 pm by adamtherover »

Quote from: donnievic on November 23, 2019, 07:58:11 pm

My understanding Anderson will miss fa cup,Leicester game and next league game

the leicester game is not classed as a first class fixture.. at least that is what's been said regarding counting up goals for strikers? Who knows....

Dagenham Rover · « **Reply #10 on** November 23, 2019, 10:04:58 pm by Dagenham Rover »

Feck it just cancel a few games till it suits us

Alan Southstand · « **Reply #11 on** November 23, 2019, 10:31:55 pm by Alan Southstand »

I thought it was 2 for a straight red, which became 3 if you appealed and failed?

5 on Tour · « **Reply #12 on** November 23, 2019, 10:34:06 pm by 5 on Tour »

So we’ve gone from lots of options at CB to being a bit limited - assuming Daniels injury isn’t a shake it off one. So we’ve got Wright and an unfit John? Or is Sheaf going to drop in as he’s played CB before? Either way it’s a massive loss.

Campsall rover · « **Reply #13 on** November 24, 2019, 12:12:49 am by Campsall rover »

Quote from: bpoolrover on November 23, 2019, 07:24:27 pm

Is there any possibility of the tranmere or Shrewsbury games being rearranged before Xmas?

Only date available is 17th Dec. The 10th will be allocated for a replay with Gillingham if we draw the game next week. The week before we play Leicester in the Leasing .com trophy.

RoversAlias · « **Reply #14 on** November 24, 2019, 12:27:13 pm by RoversAlias »

They changed this last season, I believe yellow cards are competition specific but red cards are not. So Anderson will miss our next three games in all competitions as far as I know.

scawsby steve · « **Reply #15 on** November 24, 2019, 01:37:05 pm by scawsby steve »

Quote from: Alan Southstand on November 23, 2019, 10:31:55 pm

I thought it was 2 for a straight red, which became 3 if you appealed and failed?

It's 3 for a straight red, 4 if you appeal and fail, and the appeal is considered unnecessary.

Metalmicky · « **Reply #16 on** November 24, 2019, 02:27:45 pm by Metalmicky »

At least Anderson was sent off whilst trying to defend - Ben Pringle was sent off for Gillingham yesterday for repeatedly swearing at the official - he will also miss the FA Cup tie...

donnievic · « **Reply #17 on** November 24, 2019, 04:14:24 pm by donnievic »

Quote from: scawsby steve on November 24, 2019, 01:37:05 pm

Quote from: Alan Southstand on November 23, 2019, 10:31:55 pm
I thought it was 2 for a straight red, which became 3 if you appealed and failed?

It's 3 for a straight red, 4 if you appeal and fail, and the appeal is considered unnecessary.

it does also depend what the straight red is for though aswell

ravenrover · « **Reply #18 on** November 24, 2019, 07:14:13 pm by ravenrover »

Marosi used the COcup to serve 1 match ban didn't he?

graingrover · « **Reply #19 on** November 24, 2019, 07:35:39 pm by graingrover »

3 match suspension is for violent conduct and Tom’s is considered to be that .

big fat yorkshire pudding

Violent? It wasnt he was going for the ball, bizarre if true.

Mustapha-Dump · « **Reply #21 on** November 24, 2019, 11:32:11 pm by Mustapha-Dump »

If it’s gone down as S1- serious foul play it’s a 3 match ban, 4 if appealed and lost.

scawsby steve · « **Reply #22 on** November 25, 2019, 05:30:39 pm by scawsby steve »

Quote from: Mustapha-Dump on November 24, 2019, 11:32:11 pm

If it’s gone down as S1- serious foul play it’s a 3 match ban, 4 if appealed and lost.

Not necessarily Mustapha. The appeal can be lost and still remain on 3, if the panel decide there was a justifiable reason to appeal, but not enough to overturn the original decision.

However, if the appeal is considered to be unwarranted, they'll increase the ban to 4 matches.

Metalmicky · « **Reply #23 on** November 26, 2019, 08:19:02 am by Metalmicky »

Think we can agree it was ~~probably~~ definitely a red card.....

Jillian Rushworth · « **Reply #24 on** November 26, 2019, 01:08:47 pm by Jillian Rushworth »

Where is the evidence of contact on this photo?

donnievic · « **Reply #25 on** November 26, 2019, 02:38:28 pm by donnievic »

Quote from: Jillian Rushworth on November 26, 2019, 01:08:47 pm

Where is the evidence of contact on this photo?

there doesn’t need to be contact,it’s classed as dangerous play even if you win the ball cleanly

Metalmicky · « **Reply #26 on** November 26, 2019, 04:20:07 pm by Metalmicky »

Quote from: Jillian Rushworth on November 26, 2019, 01:08:47 pm

Where is the evidence of contact on this photo?

There is one taken fractionally before...

Is that one OK for you...?

IDM · « **Reply #27 on** November 26, 2019, 05:02:18 pm by IDM »

I don’t think we have any grounds for complaints..

Alan Southstand · « **Reply #28 on** November 26, 2019, 05:54:11 pm by Alan Southstand »

Definitely being held by the Wycombe player, which would have had the effect of altering his centre of gravity.

Just saying.

DonnyBazR0ver · « **Reply #29 on** November 26, 2019, 07:01:03 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »

Not disputing the red, but there are mitigating circumstances as said above.

3 matches seen a bit harsh considering it would have been the same if he'd smacked someone in the gob! Violent conduct does not describe a mistimed lunge with no malice. Dangerous play. Yes.

About time they reviewed the punishments.

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