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Quote from: Not Now Kato on December 17, 2019, 08:49:56 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on December 17, 2019, 08:30:33 amSo, the EU referendum was undemocratic, but a second one would have been democratic? Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Where did I say anything about a second referendum in the above BB? Did you not understand what I wrote? I genuinely think you have a problem, and I genuinely think you need to seek help BB. Seriously.Oh, indeed I do have a problem NNK. I have a problem with exceedingly poor losers like you who come out with rubbish like the EU referendum wasn't democratic. I genuinely think you need help from one of your handful of lefty associates on here to brazenly rubber stamp your bullshit.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on December 17, 2019, 08:30:33 amSo, the EU referendum was undemocratic, but a second one would have been democratic? Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Where did I say anything about a second referendum in the above BB? Did you not understand what I wrote? I genuinely think you have a problem, and I genuinely think you need to seek help BB. Seriously.
So, the EU referendum was undemocratic, but a second one would have been democratic? Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear.Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
Why is it bb that you're the most likely one to escalate the conversation to be the first to post abuse, you want to provoke in whatever form you like but lets be honest here you can't take it can you
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on December 17, 2019, 07:55:56 am The 2016 EU referendum, which was one of the largest democratic exercises in the UK’s history. You do know that that referendum was undemocratic don't you BB? To the point where, had it not been advisory, it would have been declared null and void. That the government then went ahead and acted on it is unforgivable. We did have a fairly and correctly run democratic referendum though, and you must remember it - whether Doncaster, Barnsley and Rotherham etc should be part of One Yorkshire or of a newly formed Sheffield/South Yorkshire conglomerate. The result of that referendum, you do remember don't you, was over 80% for One Yorkshire. So what did the government do? They ignored the result because it wasn't what they wanted. And you talk about democracy?
The 2016 EU referendum, which was one of the largest democratic exercises in the UK’s history.
Quote from: Not Now Kato on December 17, 2019, 08:24:01 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on December 17, 2019, 07:55:56 am The 2016 EU referendum, which was one of the largest democratic exercises in the UK’s history. You do know that that referendum was undemocratic don't you BB? To the point where, had it not been advisory, it would have been declared null and void. That the government then went ahead and acted on it is unforgivable. We did have a fairly and correctly run democratic referendum though, and you must remember it - whether Doncaster, Barnsley and Rotherham etc should be part of One Yorkshire or of a newly formed Sheffield/South Yorkshire conglomerate. The result of that referendum, you do remember don't you, was over 80% for One Yorkshire. So what did the government do? They ignored the result because it wasn't what they wanted. And you talk about democracy?What the hell is wrong with you? Your party has just been f*cking SLAUGHTERED because of people like YOU, with all the insulting and sneering, whining and moaning, and stamping your feet like spoiled children, instead of acting like a man and being gracious in defeat.If people like you carry on over the next 4 years the way you've acted over the last 3 years, your party will get tonked again in 2024, that's for sure.All the Labour MPs that have been on the news broadcasts over the last few days have admitted they need to stop blaming everyone else but themselves, and show some humility in defeat and move on.
Quote from: SydneyRover on December 17, 2019, 09:41:11 amWhy is it bb that you're the most likely one to escalate the conversation to be the first to post abuse, you want to provoke in whatever form you like but lets be honest here you can't take it can you wrong again houndrtid88 called BB a bellend in one of the first posts on this thread.Also, you accusing people of being abusive is a bit rich.You called BB a c**t recently.The post has now been removed so I assume you got a warning about that.
Quote from: drfchound on December 17, 2019, 10:34:43 amQuote from: SydneyRover on December 17, 2019, 09:41:11 amWhy is it bb that you're the most likely one to escalate the conversation to be the first to post abuse, you want to provoke in whatever form you like but lets be honest here you can't take it can you wrong again houndrtid88 called BB a bellend in one of the first posts on this thread.Also, you accusing people of being abusive is a bit rich.You called BB a c**t recently.The post has now been removed so I assume you got a warning about that.
DO, how would a Labour supporter who wanted to leave the EU have voted last week?Bearing in mind the Labour position of no commitment to Brexit.
Hound.A Labour supporter who wanted us to leave the EU could have voted Labour, knowing that there would have been a Ref2 in which they could have voted for the specific "Leave" that would have been on that ballot.I've still not heard a single rational argument as to why that would have been an undemocratic outcome.
Hound.As I've said a hundred times, the problem with the 2016 vote is that "Leave" wasn't a single, defined thing. It was an umbrella term covering an almost infinite range of things. That's why it is idiotic to take the result as the final word. It was a binary choice on a non-binary question.But that issue is done now. The decision has been made. So it's time for us all to stop looking back and start looking forward. In particular, it's time for those who have insisted we should leave to accept that they have won, and that they now own the consequences of that victory.
BBOf course you've won following last week's result. You wanted Brexit. You've got Brexit.Congratulations. You won.Now, be a grown up and own the consequences.